please remove campaign transfer

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

I play dominon on Wabbajack.

All these horrible Auriel's Bow and Bloodthorn players came to our campaign because instead of fixing their campaign they gave up and left and now my campaign is always full and filed with trolls" it's pretty obvious why they left instead of fighting"

Like honestly so many MMO are afraid of letting people decision matter in the long run and soon Wabbajack will be like Auriel's bow and Bloodthorn and all these people will leave after they have damaged it.

MatosQc

I totaly agree with that, and Zenimax should force players to be in the same server ... reduce the ammount of servers to 2-3 maximum ! Try to find a way to penalise PVE player that don t go in PVP helping people ! THE WHOLE GAME is toward Defending our Race and our Alliance, am I right ? Force player to give them Taste to go PVP with others. or you don t go in PVP so you don t have the BUFF in PVE, !!!!

thelg

Just increase AP cost about x50 and add cost to guesting(also disable all bonus when guesting) and rebuff AP gained by 50%

Mends_from_Shadows

It should be 1,000,000 AP to transfer campaigns. Make it an actual penalty. Not 15k AP that anyone can wipe their ass with. It's made campaigns a bad joke that people can just leave them for a winning campaign.

Gisgo

Campaign transfer wouldnt be such a big game breaker if we didnt have too many campaigns.
If they merge the campaigns to three, the transfer can stay.

thelg

If they merge it to 3 you and leave transfers in then each of the campaigns will turn into AD campaign, DC campaign etc. number of campaigns is not the issue(maybe they could remove one or two). Being able to jump between them daily is

Gisgo

thelg wrote: »

If they merge it to 3 you and leave transfers in then each of the campaigns will turn into AD campaign, DC campaign etc. number of campaigns is not the issue(maybe they could remove one or two). Being able to jump between them daily is

Theres a cap of 600 or something players for each faction if we only had three campaigns they would all be full pop and a lot more balanced than they are now.

Lord_Draevan

ZOS said they're going to re-instate the 200k AP cost for campaign switching, but they haven't said when.
Or they make it that you can only change home/guest every 1 or 2 weeks.

joshisanonymous

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

ZOS said they're going to re-instate the 200k AP cost for campaign switching, but they haven't said when.
Or they make it that you can only change home/guest every 1 or 2 weeks.

Yes, this. They should just do it sooner than later. I wouldn't be against a stricter limit, like only transfering at the end of a campaign, but I would be against allowing no transfers at all.

The idea was to initially have cheap transfers to allow people to easily figure out which campaign they want to play on. I think these is really having the opposite effect, though. As soon as people find a campaign they like, hordes of other people start showing up from the campaigns all those people left because those campaigns are now desolate. Hence, people leave the new campaign for another, and the cycle repeats. You can't figure out what campaign you like because the playerbase on the campaigns changes drastically all the time. It's pretty ridiculous.

Infraction

I don't mind primetime populations it's the off hours ones that fluctuate wildly and cause the swings for faction dominance. You non US prime time people need to quit avoiding each other and go to the same campaign. We've seen Wabbajack have high off hours populations for each realm but never at the same time.

frwinters_ESO

Honestly...perhaps this has nothing to do with this topic but....i feel the ESO community is the most trollish community I have ever been a part of. There I said it. Not the OP or anything just a general observation as a whole.

Why is there so much hate people? Cant we all just get along1

Bloodvax

Funny how people are complaining that new competition came to their server once their faction stampeded over the other alliances. Boo hoo we have more people to fight and aren't winning anymore. Hard to sympathize.

thelg

its more of hey we are winning! uh oh who are all these people who just showed up on our side? and why did all of our opponents disappear?

ArcanusMagus

I would love to see this transfer culture go. The guesting destabilizes maps and detracts from the sense of accomplishment that goes with actually gaining territory, in my opinion. I play as an underdog faction (EP) on NA Chrysamere. I have been stomped by guesting and I have been handed the map by guesting. Neither of which was particularly entertaining.

