Don't let more than 1 foes grant invulnerability exist at the same time in IA

Lykeion

One thing I learned about game design when I started playing Frozen Throne a long, long time ago: if there's a foe that grants invulnerability, don't let more than one of them exist at the same time, or they'll grant invulnerability to each other.

Now the problem with IA is that there are too many enemies that grant invulnerability to other enemies. In the previous version, we only had firesong druid, which is not hard to deal with. But in U43, lightbringer and brewmaster were added to IA, applying invulnerability hardly or softly to their companions. When there is more than 1 of them it often results in all enemies being invulnerable. At high Arc most of the healing comes from Pale Order, and the consequences of all foes being invulnerable are often disastrous. Sometimes I can kite to unprotect some monsters, but at high Arc, more often I lose my thread before I succeed in doing so.

Please consider improving this before the U44 PTS goes live

Necrotech_Master

both of them can be dealt with easily by LOSing them to force them to move out of the areas of dmg reduction

the enemies only get dmg reduction (brewmaster) or invulnerability (lightbringer) when inside of the respective aoes

the lightbringer aoe is really really small and pretty easy to do this with

the brewmaster is more annoying because when he shrinks you, it also greatly reduces your self healing to the point of it doing basically nothing, along with having a powerful self heal, so i usually try to kill them before they drop their bubble, if they do drop the bubble, i might try to kill everything else outside of the bubble, or LOS to kite them out of the bubble

overall i agree that the bremasters bubble is highly unnecessary with all of the other stuff they do, the lightbringer cant heal and its aoe of invulnerability is also a lot smaller so its easier to deal with

Theist_VII

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

both of them can be dealt with easily by LOSing them to force them to move out of the areas of dmg reduction

Good luck LOSing that.

Necrotech_Master

Theist_VII wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

both of them can be dealt with easily by LOSing them to force them to move out of the areas of dmg reduction

Good luck LOSing that.

thats some luck right there lol

i dont know if the meteors have a max range to outrange them, normally mystics are the first enemies i focus if they spawn so i kill them before they even drop the meteors

thats one of those cases where having an emergency magma shell would help lol

Theist_VII

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

thats one of those cases where having an emergency magma shell would help lol

Yup, my Templar has a few of those in their pocket, I’ll be sure to remember that next time.

luchtt

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Theist_VII wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

thats one of those cases where having an emergency magma shell would help lol

Magma shell cannot mitigate Meteor damage, and it kills you no matter what above around arc 4-5 ish.

The only way to mitigate it is to use major and minor cowardice, or weakening enchant.

Necrotech_Master

luchtt wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

Theist_VII wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

thats one of those cases where having an emergency magma shell would help lol

Magma shell cannot mitigate Meteor damage, and it kills you no matter what above around arc 4-5 ish.

The only way to mitigate it is to use major and minor cowardice, or weakening enchant.

good to know

usually try to kill the mystics before they even drop the meteors, though i know thats harder to do at later arcs

Wuuffyy

Theist_VII wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

both of them can be dealt with easily by LOSing them to force them to move out of the areas of dmg reduction

Good luck LOSing that.

THIS! Number 1 thing I complained about myself with the new IA update. Someone said "luck" but I promise you- the higher you go up in arcs, the more you'll see this.

I've seen this about 5-10 times now farming a few class sets and it's an absolute death sentence on the later arcs. For me, I have found the toxic meteor invul combo more with the brewmaster's bubble.

Dragonredux

Lightbringers were a mistake. Damage reduction is manageable but actual immunity is annoying especially when you can't do anything about it. Druids I can at least stun.

ForumSavant

Lightbringers and brew masters are very fun and engaging!