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Thoughts on ESO Then Now and the Future
JimFord047
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Things I have problems with in ESO These Days!
Right off the bat, FOMO, I heard the new boss say it and instantly asked the much younger wife… “What the Hell is FOMO?”, , Fear of Missing Out , Ok, I did not understand, but hey ***!
NOW I get the FOMO, and now HAVE THE FOMO. In the majority all because of the NEW Changes to the game.
The old way, log in And get a reward, play as much as you wanted, level up your toons, sometimes get nice rewards for playing (depending on how good or bad your RNG was)
The New Way, enter the Mega Grind(s), for the rewards you used to get (take it & Keep it take it and delete it choice) you now have to spend HOURS doing things you really do not want to do, simply to get the “Free” login reward!
You also have event after event after event, on my lvl 3600 account this is great new things every day to keep me happy… But I do not use my lvl 3600 account that much these days , I am on my much older lvl 1850 one. I cannot get the Game done, because to go off and do a quest line means that I have to miss out on the event that will give me a few items that are useful, possibly, or at least probably wanted.
But even that’s a waste of time! As I have to find people that are on, to team up and farm (grind the hell out of things) the items that may or most likely will not give you something special.
I used to look forward to the Crafting events, I got XP, I got materials, I got boxes, I sometimes got good things. It was relaxing and enjoyable, now it’s One Purple Box for the First Daily Writ on the account, and that’s it! So solo play you’re really not going to get anything with the exception of the First Purple and the First Gold (as long As you remembered to take a toon to craglorn).
The Upcoming thieves guild I am looking forward to, I even went and did the OLD one again to get in the mood, difference being that I now Know about the armours and have the skill points / Champion points to make a difference!
Until Yesterday (June 28th 2026) then the lock picking all went wrong… press mouse let go of mouse, it’s still traveling down break pick , multiple times, only way it works press mouse release way before you have to and hope your guess is right…
The most likely problem being the UDP and key lag, nothing you can fix on your pc!
Do not get me wrong, a lot of the “improvements” are more than welcome, and the effort of the dev’s appreciated. But in a lot of other ways the game is evolving more to players coming in, rather than expanding improving for the Whole range of levels of players already in!
So here’s a few Ideas and reasons!
RNG, get it sorted and fairer! Reason , I have lots of accounts, play mostly 2, the oldest original account has/HAD unbelievably good RNG, right up until I actually started playing it, now its TRASH , feels like the more you play the more your punished for playing! So how about an RNG Meter? Is it good today on which toon! Save you wasting time trying to get the impossible and getting frustrated.
Equipment Repair, Yes you can do daily writs to get repairs kits, they drop in events, or you can pay for repairs… All GOOD, except, your max levelled everything toon, can make the thing, upgrade the thing, you can transmute the thing, but you simply cannot go to the workbench and repair anything -That’s a little unrealistic, please add a repair ability!
Guild Banking, something that a lot of people have wanted for a long time, now with the house in the Night Market you have it!!! WELL, DONE!!! But how about either expanding your banker to allow it, or even Selling a Guild banker that can do the Guild Stores as well.
A Mistake your always guilty of, and not helped by some Ignorant / Idiot players… you create collection events, for example the Upcoming Thieves Guild. In Glenumbra you need to collect Thieves troves, not a problem, but you can go from the top to the bottom and find 2 maybe 3 if your lucky, same on the way back. How are people meant to collect what is not there? Then to Add insult to injury the above mentions lot of people have got there first! All you get is lockpicks or rogues solution, makes it frustrating and a waste of your time effort and energy, and a desire NOT TO DO IT, a couple of days ago, I got NOTHING after 4 hours of farming, bar 163 lockpicks! That’s a needs to be sorted (goes for chests as well), make it either collect ALL , ALL of the time, let the person sell or delete at least everyone getting there only has to suffer the RNG problem!
You have a lot of bits already on board for people with Disabilities, Trust me there are a lot out there, who play more than the able bodied, but having to pay skill points to make the items glow, for them not to glow enough , is a little humph! Or allow ME to write a MOD to do it, I did it for Fallout 76 and have tried to do it for ESO, but that’s in the privileged area so it cannot be done! Options could be intensity or colour or both, even if you still link it to the use skill points to get them.
MOD Robbery, lol, ok I do it myself, take a MOD and alter it to suit myself. But you have taken basically Bandits User Interface , and are bringing it out on the next update or so. But people have spent a lot of time and effort, using the community to find out if it works, improve and expand. Now your putting it in, why not go to MINION and find you the most popular Mods AND GIVE THOSE NON-ZOS DEV’S the opportunity to access the privileged areas of the source code, and then have a set of ZOS approved mods to simply link in, A WHQL for Zos as it were!
