How can entire guilds be lvl 50 VR10 ??

wOOOOt_of_SD

The last couple of days, we see a full 24 man raid, that I assume is a guild, work exceptionally well together, crushing any resistance in their path.
Its insane - they lay waste to armies 2-3 times their size.
Tactics and dicipline is almost perfect!

I salute them for working so well, disiplined and superior,
I have no problem with that.

What I do have a problem with, is that it is 24+ lvl 50 VR 10 players, and they have been at that lvl for a couple of days.

Yes it is possible, because more and more hit the max lvl now, but it is still a (guessing) 1% minority or something like that. We have 130 members, and the highest is VR6.

Im not saying it is impossible. Im not calling cheat or exploit -
but I do call a "wtf??"

I simply cannot believe that 1 guild can have recruited SO MANY top players?
If they did, it is pretty crazy.

I hear people talking about some xp exploit.
And Maybe some admins should check out that Ebonheart Guild owning the EU Chrysemere campaign these days.

If they have all achieved lvl50VR10 legit, then I give them my apology for this post, and a lot of respect. But I have to ask, because It is almost too good to be true ;o)

Sylvanna

It's not that hard to be VR10 at this point. All you need is alot of time. I hit VR1 within 5 days of headstart (I'm not even that hardcore), hit VR10 a few days ago (full cleared VR1-5 zone, ran through VR6-10 zone completing zone quests + dungeons + elites only) and PvPed every night for at least 6 hours or more. Weekends were spent full time PvPing.

If you have an entire guild of people with alot of time, it is entirely possible to have almost everyone at VR10 by now, just by group clearing all PvE content. If I hadn't stepped into PvP at all, I would've been VR10 by last week.

It's not even that hard.

Azarul

Sylvanna wrote: »

It's not that hard to be VR10 at this point. All you need is alot of time. I hit VR1 within 5 days of headstart (I'm not even that hardcore), hit VR10 a few days ago (full cleared VR1-5 zone, ran through VR6-10 zone completing zone quests + dungeons + elites only) and PvPed every night for at least 6 hours or more. Weekends were spent full time PvPing.

It's not even that hard.

I would like to know your definition of hard core, lol

leandro.800ub17_ESO

I'm also a 5 days early and i am only lv 30. Around 2h a day of play and about 4-5 on weekends (i do work )
I believe its possible if you do only main quests and don't level any profession, also don't work and are not married and don't have kids (i mean 2h is hard core for me)

TheFio

No job no school no kids unmarried no girl/boyfriend no friends.

All that=vr levels this soon.

Thechemicals

Its exploitation, abuse, and use of macro programs 100% of the time. I belonged to these guilds in WoW and AoC, they share exploits and macro programs. When they cant find a way to do either, they abuse a games feature. Its power gamers and all of them belong to the same website. I cant say its name but just google it. They have so many threads on macro and exploits for so many different games, its just mind boggling. Many of them are the same guys who created macro programs for ultima online and addons for this game.

The upside is that they are a very small percentage of the entire gaming community, and they power game through games and get bored/move on, and best of all, they always get banned eventually.

Rangcom

TheFio wrote: »

No job no school no kids unmarried no girl/boyfriend no friends.

All that=vr levels this soon.

Well two jobs & no wife aggro = VR5. I did take a week of PTO though for HS/Launch. On that note, its a bit presumptuous to say that since these people are Veteran Ranked already, they have no life. I have plenty of guildmates that are past 50 with jobs, kids, married, and have girl/boyfriends.

PS. If you really try it takes about 70-80 hours to hit level 50. The higher curve starts there.

Sylvanna

Azarul wrote: »

Sylvanna wrote: »

It's not that hard to be VR10 at this point. All you need is alot of time. I hit VR1 within 5 days of headstart (I'm not even that hardcore), hit VR10 a few days ago (full cleared VR1-5 zone, ran through VR6-10 zone completing zone quests + dungeons + elites only) and PvPed every night for at least 6 hours or more. Weekends were spent full time PvPing.

It's not even that hard.

I would like to know your definition of hard core, lol

About 20hours of play every day with about 4 hours of sleep. That's how we rushed VR1 during headstart. (of course, I overslept because wtf 4 hours?)

TheFio wrote: »

No job no school no kids unmarried no girl/boyfriend no friends.

All that=vr levels this soon.

QFT.

ZiRM

I'm taking my time and I also have a life with friends, family and a job that's very demanding. Some people have the time to make this their full time job. I choose not to... It's all about the FUN for me not the veteran status or levels etc.

Tweek

Thechemicals wrote: »

Its exploitation, abuse, and use of macro programs 100% of the time. I belonged to these guilds in WoW and AoC, they share exploits and macro programs. When they cant find a way to do either, they abuse a games feature. Its power gamers and all of them belong to the same website. I cant say its name but just google it. They have so many threads on macro and exploits for so many different games, its just mind boggling. Many of them are the same guys who created macro programs for ultima online and addons for this game.

