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Little reminder for the eso kids at the fungral grotto 1 pledge day
derkaiserliche
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1. You dont decide alone that everyone needs to "speedrun" the dungeon - its a group decision
2. A little hello back wont ruin your hard grind to 250cp
3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on 18 September 2024 20:36 2. A little hello back wont ruin your hard grind to 250cp
3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
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Tazzy✭✭✭So your expectations of the kids are extremely high, aren't they?
This one has no regrets *Raz7 -
Blood_again✭✭✭✭✭derkaiserliche wrote: »3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
But there are no mobs between the gates and the last boss in FG1, if you can swim for sure
Those 5% are rather about the gate keeper boss.
All in all, I support the main idea. Joined the group - play as a group.2 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's that jump into the water that gets me the most. Most players will use the skip without a thought for others. At least I stop and look to see what everyone else wants to do. There are still players that need/want a full clear.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I just go on my own with my pal Bastian......
If he moans I just unsummon him!! 🤣When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!6 -
Blood_again✭✭✭✭✭It's that jump into the water that gets me the most. Most players will use the skip without a thought for others. At least I stop and look to see what everyone else wants to do. There are still players that need/want a full clear.
The most insightful reveals for average PUG runner:
- There are obligations with the role?!
- There are mechanics on this boss?!
- There are other people behind these names in the group list?!
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El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Don't need 3 rules, just one: Do what the group wants. Which normally means swimming past 2 bosses.7 -
I_killed_Vivec✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Four_Fingers wrote: »Fungal is a group dungeon? /s
Indeed.
Though even soloing it I still clear all the mobs...1 -
Nharimlur_Finor✭✭✭✭✭derkaiserliche wrote: »1. You dont decide alone that everyone needs to "speedrun" the dungeon - its a group decision
2. A little hello back wont ruin your hard grind to 250cp
3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
These are hardened, professional 'style page' farmers.
They'll be back here in 15 days complaining about having to pay two listing fees for stuff that only a few people think of as serious merchandise.
Or that they aren't making 1M a week anymore
Or that something-or-other isn't dropping for them the way it should be.
Expect nothing from dungeons currently. You won't be disappointed.2 -
Bucky_13✭✭✭✭✭
✭derkaiserliche wrote: »1. You dont decide alone that everyone needs to "speedrun" the dungeon - its a group decision
2. A little hello back wont ruin your hard grind to 250cp
3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
4. If you ninja pulled the last boss in vet without activating HM, you might upset some of your group members6 -
JiubLeRepenti✭✭✭✭✭derkaiserliche wrote: »1. You dont decide alone that everyone needs to "speedrun" the dungeon - its a group decision
2. A little hello back wont ruin your hard grind to 250cp
3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
No offense but you just make me want to do the exact opposite.
I'm the first to say hello, to check how the group is acting in order to adapt my own way of playing, and in general I easily do 30-40% of group dps.
But the simple fact that you call "kids" ppl just because they don't act the way you want makes me think you're not the sweetest teamate on this game.
As we say in French : you don't catch flies with vinegar.BE/FR l PC EU l CP2400
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✭✭✭derkaiserliche wrote: »1. You dont decide alone that everyone needs to "speedrun" the dungeon - its a group decision
2. A little hello back wont ruin your hard grind to 250cp
3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
4. If you ninja pulled the last boss in vet without activating HM, you might upset some of your group members
Wait Uber vets can't solo HM FG1? 😀😃🙂0 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭derkaiserliche wrote: »1. You dont decide alone that everyone needs to "speedrun" the dungeon - its a group decision
2. A little hello back wont ruin your hard grind to 250cp
3. If you did 5% dmg to the last boss at the time everyone else arrives, after clearing all the mobs you skipped, you only risk people having a laugh about you
4. If you ninja pulled the last boss in vet without activating HM, you might upset some of your group members
Ugh, few things upset me more than this. Its Fungal 1, I thought it was common knowledge that its always HM when its a pledge. Heck, I thought this was the assumed rule for all base dungeon pledges...3 -
Ilumia✭✭✭✭✭I always say hi when I get into a dungeon - (the amount of hi's I get back is appallingly low, it was much better a couple of years ago).
When I spot a chest, I mention it in chat and wait to see if people return and want to loot before I start pulling mobs.
I always wait for people who say they're doing a quest or who ask for help or if we can do side bosses slowdown.
That just seems like very basic dungeon etiquette.
That said I've done most dungeons sooo many times, and I'd like it to be as speedy as possible.
I won't be pissed at slower people, or people who don't do massive dps (I'll get annoyed if I have to heal, tank and do most dps, that's just rude to expect). But the least anyone else can do is say hi, and that they'd like this or that courtesy.
It's tedious to do pledges or daily dungeons if you have to wait for someone listening to quest dialogue (I'll still do that if they ask, and if others are ruining that experience I'll even offee to quit with them and help do it just the two of us/ask if they want to quit the quest and redo it with me after).
But the thing is that this is repeatable content, it's meant to be farmed (yeah, we can discuss what we think of that kinda content some other time).