Speaking of Interfaces, is it not about time you upgraded from the early FSR & DLSS to something newer? I understand that you have user base system constraints to bear in mind, but giving the option of FSR 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 and the associated DLSS variants, would be appreciated by a lot of people for better performance (frame generation might even give some of us NON PVP players a little edge in the PVP events lmao)
As I kind of inferred earlier I did not have FOMO, now since you created it, it’s a major problem, if a person playing 8-12+ hours a day 7 days a week (yes I have no life) cannot get things, how are others fairing? Unless you do have the RNG to punish people who do play?
Since I have multiple accounts, I know I am Hurting Myself playing the game! I miss the items I have bought on the other accounts, I am now at the stage I really do not want to do a lot of the things for the 30th 40th time , but if I want the abilities I have no choice. So why not let people LINK accounts together, lets you keep getting money, and lets the people enjoy what they gave you the money for in the first place? Multiple accounts are in a lot of cases your fault indirectly, People want / need more than 20 toons, that’s your cap, not theirs!
And if you really want to allow people to enjoy the game, why not HELP THEM? Flinging more and more things into the game is pointless if people do not know how to use them! I can create Toons that can stand in a Vet Dungeon and take as much pounding as you can throw at them. But last 20 Seconds in PVP, Why? Because I have no idea about PVP, the setups, the rotations, basically I know nothing in there, hence I do not go in unless forced by ZOS!
The Online presence, from my point of view , looks at what’s going on, guesses or goes by advice from others then simply spouts out the exact same build, so you end up with a game full of sheeple. A Starting point would be allowing the Dev’s to explain their thought process, their vision as it were, and how they intend for it to come around, and teach the players how to work this all out, and let them develop their own thoughts once they understand it! Ie Over the past few years it has went from varieties of everything, Tanks Being Tanks, Healers doing a little damage and healing, and DPS doing the DPS, to EVERYONE (AND THEIR DOGS) Bing lighthouses beaming in circles , to changing to the Dragon Knight flames (mostly because you do not need crux), to NOW EVERYBODY IS A DOG, ok werewolf, but you get what I mean. The META is the only way to now play the game… 2 options to deal with the META, NERF IT or replace it with another META, and the way it comes across is that you’re Jewel in the Crown, the arcanist , has needed nerfed since day 1 , but you’re on the replace it track for the foreseeable future!
And as a Final hmmmm, there is an old saying “if its not broken, do not fix it!”, you seem to be removing the old ways and replacing them with worse new ways in a lot of cases. People like me are simply playing less and less and in a lot of cases moving away from the game.
Sorry for the rant, but I am tired in pain and ESO is down for maintenance, I need a release lol
Right off the bat, FOMO, I heard the new boss say it and instantly asked the much younger wife… “What the Hell is FOMO?”, , Fear of Missing Out , Ok, I did not understand, but hey ***!
NOW I get the FOMO, and now HAVE THE FOMO. In the majority all because of the NEW Changes to the game.
The old way, log in And get a reward, play as much as you wanted, level up your toons, sometimes get nice rewards for playing (depending on how good or bad your RNG was)
The New Way, enter the Mega Grind(s), for the rewards you used to get (take it & Keep it take it and delete it choice) you now have to spend HOURS doing things you really do not want to do, simply to get the “Free” login reward!
You also have event after event after event, on my lvl 3600 account this is great new things every day to keep me happy… But I do not use my lvl 3600 account that much these days , I am on my much older lvl 1850 one. I cannot get the Game done, because to go off and do a quest line means that I have to miss out on the event that will give me a few items that are useful, possibly, or at least probably wanted.
But even that’s a waste of time! As I have to find people that are on, to team up and farm (grind the hell out of things) the items that may or most likely will not give you something special.
I used to look forward to the Crafting events, I got XP, I got materials, I got boxes, I sometimes got good things. It was relaxing and enjoyable, now it’s One Purple Box for the First Daily Writ on the account, and that’s it! So solo play you’re really not going to get anything with the exception of the First Purple and the First Gold (as long As you remembered to take a toon to craglorn).
The Upcoming thieves guild I am looking forward to, I even went and did the OLD one again to get in the mood, difference being that I now Know about the armours and have the skill points / Champion points to make a difference!
Until Yesterday (June 28th 2026) then the lock picking all went wrong… press mouse let go of mouse, it’s still traveling down break pick , multiple times, only way it works press mouse release way before you have to and hope your guess is right…
The most likely problem being the UDP and key lag, nothing you can fix on your pc!
