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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

I didnt sub to "Vamps Online".

realcaged_ESO
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I am vr 7 DK and just went 1v1 on a sorc vamp and it was untouchable. Make all the excuses you want but I will not play a vampire to be viable.

Fixing broken mechanics is not a nerf.

As I stated, i never wanted to play a mmo with half a population of vampires.
  • Kiash
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    I honestly don't know why the vampire/werewolf thing even made into ESO. It was pretty much a gimmick in Oblivion and Skyrim. If I wanted to play a Vampire or Werewolf, I would of made one at the character selection screen.
  • Inzababa
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    I'm glad there are finally quite a few threads about this now, rather than just one mega 14k view one.

    I'm not at all into whining and QQing to balance the game, but this is way beyond what anyone would consider acceptable.

    The faster they fix this the better, I really can't see them not doing so.
    Resistance is FUtilez
    Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
    Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value.

    Resistance is FUtilez
  • Thevenin
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    If it doesn't get fixed with Craglorn, I'll get myself a bite too and we can happily play Vampires Online with the 3 same spells.
  • awkwarrd
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  • Thechemicals
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    Vampires are owning the world lol. Awesome. We need Vampire hunters.
    Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
    Vr14 Dk bow/2h

    Brayan Blackthunder
    Goddick
    Daggerfall Covenant

  • eisenheitb16_ESO
    What's the point ? They would be hunted while being hunters.
    I'm just sad that Werewolf aren't more popular (who can blame them ?), and that non-humans seems lacking compared to fake-Alucards.
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Mate , dont worry , they will nerf the vampire , i would bet on it , oh wait , maybe you should worry , cause they will nerf the freaking DK also :P.
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • realcaged_ESO
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    Seven days remain.
  • Sirlex
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    Elder Vampire Siegecraft Online - I think I like this name.
  • vizionblind_ESO
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    Edited by vizionblind_ESO on 29 April 2014 17:35
  • CapuchinSeven
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    There's a reason you see a ton of Vampires and not many wolves and it's not because people think vampires are cooler.
  • realcaged_ESO
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    Mate , dont worry , they will nerf the vampire , i would bet on it , oh wait , maybe you should worry , cause they will nerf the freaking DK also :P.

    If they nerf Banner, which is strong because a caster DK is slow with no movement, i will be forced into a melee charge *** stamina build.

    DK has 2 choices outside of vampire, caster banner magicka resto class abilities...or a pure melee charge stamina build 2 hander s/b.

  • Asava
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    I think they're shooting for Masquerade: Dem Eldar Skrollz!
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    There's a reason you see a ton of Vampires and not many wolves and it's not because people think vampires are cooler.

    Uhhh , talk for yourself.

    I totally think vampires are cooler.

    PS: Malkavian ftw.
    Edited by Nox_Aeterna on 29 April 2014 17:40
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • Hodorius
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    Your choice... use Silver Bolts or die...

    That´s why i LOVE vampires.
    Beeing a WW rocks btw... of course you should never use it as the skill itself is useless.
    Edited by Hodorius on 29 April 2014 17:50
  • MorHawk
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    Sirlex wrote: »
    Elder Vampire Siegecraft Online - I think I like this name.

    Mother of freaking crap. Enough with the "X OP ability online" stuff. I get it, there are loads of imbalances in ESO, but enough already with the line. It wasn't funny or original the first thousand times.
    Edited by MorHawk on 29 April 2014 17:53
    Observant wrote: »
    I can count to potato.
    another topic that cant see past its own farts.
    WWJLHD?
  • Kypho
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    Problem is TESO didnt fixed it in a hotfix. hotfix for em are quest bugs atm, and maybe just 1% resource if for any else. PvP ballance is like always the last of the last. MMO strategy
    TESO proved it, that its just an another mmo out there, nothing more, since they *** on the unballance or unfair advantages in pvp, what ever they said. There will be promises and thats all.
    Edited by Kypho on 29 April 2014 19:46
  • awkwarrd
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    Just throwing this out there for those people who can't kill the DK Vamps abusing the ulti reduction stacking.

    With 1 point in the passive.
    dkultiabuse1_zpscd6128aa.jpg

    They have a passive that gives 70% and more of each stat, whenever they use an ulti.
    No amount of Silver Bolts in a 1v1 can stop this.

