Is it beneficial to join a Campaign that your Alliance is dominating?

Torasi

Everyone has seen the Campaigns where there is one Alliance that is incredibly dominant compared to the others. The question is, would it make more sense to join in a fight that you're already winning, or to join in a fight where maybe you could be more of a help in getting your alliance some keeps, scrolls, etc.?

beravinprb19_ESO

Yes. If your alliance controls everything in the campaign, then all players get the offensive and defensive boosts from the Elder Scrolls, as well as the Emperor health bonus. The health bonus, in particular, is quite significant for PvP and PvE. That said, if all this server imbalance nonsense is not dealt with soon, then I'll be looking for a new game.

Nox_Aeterna

Yes, Join the Winning Team

Deppends on what you focus.

If you are a PvE player , it makes much more sense to join a camp where your faction is owning , should be easier to get the skyshards , do quests and you get the bonus most of the time.

From a PvP player point of view , it deppends on how they want to fight , but i would say it is not that good of an idea to me , i would rather have a balanced fight where all 3 factions keep going at each other.

Still , "IS IT BENEFICIAL TO JOIN A CAMPAIGN THAT YOUR ALLIANCE IS DOMINATING?" , yes , since you get buffs and other perks.

kevlarto_ESO

No, Help the Team in Need

I happen to be AD in dawnbreaker, I like to pvp so it is a snooze fest to me, even going around and getting shards, and doing other things, gets boring with almost not chance of seeing the other factions.. I guess if your more pve kinda person good time to get shards and do the quests.. /shrug

NTclaymore

No, Help the Team in Need

I actully like having some resistance. My current home campain has alot of trouble with the sheer among of EP players. We stand strong mostly but sometimes loses and they get emp for some time. But we manage. Its alot of fun

Qujz

No, Help the Team in Need

Guest on the server that your faction dominate on for shards and stuff.
And play on a low pop server.

Pyatra

No, Help the Team in Need

Home on balanced and guest on a favorable one for PvE stuff.

pecheckler

Yes, Join the Winning Team

Having to wait 70 days to chance getting in a campaign with even teams is absurd. Once i'm done with PvE I will get the 15k points for a single campaign switch. If the teams are not even and the campaign cannot maintain control of a third of the map over a few days, then i'm unsubscribing.

Campaigns should last a week. Nah, *** that. There shouldn't be campaigns. Any player, team, or guild joining PvP should be placed in a dynamic matchmaking system that changes every few days, after maintenance periods would be the ideal time.

What we have now is the players who lucked out and are locked in a winning campaign, and the rest of us who are not going to bother to try.

Funkitron

Yes, Join the Winning Team

From a purely fun point of view you're much better off in a more balanced campaign. Having no enemies to fight gets boring. That being said, there are definitely benefits to being in the dominating faction. You pretty much have free reign on all the dungeon skyshards, not to mention the skyshards that are usually locked behind the temple gates are much more likely to be accessible.

Putok

For leveling? Absolutely. Those buffs are tremendous. I'm keeping most of my characters in campaigns where their faction owns everything until they get to VR.

darkdruidssb14_ESO

Yes, Join the Winning Team

pecheckler wrote: »

Having to wait 70 days to chance getting in a campaign with even teams is absurd. Once i'm done with PvE I will get the 15k points for a single campaign switch. If the teams are not even and the campaign cannot maintain control of a third of the map over a few days, then i'm unsubscribing.

Campaigns should last a week. Nah, *** that. There shouldn't be campaigns. Any player, team, or guild joining PvP should be placed in a dynamic matchmaking system that changes every few days, after maintenance periods would be the ideal time.

What we have now is the players who lucked out and are locked in a winning campaign, and the rest of us who are not going to bother to try.

Actually what we have now are people complaining that all the campaigns are unbalanced less than 3 weeks out from launch. People demanding that everything be fixed immediately for a problem that WILL be resolved by the player base over time. People complaining that campaigns are unbalanced because they don't understand that the vast majority of the games population is leveling through PvE because leveling through Cyrodiil is much slower and tedious. People that don't understand that PvPers as a group are also a small percentage of the player base.. even in games that are labelled as PvP focused.