Do not get me wrong, a lot of the “improvements” are more than welcome, and the effort of the dev’s appreciated. But in a lot of other ways the game is evolving more to players coming in, rather than expanding improving for the Whole range of levels of players already in!
So here’s a few Ideas and reasons!
RNG, get it sorted and fairer! Reason , I have lots of accounts, play mostly 2, the oldest original account has/HAD unbelievably good RNG, right up until I actually started playing it, now its TRASH , feels like the more you play the more your punished for playing! So how about an RNG Meter? Is it good today on which toon! Save you wasting time trying to get the impossible and getting frustrated.
Equipment Repair, Yes you can do daily writs to get repairs kits, they drop in events, or you can pay for repairs… All GOOD, except, your max levelled everything toon, can make the thing, upgrade the thing, you can transmute the thing, but you simply cannot go to the workbench and repair anything -That’s a little unrealistic, please add a repair ability!
Guild Banking, something that a lot of people have wanted for a long time, now with the house in the Night Market you have it!!! WELL, DONE!!! But how about either expanding your banker to allow it, or even Selling a Guild banker that can do the Guild Stores as well.
A Mistake your always guilty of, and not helped by some Ignorant / Idiot players… you create collection events, for example the Upcoming Thieves Guild. In Glenumbra you need to collect Thieves troves, not a problem, but you can go from the top to the bottom and find 2 maybe 3 if your lucky, same on the way back. How are people meant to collect what is not there? Then to Add insult to injury the above mentions lot of people have got there first! All you get is lockpicks or rogues solution, makes it frustrating and a waste of your time effort and energy, and a desire NOT TO DO IT, a couple of days ago, I got NOTHING after 4 hours of farming, bar 163 lockpicks! That’s a needs to be sorted (goes for chests as well), make it either collect ALL , ALL of the time, let the person sell or delete at least everyone getting there only has to suffer the RNG problem!
You have a lot of bits already on board for people with Disabilities, Trust me there are a lot out there, who play more than the able bodied, but having to pay skill points to make the items glow, for them not to glow enough , is a little humph! Or allow ME to write a MOD to do it, I did it for Fallout 76 and have tried to do it for ESO, but that’s in the privileged area so it cannot be done! Options could be intensity or colour or both, even if you still link it to the use skill points to get them.
MOD Robbery, lol, ok I do it myself, take a MOD and alter it to suit myself. But you have taken basically Bandits User Interface , and are bringing it out on the next update or so. But people have spent a lot of time and effort, using the community to find out if it works, improve and expand. Now your putting it in, why not go to MINION and find you the most popular Mods AND GIVE THOSE NON-ZOS DEV’S the opportunity to access the privileged areas of the source code, and then have a set of ZOS approved mods to simply link in, A WHQL for Zos as it were!
Speaking of Interfaces, is it not about time you upgraded from the early FSR & DLSS to something newer? I understand that you have user base system constraints to bear in mind, but giving the option of FSR 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 and the associated DLSS variants, would be appreciated by a lot of people for better performance (frame generation might even give some of us NON PVP players a little edge in the PVP events lmao)
As I kind of inferred earlier I did not have FOMO, now since you created it, it’s a major problem, if a person playing 8-12+ hours a day 7 days a week (yes I have no life) cannot get things, how are others fairing? Unless you do have the RNG to punish people who do play?
Since I have multiple accounts, I know I am Hurting Myself playing the game! I miss the items I have bought on the other accounts, I am now at the stage I really do not want to do a lot of the things for the 30th 40th time , but if I want the abilities I have no choice. So why not let people LINK accounts together, lets you keep getting money, and lets the people enjoy what they gave you the money for in the first place? Multiple accounts are in a lot of cases your fault indirectly, People want / need more than 20 toons, that’s your cap, not theirs!
And if you really want to allow people to enjoy the game, why not HELP THEM? Flinging more and more things into the game is pointless if people do not know how to use them! I can create Toons that can stand in a Vet Dungeon and take as much pounding as you can throw at them. But last 20 Seconds in PVP, Why? Because I have no idea about PVP, the setups, the rotations, basically I know nothing in there, hence I do not go in unless forced by ZOS!
