Wake up! Ebonheart Pact US

blackwolf7

Im not sure what happened since i just joined ep coming from aldmeri dominion.

All the campaigns we are being eaten alive. We are being toyed with in hopesfire, goldbrand, bloodthorn, auriel, skullcrusher, dawnbreaker. Ive never seen such a weak alliance. We used to have a campaign dominated by us, now every campaign belongs to dc and ad.

How the hell are we getting owned in every campaign, was there an internal drama that broke guilds apart from cooperating?

shane59301b14_ESO

I dont know about the others but on skullcrusher the main issue is that AD is up later than Ebonheart. Ebon may take the map but it is taken back cause there is not enough defending at the time that AD comes running though. We did remove the emporer on saterday great fun. but was back by morning cause people have to work.

Igolbug

the problem with ebonheart is it didn't have a target pvp audience.

AD is where all the people went who just wanted to win even if it meant they were fighting nobody.

DC in beta was the lowest pop on every campaign so most of the hardcore guilds went there for the challenge, assuming they were going to be outnumbered everywhere.

Zintair

Igolbug wrote: »

the problem with ebonheart is it didn't have a target pvp audience.

AD is where all the people went who just wanted to win even if it meant they were fighting nobody.

DC in beta was the lowest pop on every campaign so most of the hardcore guilds went there for the challenge, assuming they were going to be outnumbered everywhere.

Actually DC had quite the significant pop on Wabbajack in BETA.

Ulvich

I kind of lost interest in the whole pvp thing. Mainly because the battleground is way too big, and the players are way too spread out. It’s a good concept expect there are just too few players for such a large area.
Several times I have been called for support at a point only to find everyone has left by the time I got there.
I think if we had some smaller fields (and I don’t mean arena size) pvp might pick up.

Thechemicals

Ebonheart in Usa servers for wabbajack nearly made Aldmeri and Daggerfall extinct last weekend.

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO

PvP is dead. Veteran exploiters ruined it.

They should have just left the level cap at 50, and bumped up the cap by releasing more content. That would have kept the playing field fair for PvP. Because now there is a huge discrepancy between newcomers and veteran 10 players. And the game has only been out for 24 days.

Veteran levels should be scrapped. It was just a lazy, cheap way of 'adding more content' and useless goals to achieve. But it killed the balance.

Saw a vet 10 defend a castle alone yesterday. Killed everyone, nobody returned. I wasn't in Cyrodiil more than 10 minutes.

The second big issue is forward encampments. They are a rip-off.

Travel time = a waste of time.

The 'battle action per travel time' ratio in this game is worse than any other game on the planet.

Zintair

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »

And the game has only been out for 24 days.

Probably the only part of what you wrote that people should actually read.

Lord_Draevan

I'm not sure if it was only for this weekend, but I checked Goldbrand and Hopesfire and we were utterly dominating from Friday night to Sunday night. We're also way ahead in score, and we had all keeps and Scrolls.
I've also been on Wabbajack for about a week, and we're doing pretty well so far. Back and forth between DC and EP the whole time, AD isn't even trying. The others... yeah, we're pretty screwed on them.

Igolbug

AD got a group of V10 Former emperors on Wabbajack who ar all vamp sorcs so they might start doing some stuff.

Hoodster92_ESO

Igolbug wrote: »

AD got a group of V10 Former emperors on Wabbajack who ar all vamp sorcs so they might start doing some stuff.

They had a pretty sizeable force last night stealing the scrolls, and were able to make a good back and forth between BRK and Allesia. Should make things fun!

Alestair

We are awake, we just can't kill one person with the entire faction LOL

ralonasan

Come help us clear the map on skullcrusher so we can move to Wabbajack!

blackwolf7

Im playing on wabbajack right now and thoufh we are not owning, we certainly are not getting owned. This is by far the best choice for me for now. Because here atleast we get scrolls from time to time unlike on other campaigns wherein we only get them once a week and lasts for like 6hours

Cardan011

I can't even get in Cyrodil end up in infinite loading screen , have to exit game completely....