The upside is that they are a very small percentage of the entire gaming community, and they power game through games and get bored/move on, and best of all, they always get banned eventually.

If this is true these players need to be perma banned.

Hakoke

leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »

I'm also a 5 days early and i am only lv 30. Around 2h a day of play and about 4-5 on weekends (i do work )
I believe its possible if you do only main quests and don't level any profession, also don't work and are not married and don't have kids (i mean 2h is hard core for me)

I'm in the exact same boat. My wife would kill me if I spent more than 2 hours a night playing. She does let me get away with more time on the weekends, as long as I remember what is 'more' important.

This game really makes me miss my hard core gaming days, when I was out of a job and going to college.

Censorious

You can't compare the XP gain of solo questing to what you can achieve in a group.
You can waltz through mobs killing everything in sight in seconds and getting credit for each kill, clear dungeons the same way. You can easily double/triple your XP gain that way.

Personally, I'd rather play the game.

sleepspasmnub18_ESO

So are you saying there is no way 24 people that play the game could get together pre-release come up with a game plan to power level and reach vr10 within 2 weeks?

Just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean it can't be done. It's utter ridiculous to claim someone is cheating because they did something you can't. Lots of people find this sort of thing fun and have nothing better to do. To call them names and talk about their life like your opinion matters is childish and unnecessary.

reggielee

although i agree with you its a bit unfair to categorize them all like that. Many could be gaming right alongside their family members like I do. If you are up to a big challenge you could organize raids and go against them, use tactics to overcome their advantages and fight the good fight. I prob would just make a toon on another alliance or go to another campaign as it just will be too aggravating to compete. soon most campaigns will be full of this, end game raiders with no room for those leveling up thru the ranks. hope they have fun in their deserted campaigns

LoneWalker

we share accounts with a team and put characters to VR10 in maybe 96 hours? lol

Thechemicals

sleepspasmnub18_ESO wrote: »

So are you saying there is no way 24 people that play the game could get together pre-release come up with a game plan to power level and reach vr10 within 2 weeks?

Just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean it can't be done. It's utter ridiculous to claim someone is cheating because they did something you can't. Lots of people find this sort of thing fun and have nothing better to do. To call them names and talk about their life like your opinion matters is childish and unnecessary.

I havent seen what the Op says he saw, might not even be true. However, if he is telling the truth- 24+ players at max level vr10 is obvious that a macro loop program was used. I can imagine a lot of things, but this you have to be realistic about.

Srugzal

Thechemicals wrote: »

Its exploitation, abuse, and use of macro programs 100% of the time. I belonged to these guilds in WoW and AoC, they share exploits and macro programs. When they cant find a way to do either, they abuse a games feature. Its power gamers and all of them belong to the same website. I cant say its name but just google it. They have so many threads on macro and exploits for so many different games, its just mind boggling. Many of them are the same guys who created macro programs for ultima online and addons for this game.

The upside is that they are a very small percentage of the entire gaming community, and they power game through games and get bored/move on, and best of all, they always get banned eventually.

If you have something to report, report it through channels. If you have proof, report it through channels. Otherwise, shut up. This is not the place to vent your envy.

MysticAura

Power leveling and exploits. Totally avoiding the stories and exploration in favor of level grinding. There really isn't anything to be envious of.

I'm happy with the pace I'm keeping. I'm not missing out on things to race to end game. I'm extending my enjoyment of the game and staving off boredom of monotonous grinding. I kind of feel sorry for them and how much they're missing out on. However, it's their choice and if it makes them happy, then good. I only get annoyed if they see someone not racing and actually criticize them for it..that's just ridiculous.

Genev

At this point? Not really, it just means it's a hardcore guild of which most members/the core members took out time to level, and then helped the slower ones.

Mobius0

This is exactly why I did nothing but PvP the first week the game was out. I knew that it would soon be flooded by the people that powerleveled to VR levels, so it was my only chance to have the most balanced PvP experience I will ever have in this game.

Too bad that enjoyment was so short lived

Pryda

Thechemicals wrote: »

sleepspasmnub18_ESO wrote: »

So are you saying there is no way 24 people that play the game could get together pre-release come up with a game plan to power level and reach vr10 within 2 weeks?

Just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean it can't be done. It's utter ridiculous to claim someone is cheating because they did something you can't. Lots of people find this sort of thing fun and have nothing better to do. To call them names and talk about their life like your opinion matters is childish and unnecessary.

I havent seen what the Op says he saw, might not even be true. However, if he is telling the truth- 24+ players at max level vr10 is obvious that a macro loop program was used. I can imagine a lot of things, but this you have to be realistic about.

You guys are so ignorant lol but that's funny to read

lao

Thechemicals wrote: »

Its exploitation, abuse, and use of macro programs 100% of the time. I belonged to these guilds in WoW and AoC, they share exploits and macro programs. When they cant find a way to do either, they abuse a games feature. Its power gamers and all of them belong to the same website. I cant say its name but just google it. They have so many threads on macro and exploits for so many different games, its just mind boggling. Many of them are the same guys who created macro programs for ultima online and addons for this game.