The Online presence, from my point of view , looks at what’s going on, guesses or goes by advice from others then simply spouts out the exact same build, so you end up with a game full of sheeple. A Starting point would be allowing the Dev’s to explain their thought process, their vision as it were, and how they intend for it to come around, and teach the players how to work this all out, and let them develop their own thoughts once they understand it! Ie Over the past few years it has went from varieties of everything, Tanks Being Tanks, Healers doing a little damage and healing, and DPS doing the DPS, to EVERYONE (AND THEIR DOGS) Bing lighthouses beaming in circles , to changing to the Dragon Knight flames (mostly because you do not need crux), to NOW EVERYBODY IS A DOG, ok werewolf, but you get what I mean. The META is the only way to now play the game… 2 options to deal with the META, NERF IT or replace it with another META, and the way it comes across is that you’re Jewel in the Crown, the arcanist , has needed nerfed since day 1 , but you’re on the replace it track for the foreseeable future!
And as a Final hmmmm, there is an old saying “if its not broken, do not fix it!”, you seem to be removing the old ways and replacing them with worse new ways in a lot of cases. People like me are simply playing less and less and in a lot of cases moving away from the game.
Sorry for the rant, but I am tired in pain and ESO is down for maintenance, I need a release lol
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Daoin✭✭✭✭wait i stopped a quarter though reading. so much needed to be done on return to game, thought thieves guild was already out and i just did not have the time to check it out yet !0
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JimFord047✭✭✭✭No there is "Thieves Guild 2" coming on the next update, based in Glenumbra instead of Hews Bane, it was actually a fun dlc, hopefully this one is going to be even better!!!
From the Scuttlebut you do not NEED to have done the original one, but i would say do it, it teaches you a lot for the upcming quest line!
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✭✭✭JimFord047 wrote: »You have a lot of bits already on board for people with Disabilities, Trust me there are a lot out there, who play more than the able bodied, but having to pay skill points to make the items glow, for them not to glow enough , is a little humph! Or allow ME to write a MOD to do it, I did it for Fallout 76 and have tried to do it for ESO, but that’s in the privileged area so it cannot be done! Options could be intensity or colour or both, even if you still link it to the use skill points to get them.
MOD Robbery, lol, ok I do it myself, take a MOD and alter it to suit myself. But you have taken basically Bandits User Interface , and are bringing it out on the next update or so. But people have spent a lot of time and effort, using the community to find out if it works, improve and expand. Now your putting it in, why not go to MINION and find you the most popular Mods AND GIVE THOSE NON-ZOS DEV’S the opportunity to access the privileged areas of the source code, and then have a set of ZOS approved mods to simply link in, A WHQL for Zos as it were!
Speaking of Interfaces, is it not about time you upgraded from the early FSR & DLSS to something newer? I understand that you have user base system constraints to bear in mind, but giving the option of FSR 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 and the associated DLSS variants, would be appreciated by a lot of people for better performance (frame generation might even give some of us NON PVP players a little edge in the PVP events lmao)
I'm going to address those 3 things, as I don't wholly disagree with the rest of what you said, even if it was a touch ranty. Context: I have visual problems, and actual physical pain when exposed to sudden bright bursts, and I also write my own addons.
ZOS have already stated they are working on a set of sliders to turn down visual effects. We haven't had an update in a while but it is coming.
"MOD Robbery" implies the addon authors own their addons. They don't. ZOS retain all rights to the code, as it is their API, while passing all liabilities onto the author and user.
Performance and frame generation are not the same thing. FSR 4 for example has better frame generation but underperforms compared to FSR 3. And not for nothing, but if you have a card capable of running FSR 4 you shouldn't be getting performance issues in ESO that is tied to the lack of an upscaler, unless you are trying to run the game at 120+ fps in 4k, while using the game's native upscaler. The performance issue experienced in Cyrodiil are not client side problems.
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JimFord047✭✭✭✭Agreed Performance and Frames are not the same thing, But they are tied! I have an EVGA RTX 2080 Super and although it performs well enough, the wives EVGA RTX 3080 Super FTW3 leaves it sitting in a lot of things. (as it should). Using Frame Generation would allow the card to Process at 1080 upscale to 4K , and give a Percived Boost, although its not! it only looks faster!
But My liquid cooled 7900XTX does leave both of them in the dust, unless its a full Ray Trace game or application, then the Tensor Cores on even the RTX 2080 com into thier own, The Frame Generation, does once more give the Apperance of a better performance, but as you implied at a cost elsewhere. From my point of view ESO at 120FPS on a 55" Screen does not need frame generation, in fact mines is capped at 60FPS!
My Gist was that with the MAD/ Nvidia options, people could find ways of improving thier experience with little or No cash outlay, and in these days , thats a MUST!
(Cyro was sarcasim lol , I do not live long enough to worry about frame rates, but if i can get in between real frames, i might get one or 2 hits in before i die lol)
I get the sudden bright lights bit, same here, my thoughts would be a RED light which is easier on my eyes, but higher / wider.
Yes its ranty! but from little acrons Big trees Grow
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