Why do so many people want to speed up leveling, i want to slow it down, especially mob xp

mmark516

I am basically 4-5 lvls ahead of the content for questing at all times. I level to fast, if mobs provided less xp this might not happen as quickly while at the same time allowing people to grind mobs if they really want to. Basically i in general try to do quests from lowest to highest, i start with exploring the zone and finding shards first killing whatever along the way and gathering every resource i can find. Right now im lvl 45 with lots of reapers march to go. Most group dungeons i was stuck doing at way to high level just to get the skill point.

I see a lot of people complaining about slow leveling, and then notice a lot of them are generally above level 40, this makes no sense. This is an MMO that will hopefully be good for years and you are almost capped. We should be complaining that we have people that are level capped at all, that's what makes no sense.

Argurios

Because mate, there are many *** in MMO's these days, who just want to speed click through all the quests and look for grinding spots to level as fast as they can. When they get to max level then they whine they have nothing to do.

Then they will say that the content is boring and unchallenging, or try and talk about how awesome they are.

Its an MMO RPG, half the game is based around the story and the quests, some people just can't see the wood for the trees. They play a game like this but don't want to level or quest. Its ***.

Though i admit, the VR levelling process is too excessive in my opinion, i throughly enjoyed and took my time with my 1-50. They really should have thought of a better way to level VR ranks, rather than making it a horrendous grind while they bought themselves time to release Craglorn. I joined Daggerfall Covenant to be be Daggerfall Covenant, not to do all the other faction quests too. It has totally eliminated any desire i had to make an alt.

I am VR10 now though and waiting to enjoy Craglorn. Its worth it in the end its just hardwork getting there. I think people have forgotten what hard work is in MMO's these days though.

HashxBrowns

I don't mind when it takes long in a MMO to level. But my problem is with Vet ranks.. they're poorly done. You cannot level through dungeons. you only get good xp from doing the quest once. Most of your time you will be questing. Now i loved doing this from 1-50 but it is getting painfully boring going through vet ranks. I would pvp but you hardly get any xp from that also. As of now I un sub to this game because of it. I will come back once they figure out how to balance out leveling in vet ranks better. Also if they're complaining how long it takes to level in the 40 lol wait till they hit vet ranks. most are going to start quitting!

Ulvich

Wit till you get to VR content. You want slow leveling? You got it.

xDonMega

Slow down leveling?

I think you need to schedule an appointment with a mental health professional.

Kendaric

Level 1-50 leveling could be slowed down a bit, I agree that it's too fast. The time it takes to go through the VR zones seems to be about right, however the VR zones simply aren't fun to play through. For now I'll just level a number of alts to 50 until they either overhaul the VR zones or add alternate ways to gain VR.

poochie

I just dont't either understand or don't get why there are like 3 wolves, I kill one I get 2k exp I kill 2nd one I get like 400 exp and kill last one and get like 45 exp. Why the hell is it set up that way. I really don't get why I can kill mobs with stealth+focused aim in 1 shot. Some mobs 2 focused aims and well some mobs that take a lot more than that.

ShADoW0s

Most people bought this game for the PvP, not for the single player of PvE content. as such most people, as myself want to be max level when PvPing, thats why people are always trying to find quick ways of leveling.

Additional info, while leveling it extremely fun, I explored the whole map, and made sure I cleared the whole map before moving on. Vet ranks just seem as a filler, nothing you do matter, example: you help the other fractions defeat your home fraction in their quests lol, what the point of that is "fun"?, it does not even make sense, it makes you a traitor.

Apricot

Argurios wrote: »

I am VR10 now though and waiting to enjoy Craglorn. Its worth it in the end its just hardwork getting there. I think people have forgotten what hard work is in MMO's these days though.

Except it's not hard work. There's a difference between something being hard and something being tedious. If leveling through the vet ranks were at all fun the time wouldn't be an issue. But it's not fun. It's mind-numbingly tedious. It's the unsub and never look back kind of tedious.

Blackwolfe5

I find the leveling speed in PvE to be fine (that is, quests are normally slightly lower/same/higher in level than me). However, I would love to be able to turn off regular xp in Cyrodiil. I hate outlevelling quests due to having pvped!

