Why is only 1 dolmen in Cyrodiil up at a time?

Cooperharley · May 27

This is such a painful experience trying to complete all dark anchors in Cyrodiil. This place is enormous. Why on earth can only 1 of these be up? It's a tiny event. They should all be spawning in as you arrive and then have like a 10-15min respawn time.

Sordidfairytale · May 27

Molag Bal has nothing but time.

Syldras · May 27

Do you know how complicated it is logistically to have a continuous flow of cultists and human sacifices, especially since the Worm Cult has been defeated 10 years ago?

SilverBride · May 27

That is the way the Dolmens work in all of the zones. It's the same with Geysers, Harrowstorms, Vents and Incursions, too. One up at a time per zone.

Cooperharley · May 27

SilverBride wrote: »

That is the way the Dolmens work in all of the zones. It's the same with Geysers, Harrowstorms, Vents and Incursions, too. One up at a time per zone.

I understand that...

I'm saying for cyrodiil specifically with how big it is, it would be nice and make more sense to make them function differently..

Veinblood1965 · May 27

Syldras wrote: »

Do you know how complicated it is logistically to have a continuous flow of cultists and human sacifices, especially since the Worm Cult has been defeated 10 years ago?

It's really amazing even one is up ever really.

Syldras · May 27

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

Do you know how complicated it is logistically to have a continuous flow of cultists and human sacifices, especially since the Worm Cult has been defeated 10 years ago?

It's really amazing even one is up ever really.

By now I fully believe they're not actually Worm Cultists anymore, but just LARPers who take their LARPing very seriously.

soelslaev · May 27

Cooperharley wrote: »

I understand that...

I should not laugh, because I hate when it happens to me, but what are people thinking with that kind of response? LOL

System A does things using Process X.

Person 1 says: System A should do Process Y instead.

Person 2 says: System A does Process X.

Like, it’s not even a response really because the assertion of person 2 is the underlying premise of what person 1 said.

Can you imagine our ancient ancestors going up against people like this?

“I kept warm last night sleeping next to a burning log.”

“We sleep in cold dark cave.”

Oh, also, I’m totally against your idea of multiple dolmens in Cyrodiil. LOL. Sorry.

Why? Because I love the long rides in Cyrodiil. I love PVE in Cyrodiil because of the space between things. I don’t want you amusement park types ruining my epic adventures.

katanagirl1 · May 27

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Cooperharley · May 27

soelslaev wrote: »
Cooperharley wrote: »

I understand that...

I should not laugh, because I hate when it happens to me, but what are people thinking with that kind of response? LOL
System A does things using Process X.

Person 1 says: System A should do Process Y instead.

Person 2 says: System A does Process X.
Like, it’s not even a response really because the assertion of person 2 is the underlying premise of what person 1 said.

Can you imagine our ancient ancestors going up against people like this?
“I kept warm last night sleeping next to a burning log.”

“We sleep in cold dark cave.”
Oh, also, I’m totally against your idea of multiple dolmens in Cyrodiil. LOL. Sorry.

Why? Because I love the long rides in Cyrodiil. I love PVE in Cyrodiil because of the space between things. I don’t want you amusement park types ruining my epic adventures.

You enjoy the running simulator? Wild XD

SeaGtGruff · May 27

One possibility might be to divide the Cyrodiil dolmens into three groups based on each alliance's "native" territory, such that each third of Cyrodiil could have its own active dolmen. That would be three dolmens for two areas and four for the other, so it would be comparable to the base game zones.

SpiritKitten · May 27

Cooperharley wrote: »
soelslaev wrote: »
Cooperharley wrote: »

I understand that...

I should not laugh, because I hate when it happens to me, but what are people thinking with that kind of response? LOL
System A does things using Process X.

Person 1 says: System A should do Process Y instead.

Person 2 says: System A does Process X.
Like, it’s not even a response really because the assertion of person 2 is the underlying premise of what person 1 said.

Can you imagine our ancient ancestors going up against people like this?
“I kept warm last night sleeping next to a burning log.”

“We sleep in cold dark cave.”
Oh, also, I’m totally against your idea of multiple dolmens in Cyrodiil. LOL. Sorry.

Why? Because I love the long rides in Cyrodiil. I love PVE in Cyrodiil because of the space between things. I don’t want you amusement park types ruining my epic adventures.
You enjoy the running simulator? Wild XD

I love it too.

