So bats are gone, Cyrodiil participation is bouncing back but...

Soban

Lag is terrible. Pls help.

Sariias

Just throw some more Pony Guars on the wheel.

Raeder

They've got bigger problems than lag. Players who abused the bat form are the same people now abusing Sorc and DK Standard/Talon w/ Sword and Shield.

Oblongship

Raeder wrote: »

They've got bigger problems than lag. Players who abused the bat form are the same people now abusing Sorc and DK Standard/Talon w/ Sword and Shield.

Yeah! How dare those people use attacks their classes get!

What jerks! They should all be banned!

I mean using your attacking is CLEARLY abusing it!

Raeder

If vampire bat swarming was considered abuse because of the ability to lower the ultimate cost, then having a 75 ult standard that equals instant death for anyone not VR10 is also abuse.

Just because the developers have left a mess as far as balancing is concerned does not mean that taking advantage of it is not ill gotten gains.

Zargorius

Raeder wrote: »

If vampire bat swarming was considered abuse because of the ability to lower the ultimate cost, then having a 75 ult standard that equals instant death for anyone not VR10 is also abuse.

Just because the developers have left a mess as far as balancing is concerned does not mean that taking advantage of it is not ill gotten gains.

Instant death? What are you smoking and can I have some? Do you know you can ROLL in this game? Do you?

jbaslarub17_ESO

Raeder wrote: »

If vampire bat swarming was considered abuse because of the ability to lower the ultimate cost, then having a 75 ult standard that equals instant death for anyone not VR10 is also abuse.

Just because the developers have left a mess as far as balancing is concerned does not mean that taking advantage of it is not ill gotten gains.

So why list class skills instead of ultimate reduction since you think that is the problem?

Starshadw

Zargorius wrote: »

Instant death? What are you smoking and can I have some? Do you know you can ROLL in this game? Do you?

This would be better advice if the dodge roll wasn't a little... twitchy.

First, don't forget, you have to have the requisite amount of Stamina to roll (when you're being held by talons and being beaten on often by multiple people, you generally don't have the second or two to wait for your Stamina to regen and let's face it, the Quickslot function we have in-game is not great for quickly switching between pots so unless you have the Stamina pot already selected so you can just hit the Quickslot key to drink it, you're probably out of luck).

Second, I have flat-out had many times when my character should have dodge-rolled and just... didn't. I had enough Stamina, I did the double-tap, and... nothing. (Sadly, I see the same thing happen with weapon-switching - sometimes, I press the key and the game simply doesn't register it).

Third, I'm noticing there are cc options that prevent you from dodge-rolling and switching weapons (which makes it eve harder in PvP-land to tell when you're dealing with the "unresponsive game" bug and when you are genuinely cced).

Zargorius

Starshadw wrote: »

Zargorius wrote: »

Instant death? What are you smoking and can I have some? Do you know you can ROLL in this game? Do you?

This would be better advice if the dodge roll wasn't a little... twitchy.

First, don't forget, you have to have the requisite amount of Stamina to roll (when you're being held by talons and being beaten on often by multiple people, you generally don't have the second or two to wait for your Stamina to regen and let's face it, the Quickslot function we have in-game is not great for quickly switching between pots so unless you have the Stamina pot already selected so you can just hit the Quickslot key to drink it, you're probably out of luck).

Second, I have flat-out had many times when my character should have dodge-rolled and just... didn't. I had enough Stamina, I did the double-tap, and... nothing. (Sadly, I see the same thing happen with weapon-switching - sometimes, I press the key and the game simply doesn't register it).

Third, I'm noticing there are cc options that prevent you from dodge-rolling and switching weapons (which makes it eve harder in PvP-land to tell when you're dealing with the "unresponsive game" bug and when you are genuinely cced).

I know the issues with roll but calling the Standard "insta-death" is just rich. Exaggerating a problem ain't gonna help fixing it - the issue is Standar + Talons, a Standard alone does *** as you can just walk away most of the time (unless you were on the verge of dying anyway).

Kypho

Well. They know about the talon issue. They try to figure a way to make players immune to rootspam. Talon hits more target than it should. Shield bash doing more dmg as intended with stats equiped (deadly bash). Shield bash getting fix. As for Standard, ye it does a fkload dmg. I dont know if its intended or not, no word about it.