BrassRazoo

I have heard quite a few people say that EP have had the short end of the stick regarding VR exploiters.
What apparently happened is that a certain quest or dungeon in V1 for AD and V5 for DC was able to get you to V10 in a matter of hours.
Apparently by the time EP vet players got there it was fixed.
So basically AD had all the first V10 payers and many people swapped to join them as they saw them winning, DC got there second so still have decent numbers.
Most of EP are still questing and levelling and trying to catch up.
Perhaps not all is doom and gloom and when and if the EP players do get there they should be better players.

This is just what I have read in certain circles.

Kevaliji

shane59301b14_ESO wrote: »

I dont know about the others but on skullcrusher the main issue is that AD is up later than Ebonheart. Ebon may take the map but it is taken back cause there is not enough defending at the time that AD comes running though. We did remove the emporer on saterday great fun. but was back by morning cause people have to work.

Haha i play on DC in skull crusher, i thought it was hilarious how both EP and DC had this silent agreement on dethroning luvboard. I was literally standing in a group of 20+ EP doing /cheer and none were attacking me. Was an epic fight.

casselna_ESO

Kevaliji wrote: »

shane59301b14_ESO wrote: »

I dont know about the others but on skullcrusher the main issue is that AD is up later than Ebonheart. Ebon may take the map but it is taken back cause there is not enough defending at the time that AD comes running though. We did remove the emporer on saterday great fun. but was back by morning cause people have to work.

Haha i play on DC in skull crusher, i thought it was hilarious how both EP and DC had this silent agreement on dethroning luvboard. I was literally standing in a group of 20+ EP doing /cheer and none were attacking me. Was an epic fight.

As a PVP'er on Skullcrusher...

DC are our allies until you're not. You know what I mean?

Zershar_Vemod

There would probably be more people in general if leveling wasn't killed by false rants of "exploiting." I mean, come on, PvE now has a vastly hastened means of gaining xp while PvP is next to nothing now...

There just isn't any incentive other than skyshards.

But about EP, that faction is just he "loser faction;" it has been, and most likely will remain the weakest of the 3 due to people giving up instantly or just bending over and never fighting back.

casselna_ESO

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

There would probably be more people in general if leveling wasn't killed by false rants of "exploiting." I mean, come on, PvE now has a vastly hastened means of gaining xp while PvP is next to nothing now...

There just isn't any incentive other than skyshards.

But about EP, that faction is just he "loser faction;" it has been, and most likely will remain the weakest of the 3 due to people giving up instantly or just bending over and never fighting back.

This is rather untrue...

Its not that we give up. AS I posted in another thread...EP on Skullcrusher pushes hard and pushes well, as does DC. However, AD doesn't do ANYTHING on skullcrusher except during oceanic times, or when the Empress (emporer) rears their ugly head and imba's the fights.

Using just last night as an example...

AD owned the WHOLE MAP on skullcrusher. EP and DC pushed them down into their own little slice of AD territory and raised the Wookie way cry of victory of having reclaimed most of the map. DC had their territory and EP had theirs and AD was pushed back into theirs...And it wasn't as if AD wasn't trying to defend. Many keeps we sieged had moderate to severe defenders and even if we wiped, we picked back up and brought the fight back to them. All we had to do was keep the keep sieged and draw them out thinking to pick us off. So long as we kept the keeps under siege, they couldn't respawn and add to the resistance.

So, EP isn't full of ninnies, it just seems as if EP isn't as interested in PvP as the other factions, but those who are, are relentless.

Sardaukar66

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

There would probably be more people in general if leveling wasn't killed by false rants of "exploiting." I mean, come on, PvE now has a vastly hastened means of gaining xp while PvP is next to nothing now...

There just isn't any incentive other than skyshards.

But about EP, that faction is just he "loser faction;" it has been, and most likely will remain the weakest of the 3 due to people giving up instantly or just bending over and never fighting back.

rofl, I find that statement rather funny, cause it's so untrue. For the longest time I remember, EP was owning most of the campaign, however that all change as BrassRazoo said. Also, casselna made a good point at the end.

