Vale of Revelry - Detection Bug

MoonPile

Hiya, I reported this back on U46 PTS also. I think this happens in a few other delves too, though I don't remember which atm.

You get detected in sneak even when you should not be, ESPECIALLY when there are no enemies nearby.

When I finally enter mobs' normal detection / attack radius, my stealth was already previously broken by being detected by nothing – as in the screenshot.
Update: I do not think this is related to the detection radius of any mob (even if it were oversized) because Detection occurs in empty space even if enemies are dead & despawned.

For those of us who play sneaky-style, it's a nuisance to do the daily for this delve. My characters are geared to not be detected even if I'm standing directly in front of an enemy, so it makes no sense that some mysterious, invisible all-seeing-eyeball is making us detectable to trash mobs meters away.

Aylish

Some of the mobs are detecting you even in cloak, which should definitely not happen! It‘s only in that delve and only holds for some of the mobs.

MoonPile

Right, thing is this happens even when you're nowhere near a mob. In the screenshot in OP, even if I stood up, nothing would attack since there's nothing nearby TO detect me.

(It also doesn't make sense their detection radius is enormous, unless that can be larger than a separate "attack radius", if it is coded that way – again, since nothing would attack.) I do not think this is related to any mob / radius. See update in OP.

But albeit rare, some other delves have this problem too. For example one in the Deadlands; IIRC it was Brandfire Reformatory, not sure.

Elsewhere, I've seen occasional NPCs who have Detection capacity but shouldn't – like some mudcrabs. It makes me wonder if they forgot a bunch of detecting mudcrabs underground all throughout this delve. >_>)

Aylish

I never had such an issue in Deadlands delves when I were there (which is quite some time ago when I actually needed to go there for Fargrave dailies).

I don‘t think it‘s a problem with detection radius because they even see me when I‘m invisible (through NB cloak or vampire passive) but with ignoring the „being hidden“ mechanic completely.

katanagirl1

I forgot to report this happening. It is the Blood Mage type enemies or another one with Blood in the name that pull you out of stealth. They must be a new type of npc that has not been coded properly, the others don’t pull you out of stealth.

MoonPile

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I forgot to report this happening. It is the Blood Mage type enemies or another one with Blood in the name that pull you out of stealth. They must be a new type of npc that has not been coded properly, the others don’t pull you out of stealth.

After running it repeatedly this weekend, I think you're right. And if so, these Blood enemies Detection radius is way larger than their apparently-separate aggro / attack radius. To the degree that it seems like nothing is detecting – e.g. still detected even if any mobs in the vicinity are dead / despawned. But there's probably actually a Blood mage in the distance.

EDIT:

Happened again today so I was trying to see who's responsible, at least in this area because the enemies normally here were already dead, and despawned, and it wasn't the spider's fault:



So I tried killing this Xivilai Blood Ravager who was super far away, well beyond aggro radius:




Indeed it was him
But yeah there are some different ones all throughout who have this problem, not only Blood Mage

katanagirl1

MoonPile wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I forgot to report this happening. It is the Blood Mage type enemies or another one with Blood in the name that pull you out of stealth. They must be a new type of npc that has not been coded properly, the others don’t pull you out of stealth.

After running it repeatedly this weekend, I think you're right. And if so, these Blood enemies Detection radius is way larger than their apparently-separate aggro / attack radius. To the degree that it seems like nothing is detecting – e.g. still detected even if any mobs in the vicinity are dead / despawned. But there's probably actually a Blood mage in the distance.

EDIT:

Happened again today so I was trying to see who's responsible, at least in this area because the enemies normally here were already dead, and despawned, and it wasn't the spider's fault:



So I tried killing this Xivilai Blood Ravager who was super far away, well beyond aggro radius:




Indeed it was him
But yeah there are some different ones all throughout who have this problem, not only Blood Mage

There was a case back in Blackwood where some of the enemies Xi-Tsei delve did not respect stealth, seems like this is the same.