What I would suggest:
1) give one week's notice via launcher and ingame mail (so there's no excuse to not know), then jack up the transfer price to at least 200k, if not much higher.

2) publish a user-friendly breakdown of the population of each campaign on the ingame campaign screen describing, in general terms, average population for each faction, average number of keeps held, and average time for a keep in the Imperial ring to be held (so you have an idea of what you're getting into before you commit to transfer)

3)since we're over halfway through a campaign with alot of guesting going on, I'd say finish this current 90-day cycle so people get used to the game and figure out what kind of pvp (high/low pop, small/zerg, etc) they like - basically so we have a good data set. Frankly, this first one's a wash anyway. In the future, I'd like to see some smaller-time-frame options without being shoe-horned into a template

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

massofgrenierb16_ESO wrote: »

I totaly agree with that, and Zenimax should force players to be in the same server ... reduce the ammount of servers to 2-3 maximum ! Try to find a way to penalise PVE player that don t go in PVP helping people ! THE WHOLE GAME is toward Defending our Race and our Alliance, am I right ? Force player to give them Taste to go PVP with others. or you don t go in PVP so you don t have the BUFF in PVE, !!!!

They can't servers are capped at 2000 players and the estimated sales of ESO is around 1.3 million you can see why having 3 campaigns would be bad.

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

Bloodvax wrote: »

Funny how people are complaining that new competition came to their server once their faction stampeded over the other alliances. Boo hoo we have more people to fight and aren't winning anymore. Hard to sympathize.

My faction was AD we where always losing and still losing? ???

dsalter

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Funny how people are complaining that new competition came to their server once their faction stampeded over the other alliances. Boo hoo we have more people to fight and aren't winning anymore. Hard to sympathize.

My faction was AD we where always losing and still losing? ???

someone doesnt play on Auriels bow.

Igolbug

Bloodvax wrote: »

Funny how people are complaining that new competition came to their server once their faction stampeded over the other alliances. Boo hoo we have more people to fight and aren't winning anymore. Hard to sympathize.

I think he is saying the opposite actually.

He is having the same problem I am, a longass queuetime during primetime on Wabbajack because all the bad bandwagoners have come over and taking up spots.

Ghenra

Campaign transfer need to be fixed as soon as possible.

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

dsalter wrote: »

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

Funny how people are complaining that new competition came to their server once their faction stampeded over the other alliances. Boo hoo we have more people to fight and aren't winning anymore. Hard to sympathize.

My faction was AD we where always losing and still losing? ???

someone doesnt play on Auriels bow.

That's the point I'm Wabbajack we have always been losing AD on Wabbajack.


My problem is all of you guys just left your campaign instead of trying to fix them.

Gwarok

Thread Title:

Please Remove Campaign Transfers

PERIOD!

There is a serious campaign "bouncing" exploitation occurring at the moment on multiple battlefields, I won't go into details as to what and/or how the exploitation occurs and works here on this thread, but WILL say that Hopesfire is one of the 3-4 campaigns that is involved. And the Dev's should be ashamed of themselves saying yesterday afternoon that it's perfectly OK.

Play what ever race your heart desires in any of the three factions, BUT...

ONE Account, One Faction, One Campaign until it resets BEFORE you can choose another Campaign, PERIOD!!!

You reap what you sow.

(edit) also... The time till the campaigns reset needs to be drastically REDUCED.

Ghenra

I can't be more agree with you. If this game is a RvR game, each account should be linked to only one faction.

fyendiarb16_ESO

I am bouncing to another campaign each day with my AD character filled with siege weapons after I left Ariel's Bow because there was nothing to do. All EP and DC players had left and AD is so in control there that all you can do is gank at the entrance a bit. Not my kind of fun so I left it.

