[REQUEST] Any Race, Any Alliance Bundle

BelmontDrakul
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After "One Tamriel" update, factionalism in the game lost its value except; Imperial City and Cyrodiil areas. Nowadays, everybody can join every faction's guild. Every faction member travel and discover other factions' regions and even experience their questlines. For this reason, policy about "Any Race, Any Alliance Bundle" should change immediately. I have couple of different ideas.

1- Lower its price to something like 500 Crowns.
2- Transfer it to the endeavor shop from crown shop and make it Apex.
3- Make it totally free for a limited time such as during Christmas or New Year.
4- Make it totally free like you did for Imperial City and Morrowind DLCs.

Imperial race is exception. It is special race and selling it is not wrong. It was originally intended for pre-order customers so; understandable.

I hope you read and think about this.

Thank you, very much.
Edited by ZOS_Icy on 1 November 2024 10:22
MY PERSONAL TES PANTHEON (for now);
Venerated ones;
Azuramara (Syncretic deity {Azura-Mara} of compassion, love and foresight) | Juliomora (Syncretic deity {Julianos-Hermaeus Mora} of knowledge and wisdom)
Jyggalag (Daedric prince of order, chief deity) | Malastenzen (Syncretic deity {Malacath-Stendarr-Zenithar} of oaths, pride, honor, justice and hardworking)
Sotha Sil (Saint of order and craftsmanship) | The Hist (Living deities of natural order)
Condemned ones;
Almalexia | Boethiah | Dibella | Mehrunes Dagon | Mephala | Molag Bal | Namira | Nocturnal | Sanguine | Sheogorath | Vaermina | Vivec
Neither venerated nor condemned ones;
Akatosh | Alduin | Anu | Arkay | Auri-el | Dagoth Ur | Hircine | Ideal Masters | Ithelia | Jephre | Kynareth | Magnus | Meridia | Nerevar | Padomay | Peryite | Reman | Saint Veloth | Shezarr | Talos | Tsun | Ysgramor
  • Danikat
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    I agree that Any Race in Any Alliance doesn't have much value or meaning any more and should be free. I don't think there's any sense in complicating that by making it free under certain conditions if you know when and where to look, I'd just make it an automatic part of the game for everyone, like Morrowind is now.

    (Note: this would not change existing characters. If anyone wanted to change the race or alliance of any of their current characters they'd still have to buy the relevant token, or delete and re-make them, just like it works now if someone buys Any Race in Any Alliance after making characters.)

    Just the upgrade though, the mount and costume and whatever else is currently in the bundle could stay as a crown store pack.

    Background info/disclaimer for people who will want to judge my post based on it: I've had Any Race, Any Alliance since the day I started the game because I got a pre-order copy. I would not benefit from this change. But that also means I didn't pay extra for it, it was just included when I bought the game and at the time it was much more common to meet people who had it than ones who didn't.
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  • Morvan
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    They could also give one Alliance Token for free every Whitestrake's Mayhem, often times I want to group up with my friends to either PvP or help them get their tickets and we can't because their characters are on distinct factions.
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  • BelmontDrakul
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    Morvan wrote: »
    They could also give one Alliance Token for free every Whitestrake's Mayhem, often times I want to group up with my friends to either PvP or help them get their tickets and we can't because their characters are on distinct factions.

    Definitely, agreed. I hope they think about this and make us a pretty suprise before or during Christmas.
    MY PERSONAL TES PANTHEON (for now);
    Venerated ones;
    Azuramara (Syncretic deity {Azura-Mara} of compassion, love and foresight) | Juliomora (Syncretic deity {Julianos-Hermaeus Mora} of knowledge and wisdom)
    Jyggalag (Daedric prince of order, chief deity) | Malastenzen (Syncretic deity {Malacath-Stendarr-Zenithar} of oaths, pride, honor, justice and hardworking)
    Sotha Sil (Saint of order and craftsmanship) | The Hist (Living deities of natural order)
    Condemned ones;
    Almalexia | Boethiah | Dibella | Mehrunes Dagon | Mephala | Molag Bal | Namira | Nocturnal | Sanguine | Sheogorath | Vaermina | Vivec
    Neither venerated nor condemned ones;
    Akatosh | Alduin | Anu | Arkay | Auri-el | Dagoth Ur | Hircine | Ideal Masters | Ithelia | Jephre | Kynareth | Magnus | Meridia | Nerevar | Padomay | Peryite | Reman | Saint Veloth | Shezarr | Talos | Tsun | Ysgramor
  • Theist_VII
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    If anything, locking the Imperial race behind a paywall was the first negative talking point around ESO.

    Any Race, Any Alliance, never should have been a thing, and Imperial should have been the one universal race you could play as, with a much wider spectrum of customization to better represent the race as your standard “Human” choice.
  • TaSheen
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    Theist_VII wrote: »
    If anything, locking the Imperial race behind a paywall was the first negative talking point around ESO.