SilverBride · May 27

Cooperharley wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

That is the way the Dolmens work in all of the zones. It's the same with Geysers, Harrowstorms, Vents and Incursions, too. One up at a time per zone.

I understand that...

I'm saying for cyrodiil specifically with how big it is, it would be nice and make more sense to make them function differently..

Maybe they could have one dolmen active for each alliance, for a total of three.

MasterSpatula · May 28

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

katanagirl1 · May 28

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Grec1a · May 28

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

I did the achievement solo a couple of months ago (Ravenwatch, off-peak hours). I set aside enough time to do all the dolmens in one go, so I wasn't doubling up completing ones I'd already done, and picked a time when my Alliance owned most of the map. With nobody else doing the dolmens, it was pretty easy to clear one, port to IC, port back to Cyrodiil, check the wayshrine for the next active one and ride on out. It took a while, but was pretty painless

SeaGtGruff · May 28

katanagirl1 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Can't you just set your map filters to show the dolmens? I know I always see things like dolmens, skyshards, delves, etc. on my map of Cyrodiil, regardless of whether I'm using the normal wayshrine to leave Cyrodiil, using the transitus shrine network to fast travel to an accessible friendly keep, or just using my map to see what's going on. Addendum: Each of those types of map has its own set of filters, so you need to set them on each type of map.

Desiato · May 28

Not only is it the way dolmens now work, but Cyrodiil is also infamous for crippling server-side performance issues.

So having more active dolmens that the vast majority of Cyrodilic players couldn't care less about wouldn't make any sense. Keep in mind they removed critters from Cyrodiil to help improve performance. Every bit matters there.

katanagirl1 · May 28

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Can't you just set your map filters to show the dolmens? I know I always see things like dolmens, skyshards, delves, etc. on my map of Cyrodiil, regardless of whether I'm using the normal wayshrine to leave Cyrodiil, using the transitus shrine network to fast travel to an accessible friendly keep, or just using my map to see what's going on. Addendum: Each of those types of map has its own set of filters, so you need to set them on each type of map.

We don’t have map filters on console.

SeaGtGruff · May 28

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Can't you just set your map filters to show the dolmens? I know I always see things like dolmens, skyshards, delves, etc. on my map of Cyrodiil, regardless of whether I'm using the normal wayshrine to leave Cyrodiil, using the transitus shrine network to fast travel to an accessible friendly keep, or just using my map to see what's going on. Addendum: Each of those types of map has its own set of filters, so you need to set them on each type of map.

We don’t have map filters on console.

Oh, wow, that stinks! Hopefully you'll be able to use a good map addon once those become possible on console.

Thumbless_Bot · May 28

SilverBride wrote: »

That is the way the Dolmens work in all of the zones. It's the same with Geysers, Harrowstorms, Vents and Incursions, too. One up at a time per zone.

Not dragons... which is an incursion.

Veinblood1965 · May 28

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Can't you just set your map filters to show the dolmens? I know I always see things like dolmens, skyshards, delves, etc. on my map of Cyrodiil, regardless of whether I'm using the normal wayshrine to leave Cyrodiil, using the transitus shrine network to fast travel to an accessible friendly keep, or just using my map to see what's going on. Addendum: Each of those types of map has its own set of filters, so you need to set them on each type of map.

We don’t have map filters on console.

That is incorrect. You have to go to the map then I think there is what looks like tabs on the top left(not playing right now) there are filter options. You have to have visited the dolmens for them to show up just like PVE. Once you have you can see which one is active just like in PVE. The trick is to try different servers to see if your faction has a lot of the keeps so you can just port to the keep that is near an active dolmen. Most things are turned off by default so you have to toggle them on.

SilverBride · May 28

Thumbless_Bot wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

That is the way the Dolmens work in all of the zones. It's the same with Geysers, Harrowstorms, Vents and Incursions, too. One up at a time per zone.

Not dragons... which is an incursion.

I don't remember seeing more than one dragon up in the same zone at the same time, but then I don't actively pursue fighting them.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · May 28

Cooperharley wrote: »

This is such a painful experience trying to complete all dark anchors in Cyrodiil. This place is enormous. Why on earth can only 1 of these be up? It's a tiny event. They should all be spawning in as you arrive and then have like a 10-15min respawn time.