The problem is though that this is not my only character. I play on Wabba with my DC character. So far that is the only campaign with any action on it nearly 24/7. I keep guesting from one campaign to the next with my AD character, but can't join the only campaign with any action on it!

So what do people have to do that have a character in each faction if there is only one campaign active and all the rest are ghost campaigns?

The current system is broken. AD players leaving other campaigns to join Wabba do this mainly because if is the only campaign with real action on it outside some preplanned guild pve type zerging within a few hours and then leave the campaign again.

So tell me, where can AD go to other than Wabba to find some action and where can they go if Wabba is blocked to them?

Haven't done much more than feeding the horses on my AD character for a week or more now and the kill 20 daily is still only at 7!

Broken, the whole system is broken for those that play more than one faction.

Brugun

I like that when population goes down at night, people can guest to a single server and actually have a decently populated campaign. If everyone was locked in their own, it'd be way too empty during off hours for each campaign.

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

fyendiarb16_ESO wrote: »

I am bouncing to another campaign each day with my AD character filled with siege weapons after I left Ariel's Bow because there was nothing to do. All EP and DC players had left and AD is so in control there that all you can do is gank at the entrance a bit. Not my kind of fun so I left it.

The problem is though that this is not my only character. I play on Wabba with my DC character. So far that is the only campaign with any action on it nearly 24/7. I keep guesting from one campaign to the next with my AD character, but can't join the only campaign with any action on it!

So what do people have to do that have a character in each faction if there is only one campaign active and all the rest are ghost campaigns?

The current system is broken. AD players leaving other campaigns to join Wabba do this mainly because if is the only campaign with real action on it outside some preplanned guild pve type zerging within a few hours and then leave the campaign again.

So tell me, where can AD go to other than Wabba to find some action and where can they go if Wabba is blocked to them?

Haven't done much more than feeding the horses on my AD character for a week or more now and the kill 20 daily is still only at 7!

Broken, the whole system is broken for those that play more than one faction.

If transfers didn't exist all your covenant and pact opponents wouldn't have the option to run but instead get more organized and fight back.

limeli8

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

If transfers didn't exist all your covenant and pact opponents wouldn't have the option to run but instead get more organized and fight back.

Or they would go to forums and whine about pvp instead of participating in it cause it seems popular to do that these days right? I mean look at this thread. "I used to pwn nubs all day here and be awesome, but then these new guys showed up and hurt my e-peen plz fix!"

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

limeli8 wrote: »

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

If transfers didn't exist all your covenant and pact opponents wouldn't have the option to run but instead get more organized and fight back.

Or they would go to forums and whine about pvp instead of participating in it cause it seems popular to do that these days right? I mean look at this thread. "I used to pwn nubs all day here and be awesome, but then these new guys showed up and hurt my e-peen plz fix!"

Nah they would keep fighting they were fine the first 3 weeks till AD got ahead and just left instead of fighting like they should.

I am in AD in Wabbajack we were always losing

My complaint is I joined the not so full campaign but now it is full because all these campaign hoppers decide to hop campaigns when the kitchen gets hot instead of keep cooking

Eylith

Even if you're loosing, keep people from wabbajack won't make your people plays better. I mean, I was on wabbajack yesterday in guest to take my Cyrodill shards, and I did a lot of roaming close to AD gates. I did not encounter any difficulties, even if I was alone vs the others. No offence.

Shaun98ca2

We have too many campaigns currently. We need LESS campaigns and only when a campaign is full should another 1 be added to the list. As for campaign swapping yes this needs to be nothing short of fully eliminated. Maybe 1 campaign transfer per campaign period and simply just turn off guesting all together.

There probably needs to be more incentives to participate in PVP as well....even though there some incentives IE skill points, PVE content.

Igolbug

They need to remove the buffs you get frpm your home server if you are guesting. This will result in people actually attempting to fix their own server instead of just setting home server to their dominate one and guesting wherever they feel like it with all these extra buffs.

edit: spelling