    With 2 points in the passive.
    dkultiabuse12_zpscd59bbfb.jpg
    Edited by awkwarrd on 30 April 2014 04:34
  • MrAmadeus
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    @Awkwarrd how does that passive actually work with ultimate cost reduction? I mean the passive states its 70% of the ultimate cost, but so far what i hear they get to reduce the cost down to something like 35, which really wont restore much? So I gues what i want to know if it is 70% of the reduced or the orginal ultimate cost? :-)
    And the first line indicate there is some kind of fixed amount it restore allways, is that true, han how much is it if there is? Not a dk, so I dont know ;-)
  • awkwarrd
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    MrAmadeus wrote: »
    @Awkwarrd how does that passive actually work with ultimate cost reduction? I mean the passive states its 70% of the ultimate cost, but so far what i hear they get to reduce the cost down to something like 35, which really wont restore much? So I gues what i want to know if it is 70% of the reduced or the orginal ultimate cost? :-)
    And the first line indicate there is some kind of fixed amount it restore allways, is that true, han how much is it if there is? Not a dk, so I dont know ;-)
    I found out about it from my DK Vamp friend who has a DK Vamp group in Cyradiil.

    Apparently it's broken, they just get back 70% of each stat.
    So from 1% health/magicka/stam.
    They can hit their Ulti and get 71% health/magicka/stam and sometimes more.
    And with the Ulti reduction stacking, and Ulti points increase, they can basically just spam it, that's how you see those videos of people tanking 50+ people.
    Even not being a vamp, they could just spam any ulti and still be able to do this.

    The tooltips are just borked in general, especially when yer dealing with broken skills and mechanics.

    Pretty sad to see Vampires get the hate of everyone, when it's just people abusing broken skills and mechanics.
    Although it is very funny to see the Vampire plague.
    Kinda makes you want to see the Dawnguard popup.
    Edited by awkwarrd on 30 April 2014 05:09
  • RaZaddha
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    I thought this game was named Dragon Twilight Knight Online, made by some random teenage girl.
    Edited by RaZaddha on 30 April 2014 05:10
  • Dekkameron
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    CCP cancelled their vampire game, perhaps this game is picking up the slack.
    - Veteran Combat Librarian -
  • Rylana
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    My character is only a vampire because I got bit by pure accident while killing a world boss O_o

    Dead serious. I was just going to kill whatever there was there at Ushmaels whatever its called, and next thing i know i have a waypoint on my radar, and its the vampire shrine im at. Had no idea.

    Figured id just roll with it
    Edited by Rylana on 30 April 2014 10:17
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  • BrassRazoo
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    When I saw the selling of Vamp and WW Bites, and the complaining about camping and scamming it was annoying.
    I hoped it would go away but it just kept on and on and got very annoying.
    Now these characters seem to be causing problems in PvP / AvA with Vamps and others asking for a WW buff / fix.
    The game is turning in a childish Vamp / WW phantasy.
    I am probably old compared to some but the first "cool" vampire movie I watched was The Lost Boys and I didn't even really like that.
    Now I just cringe and feel like I am trapped in a teen camp True Blood / Twilight fantasy and I am starting to feel ill and am reaching for my cancel sub button to cure me.
    Edited by BrassRazoo on 30 April 2014 10:37
  • leewells
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    Mate , dont worry , they will nerf the vampire , i would bet on it , oh wait , maybe you should worry , cause they will nerf the freaking DK also :P.

    Nope, they will nerf the werewolf first even though it is the most under-powered transformation out there... mark my word.
    Edited by leewells on 30 April 2014 10:38
  • Kevaliji
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    I love this game, but if this vamp bs continues i wont think twice to yank my sub.
  • xhrit
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    Ima just say I called it. I've been saying for six months that this game's pvp would be awesome until the crybabies drowned the internet in tears of sorrow about how they were ganked by vamps.

    It is glorious.
    xhrit wrote: »
    Posted 06-07-2013
    The only content in Elder Scrolls Online will be vampire twinks ganking carebears ... Not that horribly one sided zergfest pvp isnt fun or anything, I am sure looking forward to it.

    Whoever had the idea to take the biggest most carebear friendly single player console rpg and turn it into a hardcore open world pvp mmo gankfest was a genius.

    Dark Age of Oblivion is going to cause so much rage it is not funny.
    Edited by xhrit on 30 April 2014 11:36
  • awkwarrd
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    xhrit wrote: »
    Ima just say I called it. I've been saying for six months that this game's pvp would be awesome until the crybabies drowned the internet in tears of sorrow about how they were ganked by vamps.
    Yeah.. but broken skills and no balance fixes on their way..
    Example.. Werewolf.. it's just busted up.. and it's getting a nerf in craglorn..

    Did you call that too?
  • xhrit
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    awkwarrd wrote: »
    xhrit wrote: »
    Ima just say I called it. I've been saying for six months that this game's pvp would be awesome until the crybabies drowned the internet in tears of sorrow about how they were ganked by vamps.
    Yeah.. but broken skills and no balance fixes on their way..
    Example.. Werewolf.. it's just busted up.. and it's getting a nerf in craglorn..

    Did you call that too?

    nope. just the vampire twink ruling pvp thing.
  • rophez_ESO
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