Neoyoshi

Zintair wrote: »

michaelpatrickjonesnub18_ESO wrote: »

And the game has only been out for 24 days.

Probably the only part of what you wrote that people should actually read.

Quoted to further stress how important it is for players in a new online game to practice patience.

It's going to take a couple of months (at least -if not close to a year) for a game community to really balance itself out. (and even then there will still be road-bumps.)

This is assuming people are patient enough to help the devs fine-tune everything.

blackwolf7

Sardaukar66 wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

There would probably be more people in general if leveling wasn't killed by false rants of "exploiting." I mean, come on, PvE now has a vastly hastened means of gaining xp while PvP is next to nothing now...

There just isn't any incentive other than skyshards.

But about EP, that faction is just he "loser faction;" it has been, and most likely will remain the weakest of the 3 due to people giving up instantly or just bending over and never fighting back.

rofl, I find that statement rather funny, cause it's so untrue. For the longest time I remember, EP was owning most of the campaign, however that all change as BrassRazoo said. Also, casselna made a good point at the end.

YEa i also remembered the times when ep owned the whole map, that's why i was wondering if there had been some internal conflicts which lead to us being the weakest among the three factions now

ThreeEyedCrow

There were several unbalancing factors for EP on Auriels Bow.

First is the fact that apparently Oceanic timezone mega guilds chose that server (Synapse). They have enormous numbers of players on while DC and EP sleeps since most DC and EP in AurielsBow are North America. Every morning when I wake up AD has completely taken over the map.

The other issue for EP was that we had more main story/progression bugs in our faction quests than the other factions had. So while MANY of us were stuck at v1 in EP , DC and AD were leveling.

Then there was the Darkshade Cavern bug/exploit/grind. That was only accessible to EP at v6 and many of our fastest levelers were gimped by the progression bugs. It was accessible and probably used to power level by DC and AD to power level extremely quickly v1-v3 or v4-v6 depending on faction.

Add all those together and as a faction, EP has far less V10s in PvP and when AD has peak hours, EP and DC have the lowest pops of the day.

blackwolf7

Goldbrand seems to be well again, i did guest mode there yesterday and ep owned some scrolls. Not all but majority.


I also tried guesting on wabbajack the day before yesterday and i can say it is balance between dc and ep though ep owns most scrolls, when fighting over a keep, the fight seems balance

Sylvanna

ThreeEyedCrow wrote: »

There were several unbalancing factors for EP on Auriels Bow.

First is the fact that apparently Oceanic timezone mega guilds chose that server (Synapse). They have enormous numbers of players on while DC and EP sleeps since most DC and EP in AurielsBow are North America. Every morning when I wake up AD has completely taken over the map.

The other issue for EP was that we had more main story/progression bugs in our faction quests than the other factions had. So while MANY of us were stuck at v1 in EP , DC and AD were leveling.

Then there was the Darkshade Cavern bug/exploit/grind. That was only accessible to EP at v6 and many of our fastest levelers were gimped by the progression bugs. It was accessible and probably used to power level by DC and AD to power level extremely quickly v1-v3 or v4-v6 depending on faction.

Add all those together and as a faction, EP has far less V10s in PvP and when AD has peak hours, EP and DC have the lowest pops of the day.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/78389/there-is-a-real-problem-on-auriel-s-bow/p12

Mystriss

EP (US Hopesfire) here. I'm still leveling... I have a real life that requires attention constantly; job, husband, kid, dogs, so I just can't seem to motivate myself to PvE, I hate it so much. The only reason I'm even playing ESO is for the PvP, but I'm pretty relaxed about getting in there right now.

Thing is, to me it doesn't matter how AvA looks right now or even next month, I'm more interested in the long run. So ya know, if it takes me another three months to get V10, no worries. When I get there I do expect to make enemies, hopefully enemies that I'll have for years to come

Anyway, my point is that there are some calm, collected, cold hearted killers on EP, we're just biding our time... Letting ya'll AD and DC fall into a false sense of safety