So if nobody says anything in chat, I will speedrun, and it seems to be what the vast majority of people want too.1 -
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✭cyclonus11 wrote: »
We've managed to do it in premade groups without ninjapulling while on voice chat. Boss goes down fast, some goes "uh, did we turn on HM?", we say oops, wipe and restart.0 -
RaikaNA✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's that jump into the water that gets me the most. Most players will use the skip without a thought for others. At least I stop and look to see what everyone else wants to do. There are still players that need/want a full clear.
I made a post about this problem not that long ago. I do think that ZOS should add slaughter fish in the water to prevent people from doing that.4 -
FlopsyPrince✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It is hard to tell what the group wants. Yesterday in 1 run I waited to see and thought we were going the swim to the end route. Turns out I was the only one who did that. So I got the last boss down to 5% before anyone else got there.PC
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✭✭✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »It is hard to tell what the group wants. Yesterday in 1 run I waited to see and thought we were going the swim to the end route. Turns out I was the only one who did that. So I got the last boss down to 5% before anyone else got there.
I mean you can just turn around and see where they are? If they're all up the hill, it is not hard to run back up to them and join them. Or even wait so you don't kill the boss while they're fighting something else.1 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It's that jump into the water that gets me the most. Most players will use the skip without a thought for others. At least I stop and look to see what everyone else wants to do. There are still players that need/want a full clear.
I made a post about this problem not that long ago. I do think that ZOS should add slaughter fish in the water to prevent people from doing that.
Don't worry, next update you will be able yo counter troll them. FG1 will get the joining encounter in progress feature. If you can snag a skippable boss before they get to the main one you can yank them back.4 -
SkaiFaith✭✭✭✭✭It's that jump into the water that gets me the most. Most players will use the skip without a thought for others. At least I stop and look to see what everyone else wants to do. There are still players that need/want a full clear.
I made a post about this problem not that long ago. I do think that ZOS should add slaughter fish in the water to prevent people from doing that.
Please, no. There's no reason a solo player farming FG1 vHM for transmutes/keys should go through all those fights...
People should just act better in groups or go solo.A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
B: "Too many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"3 -
WaywardArgonian✭✭✭✭✭Say it to them instead. Talking to random people on ESO Forums in a condescending manner won't achieve a thing.PC/EU altaholic | Smallscale & ballgroup healer | Former Empanada of Ravenwatch | @ degonyte in-game | Nibani Ilath-Pal (AD Nightblade) - AvA rank 50 | Jehanne Teymour (AD Sorcerer) - AvA rank 50 | Niria Ilath-Pal (AD Templar) - AvA rank 507 -
gamergirldk✭✭✭✭well the future belong to the speed runner with the upcomming patch, since they will be able to pull players to a boss fight in
inall dungeons and trials nowEdited by gamergirldk on 18 September 2024 19:423 -
ESO_player123✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's that jump into the water that gets me the most. Most players will use the skip without a thought for others. At least I stop and look to see what everyone else wants to do. There are still players that need/want a full clear.
I made a post about this problem not that long ago. I do think that ZOS should add slaughter fish in the water to prevent people from doing that.
I managed to accidentally fall into the water in FG1 quite a few times. I would not be amused to find slaughterfish there.2 -
Rishikesa108✭✭✭✭✭
✭gamergirldk wrote: »well the future belong to the speed runner with the upcomming patch, since they will be able to pull players to a boss fight in
inall dungeons and trials now
Unfortunately yes. I am very sorry that ZOS made this choice, which greatly penalizes new players, those who would have every right and every reason not to run and to do the entire dungeon.Man did not weave the web of life – he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself3 -
Dax_Draconis✭✭✭✭gamergirldk wrote: »well the future belong to the speed runner with the upcomming patch, since they will be able to pull players to a boss fight in
inall dungeons and trials now
If that is the case, then I hope all unskippable dialogue is being removed and automatic skill points are being rewarded for first time runners of the dungeons.4 -
Blood_again✭✭✭✭✭Rishikesa108 wrote: »Unfortunately yes. I am very sorry that ZOS made this choice, which greatly penalizes new players, those who would have every right and every reason not to run and to do the entire dungeon.
Well, ZOS grant speedrunners power to pull the group forward.
On the other hand, the group is still keeping the kick button in their hands. Players will be motivated stronger to push it quick.
Soon we'll see who's hand is faster. This dungeon is too small for both types of players 0 -
Nharimlur_Finor✭✭✭✭✭It's that jump into the water that gets me the most. Most players will use the skip without a thought for others. At least I stop and look to see what everyone else wants to do. There are still players that need/want a full clear.
I made a post about this problem not that long ago. I do think that ZOS should add slaughter fish in the water to prevent people from doing that.
Please, no. There's no reason a solo player farming FG1 vHM for transmutes/keys should go through all those fights...
People should just act better in groups or go solo.
Group dungeons.
Made for groups
"People should just act better in groups". Ok, i made a set of Cowards, so I can keep up with the speed run leader.
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Anifaas✭✭✭✭✭JiubLeRepenti wrote: »As we say in French : you don't catch flies with vinegar.
But cider vinegar is great at attracting fruit flies.0
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