This being with my two lvl 21 chars. Note: I do not grind mobs for xp.

Nightgard

During leveling you can't take the time to gather some Leather without taking half a level during each farming session.
Result is I did my last faction zone (before coldharbour) with 80% of the quests grey...

Catflinger

ShADoW0s wrote: »

Most people bought this game for the PvP,

Citation needed.

Melian

I think leveling is fine. I'm glad it's slower than that other game I used to play; makes it seem like more of an epic journey.

I didn't, however, buy this game for the pvp. I wish the pvp'ers could just level in Cyrodil so I wouldn't have to deal with their whining and requests that would spoil the pve for those of us who do enjoy it.

Nox_Aeterna

hehehehe , OP , if you think are even near the lvl cap at 40 , then you really need to check how things work around here :P.

GreySix

... or, just take your time with the game, enjoying the scenery and taking a break from the game after a couple of hours.

Interesting aside: Tends to annoy my wife, who wants to go do the next thing while my character sticks around to goof off after a quest.

Have only one active character, and even after three days of early access, just reached Level 24 yesterday.

ShADoW0s

Catflinger wrote: »

ShADoW0s wrote: »

Most people bought this game for the PvP,

Citation needed.

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en-uk/
http://elderscrollsonline.com/en-uk/joinus

There you go, ESO home page, and the buy link, read them both.

Four main points express by the marketing:

• THE ELDER SCROLLS. ONLINE! — Adventure in Tamriel with your friends and guild mates for the first time ever.
• PLAY THE WAY YOU LIKE — Develop your own style with deep character customization and abilities.
• MASSIVE PVP BATTLES — Fight for your alliance against enemy armies of hundreds across the battlefields of Cyrodiil.
• SAVE TAMRIEL — Unravel the schemes of Molag Bal and protect the world from the dark forces of Oblivion.

It seems I missed the point about being a single player game and endless questing in the other fraction zones, refer last point.

Kililin

OP simple answer:
You have no idea what you want @45 the MMO part of this game has not started yet for you.

ShADoW0s wrote: »

Catflinger wrote: »

ShADoW0s wrote: »

Most people bought this game for the PvP,

Citation needed.

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en-uk/
http://elderscrollsonline.com/en-uk/joinus

There you go, ESO home page, and the buy link, read them both.

Four main points express by the marketing:

• THE ELDER SCROLLS. ONLINE! — Adventure in Tamriel with your friends and guild mates for the first time ever.
• PLAY THE WAY YOU LIKE — Develop your own style with deep character customization and abilities.
• MASSIVE PVP BATTLES — Fight for your alliance against enemy armies of hundreds across the battlefields of Cyrodiil.
• SAVE TAMRIEL — Unravel the schemes of Molag Bal and protect the world from the dark forces of Oblivion.

It seems I missed the point about being a single player game and endless questing in the other fraction zones, refer last point.

It is not that bad. If you optimise VR's you are done with them quite fast, not WoW fast, but fast enough.

stevenpotter321b14_ESO

I believe the biggest issue is the 'play the way you like' that is what is burning people out in VR. Its slow, yeah, thats bearable, but really there are ways that simply don't work in VR that was a breeze earlier in the game, and in fact is a breeze in the same area if you weren't playing VR. Not only that, the rewards for going through this challenge many times do not cover the cost of going through it for many players.

If the cost of a respec was minimal, a player could easily respec as needed to meet the new demands, and after completing VR easily respec to how they want for other parts of the game. However, the cost to respec is astronomical for many players to swap around and experiment with. Then you have the cost of item repair, that degrades even outside of death and taking hits being rather costly.

Then you look at Vr and say, why is it harder. You see that mobs don't fight better, or do abilities more, or anything of the nature. They just have a lot more health, resistance, and damage. You on the other hand, upgrade gear for a measly +2 to stats.

