Is the lord hollowjack bust an RNG drop?

CoronHR · October 29

Note: I'm referring to the BUST, not the TROPHY. I have the trophy already, which drops after your 1st fight.

The bust though ... these busts usually drop from Vet content, but this bust is different. It randomly drops from the boss. At least I think so -- is this correct?

And does anyone have it? Did it drop on like a no-death run? Were there many people in your group?

I've yet to drop it, and I've done maybe 10 lord hollowjack runs. So, maybe I just need to keep trying?

fizl101 · October 29

Yes its RNG, I don't have it but I have seen people get it on runs that haven't been no death

CoronHR · October 29

ok. well i'm running it several times. hopefully i'll get lucky. i have every bust in the game, will be annoyed if i miss this one!

Sindarin · October 29

i run today 10 times, i died i didnt die, no one in my group died, yet no bust. rng just and only, in this game always was the worst part of it.

frogthroat · October 29

I got it on my 4th run. It wasn't a special run. It wasn't any different from the previous 3. Well, except the first one was the first one where I got the trophy. So it seems to be just rng.

And although I have it already, I agree: busts should not be rng. That should be something you earn. This bust doesn't feel any special now. It was a random drop. And had I missed it, there would be one missing from the collection. Missing a trophy/bust in your collection because of timing or bad rng is not a really fun thing.

NaluHays · October 30

I had been farming the boss a little bit, because I wanted the bust. As I did not get it in the last days of trying, I tested something today. In another post, someone said that they got it through a 12-player quest rotation, so...

Today, I ran it about 8-10 times, forming the group and entering with less than 8 players. The bust didn't come up ONCE in any of those runs.
Then, I ran it three times with 9+ groups. Every single one of those three times, one person got the bust. The last time, we were 12, and two people got the bust (one was me)...

In theory, the more people you have, the more difficult the fight is (resources drain + lanterns), so maybe it is indeed associated with difficulty? When you run it in the highest difficulty (9-12 people), you are guaranteed one drop?

You can also get it solo, but in my experience, the drop is not guaranteed then (I ran more than 20 hjs in the last days with less than 8 people, and most times didn't see anyone get the drop). It could also be true RNG and me finding patterns where there are none... but worth to try maybe?

Soarora · October 30

I got it on my 3rd Hollowjack run, which was also the one with the biggest group (other two runs were about half full, I think third run was only missing 2 people). I also only died once and it was to someone else being spotted and Hollowjack running through me to get to them.

CoronHR · October 30

i've done multiple runs of all shapes and sizes. trying to do 12 player runs to see if that makes a difference. i've done 2-3 so far, plus about 20 others with smaller numbers of players. nothing. totally sucks

Necrotech_Master · October 30

i got the bust on my 7th kill on like day 1 or 2 of the event lol

ive also done many different types of runs (solo, 6 person group, 12 person group), doesnt really seem to make a difference how the run went either as far as i can tell

opalcity · October 30

As said elsewhere, I got the bust on the very first day of the event, the first time I fought him. 8 player team, normal difficulty, several deaths, two wipes.

gvgisdi · October 30

Got it on my first run, just me and my friend. I got it, they didn’t. 1 death, me during the crouch phase testing the dps of the bosses damaging aura

DenverRalphy · October 30

NaluHays wrote: »

I had been farming the boss a little bit, because I wanted the bust. As I did not get it in the last days of trying, I tested something today. In another post, someone said that they got it through a 12-player quest rotation, so...

Today, I ran it about 8-10 times, forming the group and entering with less than 8 players. The bust didn't come up ONCE in any of those runs.
Then, I ran it three times with 9+ groups. Every single one of those three times, one person got the bust. The last time, we were 12, and two people got the bust (one was me)...

In theory, the more people you have, the more difficult the fight is (resources drain + lanterns), so maybe it is indeed associated with difficulty? When you run it in the highest difficulty (9-12 people), you are guaranteed one drop?

You can also get it solo, but in my experience, the drop is not guaranteed then (I ran more than 20 hjs in the last days with less than 8 people, and most times didn't see anyone get the drop). It could also be true RNG and me finding patterns where there are none... but worth to try maybe?

I am that player you referenced from the other post. And I did NOT state that running with a 12 person group increases the chances for a drop a single person to get it to drop. I simply laid out a plan of attack to maximize the opportunities to get the drop by only having one person in the group grabbing the quest. We were simply giving players more opporunities for a run at it, not increasing their chances. And the example I used just happened to be a 12 man group that kept rotating guildies through.

12 player groups doesn't increase the drop rate. It's just more likely that somebody in a 12 person group will see a drop than a 4 man group simply due to how many players have a chance at getting it.

Its_MySniff · October 30

I got mine on my first and only run. I was happy to not have to do it again.

CoronHR · October 31

i'm still doing run after run after run, and it doesn't drop. really getting sick of it. i mean, i could just quit, but i have every bust in the game and it's gonna bother me if i'm destined to always be missing one, since it's event only. anyway, guess i'll keep trying, but man i hate this game sometimes.

fizl101 · October 31

I finally got the bust today. I only do the quest once or twice a day, I haven't been farming it

CoronHR · October 31

GOOD NEWS!

it dropped. the run was 8 players. a good run. don't think i died. but i don't think it matters at all. it's just pure rng. ugh

it's now sitting with all the other busts, chilling in my surreal estate gallery

polaris86 · October 31

I’ve fought LHJ once a day for the gold skull and have not looted the bust. I know others that got it on day one, so I’m unlucky I guess.

NaluHays · November 1

DenverRalphy wrote: »

I am that player you referenced from the other post. And I did NOT state that running with a 12 person group increases the chances for a drop a single person to get it to drop. [...]
12 player groups doesn't increase the drop rate. It's just more likely that somebody in a 12 person group will see a drop than a 4 man group simply due to how many players have a chance at getting it.

Didn't say that you said that: "someone said that they got it through a 12-player quest rotation".

This is literally what you said: "One guild I'm in, we just formed a 12 person party where one person picked up the HJ daily, triggered Portal, and afterwards anyone who'd looted the bust picked up the daily quest and triggered the next one. Then would drop group after the next round. Rinse-Repeat. Each round at least one of us would get the bust, and often multiple people would get it."

In my post, I just stated something I observed... and as I said at the end: "It could also be true RNG and me finding patterns where there are none... but worth to try maybe?"

Yes, it's true that "it's just more likely that somebody in a 12 person group will see a drop than a 4 man group simply due to how many players have a chance at getting it.".

We don't have any way of testing it and ESO won't tell us exactly how they set that drop rate, so nothing to lose with trying to run with bigger groups...