[Question] [Naj-Caldeesh] [First Boss] How to avoid wipe mechanism?

AvalonRanger · October 23

[Question] [Naj-Caldeesh] [First Boss] How to avoid wipe mechanism?

I tested in normal difficulty

1. Destroying necromantic totem decrease area damage?

>DPS must destroy every totem before wipe?
>Or, it's just ghost add spawner?

2. Is that sharing damage among players, or direct damage?

>Run with 4 players --> could survive even totem still exist.
(My tank got quite small damage, but DPS dead, or DPS got huge damage.)

>Run with 2 players --> couldn't survive with totem exist. WIPE

So, what is best tactics to avoid wipe?

Soarora · October 23

The more totems are up, the more damage the burst does. I don’t know about normal but on vet you can survive maybe one or two totems being up. HM I think they all need to be dead.

I wouldn’t think its sharing the damage, I’ve not tested but I’d think it’s just directly related to the amount of totems.

tomfant · October 23

Destroy all totems before the explosion happens.

AvalonRanger · October 23

So, this mech is DPS role checker.

Dagoth_Rac · October 23

AvalonRanger wrote: »

So, this mech is DPS role checker.

Well, yes and no. ESO is designed for all members of the group to have a big impact on DPS. Even at endgame, with world-class DPS players, you are not clearing anything if Tank/Healer are not providing lots of group buffs and enemy debuffs and with high uptime on those buffs/debuffs. So DPS checks need to be a full team effort.

tomfant · October 23

Also, don't go too fast or you'll get too many totems. Ignore everything else and focus them down every time they spawn.

PeacefulAnarchy · October 24

AvalonRanger wrote: »

So, this mech is DPS role checker.

No, totems spawn on percentages, and the big damage is at a further percentage. You can take forever to clear them as long as you actually clear them and don't keep pushing the boss. I don't know if the ghosts keep spawning, so I guess they might be a dps check?

AvalonRanger · October 24

Honestly say, I'm bit confused for this boss mechanism.

In normal difficulty.

I've never seen normal pug people who can do this mechanism properly.
Most of normal pug DPS or healer are fake, and they couldn't notice
that totem mech. (too much low DPS, no healing)

However...

If I have 4 player as tank, wipe never happen even ignore totem,
But in 2 player, mostly wipe.

So, I thought that mechanism is sharing damage like trial yellow circle.
Or, floor pressure plate has something relationship with wipe mechanism?

AvalonRanger · October 24

ZOS made training zone before this first boss. That's good!

But, it just explain about ghost spawner function of totem.
They never show us wipe function at all until we actually engage the boss.

I hate this type of game design.

AvalonRanger · October 24

There're other mystery here.

The player automatically walk into trap pressure plate.
This mech happen occasionally, but I couldn't find out
what kind of mech become trigger of this.

AvalonRanger · October 24

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

So, this mech is DPS role checker.

Well, yes and no. ESO is designed for all members of the group to have a big impact on DPS. Even at endgame, with world-class DPS players, you are not clearing anything if Tank/Healer are not providing lots of group buffs and enemy debuffs and with high uptime on those buffs/debuffs. So DPS checks need to be a full team effort.

"So DPS checks need to be a full team effort"

I knew it, but ... most of random normal pug healer is fake.
Even skillful DPS can't do decent job because of fake healer.
(and fake tank also)

Soarora · October 24

AvalonRanger wrote: »

There're other mystery here.

The player automatically walk into trap pressure plate.
This mech happen occasionally, but I couldn't find out
what kind of mech become trigger of this.

If someone steps on a pressure plate, the walls start shooting fire at people. It's not particularly deadly just not ideal since it does damage.

AvalonRanger · October 24

Soarora wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

There're other mystery here.

The player automatically walk into trap pressure plate.
This mech happen occasionally, but I couldn't find out
what kind of mech become trigger of this.

If someone steps on a pressure plate, the walls start shooting fire at people. It's not particularly deadly just not ideal since it does damage.

Yea I know that. Thanks for replying.
But I saw more astonishing trap(or crazy?) at the first boss room.

When I was tanking in front of the boss. Suddenly something trap take my character's
control, and let my character walk into trap pressure plate. I couldn't control at all until
player step on the yellow glowing effect trap plate.

Have you ever caught by such a trap? ...or bug?

Soarora · October 24

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

There're other mystery here.

The player automatically walk into trap pressure plate.
This mech happen occasionally, but I couldn't find out
what kind of mech become trigger of this.

If someone steps on a pressure plate, the walls start shooting fire at people. It's not particularly deadly just not ideal since it does damage.

Yea I know that. Thanks for replying.
But I saw more astonishing trap(or crazy?) at the first boss room.

When I was tanking in front of the boss. Suddenly something trap take my character's
control, and let my character walk into trap pressure plate. I couldn't control at all until
player step on the yellow glowing effect trap plate.

Have you ever caught by such a trap? ...or bug?

Ahh okay, sorry, I didn’t see the automatically part of your previous statement. When a ghost that’s chasing you makes contact with you, it fears you, forcing you to run away until you break free. Nothing to do with the plates except for the fact that you’ll probably trigger one unless you break free fast enough. The slippery cp in the red tree would be good for this fight.

AvalonRanger · October 24

Soarora wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

There're other mystery here.

The player automatically walk into trap pressure plate.
This mech happen occasionally, but I couldn't find out
what kind of mech become trigger of this.

If someone steps on a pressure plate, the walls start shooting fire at people. It's not particularly deadly just not ideal since it does damage.

Yea I know that. Thanks for replying.
But I saw more astonishing trap(or crazy?) at the first boss room.

When I was tanking in front of the boss. Suddenly something trap take my character's
control, and let my character walk into trap pressure plate. I couldn't control at all until
player step on the yellow glowing effect trap plate.

Have you ever caught by such a trap? ...or bug?

Ahh okay, sorry, I didn’t see the automatically part of your previous statement. When a ghost that’s chasing you makes contact with you, it fears you, forcing you to run away until you break free. Nothing to do with the plates except for the fact that you’ll probably trigger one unless you break free fast enough. The slippery cp in the red tree would be good for this fight.

Thanks Soarora, this is great helpful for me.