    Any Race, Any Alliance, never should have been a thing, and Imperial should have been the one universal race you could play as, with a much wider spectrum of customization to better represent the race as your standard “Human” choice.

    This, really. I was pretty shocked when I started playing and realized I had to buy the Imperial Race....
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  • BelmontDrakul
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    I don't know what more I can do to keep the staff's attention this problem really. But; it is rather a disappointment for me not to get an answer, yet.
    MY PERSONAL TES PANTHEON (for now);
    Venerated ones;
    Azuramara (Syncretic deity {Azura-Mara} of compassion, love and foresight) | Juliomora (Syncretic deity {Julianos-Hermaeus Mora} of knowledge and wisdom)
    Jyggalag (Daedric prince of order, chief deity) | Malastenzen (Syncretic deity {Malacath-Stendarr-Zenithar} of oaths, pride, honor, justice and hardworking)
    Sotha Sil (Saint of order and craftsmanship) | The Hist (Living deities of natural order)
    Condemned ones;
    Almalexia | Boethiah | Dibella | Mehrunes Dagon | Mephala | Molag Bal | Namira | Nocturnal | Sanguine | Sheogorath | Vaermina | Vivec
    Neither venerated nor condemned ones;
    Akatosh | Alduin | Anu | Arkay | Auri-el | Dagoth Ur | Hircine | Ideal Masters | Ithelia | Jephre | Kynareth | Magnus | Meridia | Nerevar | Padomay | Peryite | Reman | Saint Veloth | Shezarr | Talos | Tsun | Ysgramor
  • Carlos93
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    The “any race, any alliance” pack should be removed from the Crown Store.

    Choosing an alliance should happen within the game world (such as choosing to join the Undaunted), after completing the creation of a new character.
    The player could choose to do a series of quests to join an alliance in the world.

    When the player is creating a new character, there should be no alliance race restrictions.
    The player should be able to create any character without the restriction of alliances and without needing to purchase the "any race any alliance" package.

    The imperial race should be part of the base races that new players can use to create a new character.

    New races could be sold in the Crown Store for crowns so players can create new characters.

    For example.

    The Maormer race, different types of Khajiites, different types of Argonians, sloads, snow elves, etc.

    ZOS could make a lot more money selling new races to players than keeping the "any race any alliance" pack in the Crown Store.
  • BelmontDrakul
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    Carlos93 wrote: »
    The “any race, any alliance” pack should be removed from the Crown Store.

    Choosing an alliance should happen within the game world (such as choosing to join the Undaunted), after completing the creation of a new character.
    The player could choose to do a series of quests to join an alliance in the world.

    When the player is creating a new character, there should be no alliance race restrictions.
    The player should be able to create any character without the restriction of alliances and without needing to purchase the "any race any alliance" package.

    The imperial race should be part of the base races that new players can use to create a new character.

    New races could be sold in the Crown Store for crowns so players can create new characters.

    For example.

    The Maormer race, different types of Khajiites, different types of Argonians, sloads, snow elves, etc.

    ZOS could make a lot more money selling new races to players than keeping the "any race any alliance" pack in the Crown Store.

    Interesting idea actually.
    MY PERSONAL TES PANTHEON (for now);
    Venerated ones;
    Azuramara (Syncretic deity {Azura-Mara} of compassion, love and foresight) | Juliomora (Syncretic deity {Julianos-Hermaeus Mora} of knowledge and wisdom)
    Jyggalag (Daedric prince of order, chief deity) | Malastenzen (Syncretic deity {Malacath-Stendarr-Zenithar} of oaths, pride, honor, justice and hardworking)
    Sotha Sil (Saint of order and craftsmanship) | The Hist (Living deities of natural order)
    Condemned ones;
    Almalexia | Boethiah | Dibella | Mehrunes Dagon | Mephala | Molag Bal | Namira | Nocturnal | Sanguine | Sheogorath | Vaermina | Vivec
    Neither venerated nor condemned ones;
    Akatosh | Alduin | Anu | Arkay | Auri-el | Dagoth Ur | Hircine | Ideal Masters | Ithelia | Jephre | Kynareth | Magnus | Meridia | Nerevar | Padomay | Peryite | Reman | Saint Veloth | Shezarr | Talos | Tsun | Ysgramor
  • Stafford197
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    Theist_VII wrote: »
    If anything, locking the Imperial race behind a paywall was the first negative talking point around ESO.

    Any Race, Any Alliance, never should have been a thing, and Imperial should have been the one universal race you could play as, with a much wider spectrum of customization to better represent the race as your standard “Human” choice.

    ^^^^ I still remember this being brought up a lot. The fact it’s not free 10 years later is pretty shocking.
  • BelmontDrakul
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    Theist_VII wrote: »
    If anything, locking the Imperial race behind a paywall was the first negative talking point around ESO.

    Any Race, Any Alliance, never should have been a thing, and Imperial should have been the one universal race you could play as, with a much wider spectrum of customization to better represent the race as your standard “Human” choice.

    ^^^^ I still remember this being brought up a lot. The fact it’s not free 10 years later is pretty shocking.