Performance. It used to lag even worse then multiple dark anchors spawned.

soelslaev · May 28

Cooperharley wrote: »

You enjoy the running simulator? Wild XD

Absolutely. The article is difficult to find because the search results are polluted with articles explaining neurotransmitters released from exercise, but, the mere act of watching scenery passing by also releases feel-good neurotransmitters. But that is just one thing.

It just feels more delightful and special to run across the small things out in the wilds when they are separated by longer distances. The distance enhances the feeling of exploration and adventure. It is why, in real life, hiking a trail in an isolated nature preserve has different feel from a hike thru the suburbs.

There are a few delve-level bosses out in the wilds of Cyrodiil in completely unmarked places. And very good short stories, too. By short stories, I mean, small scenes that when interacted with, tell a brief story. In fact, one of the best love stories in all of ESO is just north of Fort Aleswell.

SwimsWithMemes · May 28

They all spawn in order left-to-right, except for the one in the town which is last in the cycle.

Ishtarknows · May 28

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Can't you just set your map filters to show the dolmens? I know I always see things like dolmens, skyshards, delves, etc. on my map of Cyrodiil, regardless of whether I'm using the normal wayshrine to leave Cyrodiil, using the transitus shrine network to fast travel to an accessible friendly keep, or just using my map to see what's going on. Addendum: Each of those types of map has its own set of filters, so you need to set them on each type of map.

We don’t have map filters on console.

We do. (On Xbox anyway). Bring up your map press Y (top of the 4 buttons on controller - triangle I think) then RB 3 times to filters. Then click everything. All the places your character has been will be viewable on the map.

Thumbless_Bot · May 28

SilverBride wrote: »

Thumbless_Bot wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

That is the way the Dolmens work in all of the zones. It's the same with Geysers, Harrowstorms, Vents and Incursions, too. One up at a time per zone.

Not dragons... which is an incursion.

I don't remember seeing more than one dragon up in the same zone at the same time, but then I don't actively pursue fighting them.

They are. It's annoying when you are farming. It's like, hey, let's do this together then everyone wins.

SilverBride · May 28

Thumbless_Bot wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Thumbless_Bot wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

That is the way the Dolmens work in all of the zones. It's the same with Geysers, Harrowstorms, Vents and Incursions, too. One up at a time per zone.

Not dragons... which is an incursion.

I don't remember seeing more than one dragon up in the same zone at the same time, but then I don't actively pursue fighting them.

They are. It's annoying when you are farming. It's like, hey, let's do this together then everyone wins.

I'll pay attention to that the next time I am in Elsweyr!

katanagirl1 · May 29

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Can't you just set your map filters to show the dolmens? I know I always see things like dolmens, skyshards, delves, etc. on my map of Cyrodiil, regardless of whether I'm using the normal wayshrine to leave Cyrodiil, using the transitus shrine network to fast travel to an accessible friendly keep, or just using my map to see what's going on. Addendum: Each of those types of map has its own set of filters, so you need to set them on each type of map.

We don’t have map filters on console.

That is incorrect. You have to go to the map then I think there is what looks like tabs on the top left(not playing right now) there are filter options. You have to have visited the dolmens for them to show up just like PVE. Once you have you can see which one is active just like in PVE. The trick is to try different servers to see if your faction has a lot of the keeps so you can just port to the keep that is near an active dolmen. Most things are turned off by default so you have to toggle them on.

I don’t think of this as map filters. When I discover stuff it shows up on map. How is that a filter?

katanagirl1 · May 29

Ishtarknows wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It didn’t used to be this way, until they imposed a specific rotation in base game zones.

Yeah, and they definitely should have left Cyrodiil alone when they did this update. I finished this achievement probably eight or nine years ago, and boy, I'm glad I never had to do it the current way.

I did too. It is still possible to do it now but not solo. Somebody’s got to be back where you can see the map at the base and tell which dolmen is active.

Can't you just set your map filters to show the dolmens? I know I always see things like dolmens, skyshards, delves, etc. on my map of Cyrodiil, regardless of whether I'm using the normal wayshrine to leave Cyrodiil, using the transitus shrine network to fast travel to an accessible friendly keep, or just using my map to see what's going on. Addendum: Each of those types of map has its own set of filters, so you need to set them on each type of map.

We don’t have map filters on console.

We do. (On Xbox anyway). Bring up your map press Y (top of the 4 buttons on controller - triangle I think) then RB 3 times to filters. Then click everything. All the places your character has been will be viewable on the map.

Is this just for Cyrodiil?