What we see right now are the more hardcore PvPers flocking to specific servers while the more casual PvPers will join the campaign with the highest pop for their alliance and then log out when they got their PvP fix so they can go back to PvE.

I don't think anyone can make a judgement call on the current campaign length when we have the above mentioned issues that could naturally resolve themselves in the next couple weeks. Guild Wars 2 also suffered population balance issues on their servers, but except for bandwagonners the populations leveled out over time.

Let's not forget that the actual Campaign rewards at the end of the time period aren't that amazing so people should stop looking at the finish line and focus on the race.

You guys do realize that the only thing that changes at the end of the campaign are the scores resetting right? The keeps that are held will still be held when the new campaign starts. So if you are on a terrible campaign then it will likely still be terrible unless you can get more people to join your campaign.

It's the equivalent of the people that raced to VR10 and complain that Adventure Zones aren't out yet and there isn't a lot for them to do. No crap! The game is still fresh and the vast majority of the player base is taking their time in PvE.

darkdruidssb14_ESO

Yes, Join the Winning Team

Anyway, as for the vote. Of course it's most beneficial to the individual player to join the campaigns their alliance is dominating. They will reap the benefits both in PvP and PvE as the structures/scrolls your alliance holds generate buffs for all aspects of the game.

That being said, if you are actually there to PvP then you should look at the more balanced and less populated servers because they have better potential for entertaining PvP battles. If you join an alliance locked campaign that has the other alliances with low population then you will never see meaningful enjoyable PvP combat.

So the actual answer to the poll depends on what you are looking at as your benefits.

I feel that if they made leveling through Cyrodiil at a reasonable rate then a lot more PvP focused people would actually join campaigns. I'm more of a hardcore PvPer myself, but since I can't realistically level in Cyrodiil at near the same rate as in PvE... I am forced to PvE. In other games like Warhammer Online, Guild Wars 2 and even Rift and Star Wars: The Old Republic... I could level through PvP and just go back for the quests later if I even wanted a break from PvP. Because for me PvE is the break from PvP.. not the other way around like it is for most PvE players. I spent 90% of my game time in RvR on Warhammer Online and Guild Wars 2... if I could do that in ESO then I would be an extremely happy player.

Randomixx

No, Help the Team in Need

Depends if you're a PvPer or more of a PvE player. The PvPers should go for a relatively balanced campaign in my opinion, while PvE-focused players should just join one where their faction is dominating for the buffs outside of Cyrodiil.

driosketch

Randomixx wrote: »

Depends if you're a PvPer or more of a PvE player. The PvPers should go for a relatively balanced campaign in my opinion, while PvE-focused players should just join one where their faction is dominating for the buffs outside of Cyrodiil.

I tried to do this last night with Dawnbreaker for my PvE alt in AD that just reached lvl10. To my surprise, DC have somehow rolled over AD's emperor keeps and was making off with the last two scrolls stealing all the bonuses I took for granted I would have. This despite AD having a massive pop advantage still. I stuck around to help get them back and earn a few rewards in the process. I hate to admit it, but being part of a winning zerg is somewhat fun. (I was a hindrance a few times just to alleviate the guilt. :P)

aeroch

Yes, Join the Winning Team

beravinprb19_ESO wrote: »

Yes. If your alliance controls everything in the campaign, then all players get the offensive and defensive boosts from the Elder Scrolls, as well as the Emperor health bonus. The health bonus, in particular, is quite significant for PvP and PvE. That said, if all this server imbalance nonsense is not dealt with soon, then I'll be looking for a new game.

Agreed. There's really no incentive to not join a winning campaign, or at least join one of the two high population campaigns with enough activity on all sides to be "balanced".

The 2-3 low population campaigns I've been trying out just aren't fun if you're on the losing side. Small gains the previous day, back to the gate the next, and not enough active players to turn the tide.

Unless there's a huge population boom as more players start hitting Veteran, they really ought to consolidate next campaign cycle and reduce the number of campaigns

KingZook

Yes, Join the Winning Team

Winning team means the emperor is on your side
nuff said