West Weald Treasure Map Leads are Bugged

Asdara · May 12

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/677616/antiquities-codex-complete

Someone just got all the leads. He needed around 350 maps to finish those leads.
Maybe you could ask him about strategies there. On the first sight it looks like he didn't excavated any leads, where he got 3 entries already.

I've already talked with them on an older post about the same subject, and yes indeed it needed around 350/400 maps to get this lead, which again is absolutely mental if intended. he had to keep the purple tree lead unscryed/unexcavated otherwise nothing else would drop, thus proving AGAIN thats its a bug

RealLoveBVB · May 12

Asdara wrote: »

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/677616/antiquities-codex-complete

Someone just got all the leads. He needed around 350 maps to finish those leads.
Maybe you could ask him about strategies there. On the first sight it looks like he didn't excavated any leads, where he got 3 entries already.

I've already talked with them on an older post about the same subject, and yes indeed it needed around 350/400 maps to get this lead, which again is absolutely mental if intended. he had to keep the purple tree lead unscryed/unexcavated otherwise nothing else would drop, thus proving AGAIN thats its a bug

350 maps to finish all 30 leads is actually pretty less. That's 12 maps for each lead on average. There are worse leads, like the 300 coldharbor chests for all 3 entries for example. That's 100 tries for each lead on average.

To leave other leads unexcavated was just a theory. I tested it myself on high isle and deadland treasure map leads and as someone posted above: You cant force leads with it. So you can also just excavate everything till all leads dropped.

Asdara · May 13

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

i'm well above 300 maps for a single specific lead in west weald, i really struggle to believe it only took only 300 for every lead x3

MoonPile · May 15

Agree; I used significantly fewer maps than OP, but compared to other zones, WW drops during that event were not good.

But there's also a second problem: Even if you complete the antiquity, you may not be able to buy it.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/677582/antiquities-are-missing-from-their-vendors-for-2-3-years

Asdara · June 17

fix this pls

Asdara · June 26

@ZOS_Kevin could we get infos on this issue? thank you

Thumbless_Bot · September 12

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just wanted to follow up here. Our teams are still looking into this. We tested on PC and leads are dropping, specifically with West Weald treasure maps on the live server. So we are not seeing an issue there. Still investigating.

I think the issue is specific to second and potentially third drops of leads, except the grand tree lead, which drops a lot. I have 14 of these myself.

I used IA to grab 7 maps at a time. Thie first seven gave me six leads. I had every lead found via treasure maps my the second batch of 7 maps. I excavated all leads. These were all my first instances of leads outside of THE TREE.

Since then I have done 8 batches of 7 leads. Meaning I opened 56 treasure maps. I have gotten the tree again and one green lead.

Something is up with subsequent leads. Can we please test for this or confirm that this is the desired behavior by zos? 1 lead ( not counting that tree ) in 56 treasure maps is terrible and the likelihood that this is bad rng is exceedingly low.

@ZOS_Kevin

Im up to 63 treasure maps now with one 'second' lead. 63 treasure maps with 11 available leads is not rng
Something is definitely wrong with subsequent leads.

Can I get a refund on my archival fortunes while we're at it?

Thumbless_Bot · September 13

Thumbless_Bot wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just wanted to follow up here. Our teams are still looking into this. We tested on PC and leads are dropping, specifically with West Weald treasure maps on the live server. So we are not seeing an issue there. Still investigating.

I think the issue is specific to second and potentially third drops of leads, except the grand tree lead, which drops a lot. I have 14 of these myself.

I used IA to grab 7 maps at a time. Thie first seven gave me six leads. I had every lead found via treasure maps my the second batch of 7 maps. I excavated all leads. These were all my first instances of leads outside of THE TREE.

Since then I have done 8 batches of 7 leads. Meaning I opened 56 treasure maps. I have gotten the tree again and one green lead.

Something is up with subsequent leads. Can we please test for this or confirm that this is the desired behavior by zos? 1 lead ( not counting that tree ) in 56 treasure maps is terrible and the likelihood that this is bad rng is exceedingly low.

@ZOS_Kevin

Im up to 63 treasure maps now with one 'second' lead. 63 treasure maps with 11 available leads is not rng
Something is definitely wrong with subsequent leads.

Can I get a refund on my archival fortunes while we're at it?

Just an update here. I am now 70 treasure maps into finding the second round if leads with one green to show for it...

It would be nice to know the free beta testing your paying customer base to zero in on a big in your game is being acknowledged by the software company youre offering your free time to. Just sayin... this and the 140k archival fortunes i have spent is worth that.

Thumbless_Bot · September 17

@ZOS_Kevin

Is there any way you can share the drop chances for first, second and third drops of an item? Also, can you confirm that chances are pooled, meaning I have a chance to get A lead, and then rng will random determine which lead? Does quality of the lead factor in?

We are all playing the game tey8ng to get leads and it would be very nice to know our efforts are not wasted.

jle30303 · September 18

It is in fact a very noticeable thing, not just in West Weald but even with some base game antiquities, that second and third drops of the same lead are FAR rarer than the first.

An example - from one of the original set - is the Auri-El one in Western Skyrim (to be found in Blackreach). It's rare enough even the first time, but almost impossible to get a second time.

Ditto the moons blessed pool in South Elsweyr, the one whose lead apparently only drops from urns.

And we don't even ask about leads from maps in Necrom and West Weald. (I couldn't say about Solstice because I've *never* had a Solstice treasure map at all yet.)