The upside is that they are a very small percentage of the entire gaming community, and they power game through games and get bored/move on, and best of all, they always get banned eventually.

wow butthurt much?

calling every vr10 out there a cheater/exploiter is pretty rich

Eris

To be honest, one of the principle reasons that some people participate in beta (sometimes even alpha) testing is to determine the best way to circumnavigate most of the slow patches and figure out how to make 50 as fast as possible. As they have been in the game for months sometimes years before its released, they really don't care how fast they go.

Usually at the top there is a raid that they are also already familiar with that will allow them to raid for the best gear and be the most awesome and powerful people on a server. The problem here is that there isn't a raid (trial) and it won't be release for probably at least a few more weeks, so they get there and there is really nothing to do...

Magischzwei

Sylvanna wrote: »

It's not that hard to be VR10 at this point. All you need is alot of time. I hit VR1 within 5 days of headstart (I'm not even that hardcore), hit VR10 a few days ago (full cleared VR1-5 zone, ran through VR6-10 zone completing zone quests + dungeons + elites only) and PvPed every night for at least 6 hours or more. Weekends were spent full time PvPing.

If you have an entire guild of people with alot of time, it is entirely possible to have almost everyone at VR10 by now, just by group clearing all PvE content. If I hadn't stepped into PvP at all, I would've been VR10 by last week.

It's not even that hard.

You shall be lucky to not have ran into bugged main quests, then.

Genev

Magischz wrote:

You shall be lucky to not have ran into bugged main quests, then.

Game came out sunday, I hit 50 wednesday, didn't get a single bug in my main quests, but I do tend to be lucky in that. Other guildies were not so lucky. My leveling partner for example was stuck on the coldharbour quests for 3 days.

I've been pretty casual about leveling VR so I'm VR9, but we have plenty of VR10 people in the guild, and if you duo through the VR zones it actually goes quite fast.

wOOOOt_of_SD

Remember to check the date of the OP, and add 3 more days. for every day that goes now, the VR10 gets more and more common, and the headline topic gets irrelevant. But at the time I wrote it, I would say its fair to question how a guild had so many VR10 so early.

Pryda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSPWzsTAVhg&hd=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzFC4RYM518&hd=1

That's how it works. 4 days /played to reach VR10.

Bunk

Full NEET status = VR10 in days. ez

Sylvanna

Magischzwei wrote: »

Sylvanna wrote: »

It's not that hard to be VR10 at this point. All you need is alot of time. I hit VR1 within 5 days of headstart (I'm not even that hardcore), hit VR10 a few days ago (full cleared VR1-5 zone, ran through VR6-10 zone completing zone quests + dungeons + elites only) and PvPed every night for at least 6 hours or more. Weekends were spent full time PvPing.

If you have an entire guild of people with alot of time, it is entirely possible to have almost everyone at VR10 by now, just by group clearing all PvE content. If I hadn't stepped into PvP at all, I would've been VR10 by last week.

It's not even that hard.

You shall be lucky to not have ran into bugged main quests, then.

In fact, I have to say, you have an absolutely valid point. Many people were bogged down by bugged main story/zone quests. I was lucky to have been part of the faster group to hit VR1 and hence was not affected by the Hollow City Groundskeeper bug/Molag Bal bug.

Genev

wOOOOt_of_SD wrote: »

Remember to check the date of the OP, and add 3 more days. for every day that goes now, the VR10 gets more and more common, and the headline topic gets irrelevant. But at the time I wrote it, I would say its fair to question how a guild had so many VR10 so early.

Hmm, no, at the date that you posted that, a guild of VR10s was still not special, simply a hardcore guild.

Dleatherus

Thechemicals wrote: »

Its exploitation, abuse, and use of macro programs 100% of the time. I belonged to these guilds in WoW and AoC, they share exploits and macro programs. When they cant find a way to do either, they abuse a games feature. Its power gamers and all of them belong to the same website. I cant say its name but just google it. They have so many threads on macro and exploits for so many different games, its just mind boggling. Many of them are the same guys who created macro programs for ultima online and addons for this game.

The upside is that they are a very small percentage of the entire gaming community, and they power game through games and get bored/move on, and best of all, they always get banned eventually.

our guild The Noore - has a number of VR's - including VR10's - ALL of our members have leveled up legitimately

comments like yours reflect ignorance and envy on your part - at least have enough intelligence to know that leveling up for those that dedicate themselves to it, is very viable and legitimate in a short period of time, before you spit your dummy again

accusing folks who have worked hard and invested a lot of time, of being exploiters abusers and hackers would be the same as me calling you a stupid ignorant narrow minded jealous fool - i am confident neither is correct and your comment was merely oversight on your part

D.