Ulfsild's Contingency - growing impact bug - MAJOR AFFIXES NOT WORKING

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I'd really like a fix to this bug, I find it very annoying for my small groups.

YandereGirlfriend

I've gone through a recent raid's footage and found over 30 visually confirmed instances of my Immobilize Banner Bearer affix breaking and letting through an Immobilize or Snare (mostly Immobilizes).

I'll publish the video when it's done rendering.

ForumSavant

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hello! Following up again, we’ve done some testing using combinations of Ulfsild's Contingency, the Damage Shield Focus script, and the Growing Impact Signature script. What we are seeing is that any of the "Grants Minor..." Affix scripts (as opposed to "Afflicts Minor..." or "Grants you Major...") is granting some variation of Warding Contingency.

We then cast Warding Contingency, shield bash a target to proc the ability, and then either had a group member within the AoE to pick up the Minor buff, or had them start outside of the AoE and then walk in to pick up the Minor buff. In all our test cases, we are seeing Minor buffs apply normally to group members.

Are you seeing something different? If so, could you provide details on what you are observing, like how we have here, including where you are seeing different behavior and exactly what Focus/Signature/Affix scripts you are using?

Thank you!

The issue is major buffs not being applied to group members.

YandereGirlfriend

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Thank you, @YandereGirlfriend! Could you send @ZOS_Kevin or I a link to the video? We'll pass it along to aid in investigations.

@code65536 - got it. Thank you for the clarification! Passing this along to the team as well.

I'll post the video here as well for anyone who might be interested and/or to perhaps crowdsource any possible patterns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJaplX5xGJk

More details are in the video description but you can see me taking tons of Immobilizes and Snares while the Banner is visibly up and the Warmage's Defiance countdown (refreshing the damage shield) is active.

You can visibly see the Bombard, Talons, and perhaps the Frost Clench Immobilize animation during Immobilizes as well as the little whirlwind that denotes a Snare (also evidenced by the slow movement speed).

Synapsis123

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey all, following up here on a few things reported in this thread.

For the Immobilize Focus issue, we've investigated this in the past and were unable to reproduce the issue internally. If you're able to provide any additional details, it may help us do so.

For the Cavalier Charge, we have a fix for the issue where Banner Bearer, when paired with the Cavalier's Charge Signature, would produce an incorrect amount of Weapon and Spell Damage. With the fix, it will grant its listed amount instead of a percentage amount. This fix is going out with the next incremental patch for PC, and will be in the first incremental patch for consoles.

For Ulfsild's Contingency, the team is requesting more information on what seems bugged or has changed. In looking at the tooltip for the Brutality and Sorcery Affix Script for Ulfsild's Contingency, it says "Grants you Major Brutality and Major Sorcery for 10 seconds, increasing Weapon and Spell Damage by 20%."

Did we miss anything in this thread? Let us know. Thank you all!

In the previous patch the major buffs applied to allies. The wording even says it should apply to allies, but growing impact and the support buffs don't apply the major buffs. The tooltips are almost irrelevant because you have two tooltips on the ability that contradict each other. The intention is what matters. It seems like these buffs should be applying to allies. The interaction with growing impact is super buggy too. If an ally is standing in your growing impact that grants major brutality and you aren't in your own growing impact circle it will still constantly refresh your brutality. It seems like it should be granting the ally the buff, but something got messed up around the time the changes were made to banner bearer. The minor buffs still seems to be working correctly though. If this was intended to be nerfed from being able to be granted to allies then why wasn't it in the patch notes?

ForumSavant

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hello! Following up again, we’ve done some testing using combinations of Ulfsild's Contingency, the Damage Shield Focus script, and the Growing Impact Signature script. What we are seeing is that any of the "Grants Minor..." Affix scripts (as opposed to "Afflicts Minor..." or "Grants you Major...") is granting some variation of Warding Contingency.

We then cast Warding Contingency, shield bash a target to proc the ability, and then either had a group member within the AoE to pick up the Minor buff, or had them start outside of the AoE and then walk in to pick up the Minor buff. In all our test cases, we are seeing Minor buffs apply normally to group members.

Are you seeing something different? If so, could you provide details on what you are observing, like how we have here, including where you are seeing different behavior and exactly what Focus/Signature/Affix scripts you are using?

Thank you!

The tooltips for the scribing abilities has always been the same, growing impact has always been made to apply the affix in AoE and major buffs are not applying to group members at all.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi all, as an update we now have a bug in for the following issue and the fix will go into an upcoming incremental patch (not the very next one, unfortunately.)

Scribing - Banner Bearer - Immobilize: There is an issue where the Snare Immunity from the Immobilize Focus can be removed from the caster.

ForumSavant wrote: »

The tooltips for the scribing abilities has always been the same, growing impact has always been made to apply the affix in AoE and major buffs are not applying to group members at all.

Secondly, regarding the quote above, we asked the team about this and they indicated that while the affix does apply in an area and that is expected, it only applies to the caster and Major Buffs should not apply to group members. They explained further that if there was any point where Ulfsild's Contingency applied a Major Buff to anyone but the caster, that was a bug and not intended to happen.

YandereGirlfriend

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi all, as an update we now have a bug in for the following issue and the fix will go into an upcoming incremental patch (not the very next one, unfortunately.)

Scribing - Banner Bearer - Immobilize: There is an issue where the Snare Immunity from the Immobilize Focus can be removed from the caster.

ForumSavant wrote: »

The tooltips for the scribing abilities has always been the same, growing impact has always been made to apply the affix in AoE and major buffs are not applying to group members at all.

Secondly, regarding the quote above, we asked the team about this and they indicated that while the affix does apply in an area and that is expected, it only applies to the caster and Major Buffs should not apply to group members. They explained further that if there was any point where Ulfsild's Contingency applied a Major Buff to anyone but the caster, that was a bug and not intended to happen.

This is welcome news! Thanks so much for your work on this!

I just want to triple-check though that the bugfix is for Snare AND Immobilization immunity, right? Because both are broken but the posted language only explicitly mentions Snares.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

This is welcome news! Thanks so much for your work on this!

I just want to triple-check though that the bugfix is for Snare AND Immobilization immunity, right? Because both are broken but the posted language only explicitly mentions Snares.

Thanks for the follow-up question. We confirmed with the team here who has been working on the fix that it will cover immunity for both snares and immobilizations.

Synapsis123

Is that bugfix going to fix the snow treaders mythic as well? Snow treaders is notorious for breaking after taking a res or taking a camp in cyrodiil. The only way to fix it is to get out of combat and take them off and put them back on. Lately in this patch they have been breaking in combat without dying at all. It may be the same issue as the banner bearer script.