In the end, many people feel forced to play a way, end up poor, skilled how they do not want to be skilled, and feeling substantially weaker than the hero that smacked Molag Bal upside the head.

tanthil

stevenpotter321b14_ESO wrote: »

Then you look at Vr and say, why is it harder. You see that mobs don't fight better, or do abilities more, or anything of the nature. They just have a lot more health, resistance, and damage. You on the other hand, upgrade gear for a measly +2 to stats.

In the end, many people feel forced to play a way, end up poor, skilled how they do not want to be skilled, and feeling substantially weaker than the hero that smacked Molag Bal upside the head.

This is a point i haven't seen brought up nearly enough, gearing is INCREDIBLY boring. Getting better gear in an mmorpg is usually nearly the biggest driving force to playing playing the game.. and im getting nothing my damage is not increasing.. my armor is slightly increasing at a very slow rate as a i level as is my resources but seriously this is boring as hell, i expected it to get much better in vr ranks but its exactly the same now

Apricot

tanthil wrote: »

stevenpotter321b14_ESO wrote: »

Then you look at Vr and say, why is it harder. You see that mobs don't fight better, or do abilities more, or anything of the nature. They just have a lot more health, resistance, and damage. You on the other hand, upgrade gear for a measly +2 to stats.

In the end, many people feel forced to play a way, end up poor, skilled how they do not want to be skilled, and feeling substantially weaker than the hero that smacked Molag Bal upside the head.

This is a point i haven't seen brought up nearly enough, gearing is INCREDIBLY boring. Getting better gear in an mmorpg is usually nearly the biggest driving force to playing playing the game.. and im getting nothing my damage is not increasing.. my armor is slightly increasing at a very slow rate as a i level as is my resources but seriously this is boring as hell, i expected it to get much better in vr ranks but its exactly the same now

And this I don't get at all. Who thought it would be a good game design to have your character actually regress? How is it possible that any sane game designer came up with the idea that it would be fun to get worse?? As you level up through the vet ranks, this is exactly what's happening.

We've been trolled by Zenimax. I can't think of any other reason. Just waiting for a dev to pop in and say, "Because your mom likes it hard."

mmark516

VR doesnt seem much harder, its just more xp per lvl (i am in vr now). My point was really we will reach the end to fast. Also while everyone having the option to do anything is great, everyone being able to do everything at once is not so great. Placing a dent in WOW will be difficult without starting the game with enough content to last at least a year, everyone who plays this game long enough will be a master of everything. (which is an issue in almost every major mmo). Someone with a budget break the mmo mold already.

tanthil

mmark516 wrote: »

VR doesnt seem much harder, its just more xp per lvl (i am in vr now). My point was really we will reach the end to fast. Also while everyone having the option to do anything is great, everyone being able to do everything at once is not so great. Placing a dent in WOW will be difficult without starting the game with enough content to last at least a year, everyone who plays this game long enough will be a master of everything. (which is an issue in almost every major mmo). Someone with a budget break the mmo mold already.

If you think max level is the end..... this must be your first MMO. max level in every other big MMO is in fact the START, this is why people think current design is broken because they cannot even get started in the game with out months of work. If reaching level cap means the end then they have failed horribly at adding end game content (which I'm unsure of yet)

morashtakb16_ESO

The only way to slow down leveling would be to lower exp given but then we run into a serious problem - There is not enough content to do this effectively.

As of now we have to finish a vast majority of all the quests and/or grind dungeons and /or grind PvP in order to reach max level.

There needed to be many more areas to quest in (three race specific starting areas then slowly coming together to what we have now).

Also, many more dungeons (approx twice what we have now), all having both "Normal" and "VR" mode, would give us much more variety in dungeon grinding.

Doing this would allow us to level alts without having to complete the same exact content again and again and again.

Slowing down the exp rate gain, with only the content we have now, forces all of us into either a dungeon and/or PvP grind and a subset of players do not want to be forced into that.

kelkes

I started TESO for the PvP but since level up to 50 with quests is so extremely boring made me quit... They totally forgot about the casual PvP player who do not care about PvE and Quests like myself. I would even PAY to skip all the PvE part.

My guild mates are VRx now and i had to play alone all the time.. that simply suxxs and its not the main point of an MMO.
GW & GW2 had this done right.