    Well, let's hope this time they care our recommendations and follow a path accordingly.
    Edited by BelmontDrakul on 31 October 2024 04:27
    MY PERSONAL TES PANTHEON (for now);
    Venerated ones;
    Azuramara (Syncretic deity {Azura-Mara} of compassion, love and foresight) | Juliomora (Syncretic deity {Julianos-Hermaeus Mora} of knowledge and wisdom)
    Jyggalag (Daedric prince of order, chief deity) | Malastenzen (Syncretic deity {Malacath-Stendarr-Zenithar} of oaths, pride, honor, justice and hardworking)
    Sotha Sil (Saint of order and craftsmanship) | The Hist (Living deities of natural order)
    Condemned ones;
    Almalexia | Boethiah | Dibella | Mehrunes Dagon | Mephala | Molag Bal | Namira | Nocturnal | Sanguine | Sheogorath | Vaermina | Vivec
    Neither venerated nor condemned ones;
    Akatosh | Alduin | Anu | Arkay | Auri-el | Dagoth Ur | Hircine | Ideal Masters | Ithelia | Jephre | Kynareth | Magnus | Meridia | Nerevar | Padomay | Peryite | Reman | Saint Veloth | Shezarr | Talos | Tsun | Ysgramor
  • fizzylu
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    Whenever I introduced people to ESO this was one of the first turn-offs when it came to the game for the majority of them. They would want to play my faction, but the race they wanted wasn't in it.... so then I'd have to explain they'd have to pay more to play what they want AND with me (for PvP). I think it's been long enough to warrant just making it free from the crown store as a new player starter pack type thing.
  • Danikat
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    I don't know what more I can do to keep the staff's attention this problem really. But; it is rather a disappointment for me not to get an answer, yet.

    You will not get an answer in this thread. The most you might get is one of the forum team saying they'll pass the message along, but they can't promise anything will happen with it because it's not their decision.

    That doesn't mean it won't happen, other suggestions on this forum have made their way into the game, but ZOS never tell us when they're going to use an idea, the first we get to know about it is when it's in the patch notes.
    Carlos93 wrote: »
    The “any race, any alliance” pack should be removed from the Crown Store.

    Choosing an alliance should happen within the game world (such as choosing to join the Undaunted), after completing the creation of a new character.
    The player could choose to do a series of quests to join an alliance in the world.

    When the player is creating a new character, there should be no alliance race restrictions.
    The player should be able to create any character without the restriction of alliances and without needing to purchase the "any race any alliance" package.

    The imperial race should be part of the base races that new players can use to create a new character.

    New races could be sold in the Crown Store for crowns so players can create new characters.

    For example.

    The Maormer race, different types of Khajiites, different types of Argonians, sloads, snow elves, etc.

    ZOS could make a lot more money selling new races to players than keeping the "any race any alliance" pack in the Crown Store.

    That's how I would have done it too. Everyone starts in the Wailing Prison and is dropped out into the same starter location which has quests which introduce them to all 3 Alliances, with side quests introducing Tamriel in general (for people new to TES). At the end of the zone's main story quest chain they have to choose an Alliance to join and that determines where they're sent next and who they fight for in Cyrodiil.

    Ideally the starter zone would get you to around level 10 so you can go straight into Cyrodiil if you want to, and of course players who know what they're doing will still be able to leave immediately using wayshrines (they'd get a pop-up to choose an alliance).

    But I think it's too late for ZOS to do that now. They've reworked the tutorial and starting locations multiple times but never done more than move the same format to another location and slightly adjusted the tutorial parts.
    PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"
  • BelmontDrakul
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    I wanted this thread to be closed because; I have thought a poll would give better solution.

    Go to -> https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668254/community-poll-what-should-zenimaxs-policy-towards-any-race-any-alliance-bundle-be
    MY PERSONAL TES PANTHEON (for now);
    Venerated ones;
    Azuramara (Syncretic deity {Azura-Mara} of compassion, love and foresight) | Juliomora (Syncretic deity {Julianos-Hermaeus Mora} of knowledge and wisdom)
    Jyggalag (Daedric prince of order, chief deity) | Malastenzen (Syncretic deity {Malacath-Stendarr-Zenithar} of oaths, pride, honor, justice and hardworking)
    Sotha Sil (Saint of order and craftsmanship) | The Hist (Living deities of natural order)
    Condemned ones;
    Almalexia | Boethiah | Dibella | Mehrunes Dagon | Mephala | Molag Bal | Namira | Nocturnal | Sanguine | Sheogorath | Vaermina | Vivec
    Neither venerated nor condemned ones;
    Akatosh | Alduin | Anu | Arkay | Auri-el | Dagoth Ur | Hircine | Ideal Masters | Ithelia | Jephre | Kynareth | Magnus | Meridia | Nerevar | Padomay | Peryite | Reman | Saint Veloth | Shezarr | Talos | Tsun | Ysgramor
  • fizzylu
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    Odd takeaway.
  • ZOS_Icy
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