[TEMPLAR] The appearance of Puncturing Strikes needs to be changed

TDVM · July 20

The appearance of Puncturing Strikes needs to be changed, it looks terrible, it's not a spear, it's literally a shovel.
Especially since it's not even a special appearance of the skill, it's just Nighthollow Staff.
They just took the appearance of a staff and put it into a skill, don't you think that's just hackwork?

LunaFlora · July 20

that really isn't a shovel. not a lot of dirt would stay on there if you tried using it like a shovel.

i think it looks like a spear which zos probably thinks as well which would be why they used it for a spear skill.

maybe they'll change it if they ever add spears for us as a weapon or when they add another staff style that they think fits better. [addition: or maybe they'll never change it]

MEBengalsFan2001 · July 20

Damage has to increase for this skill. It’s laughable damage wise and is the class spammable. Templar best thing to do in pvp is range everything. Javelin, radiant glory, vampire bane, blazing spears, etc… if you get closer than 15m to your target Templar burst potential quickly diminishes as you can easily be interrupted and most skills can be dodged.

The strongest skill Templar has currently is dark flare. But it slow to cast, easily can be interrupted or dodged, and it’s still inferior to frag, concealed weapon, whip, scorch etc…

I main a Templar but it’s annoying as crap to play knowing that currently the only class that is just as bad is Necro.

xylena_lazarow · July 20

WTB skill style: Old Jabs Animation

And yes move some of the power out of the beam and back into jabs, make it land reliably.

Udrath · July 20

Jabs animation is really bad and there are probably a million posts wanting it changed

Jabs isn’t a bad on damage when you have 5-6k tooltip which is easy to have, but what is bad is the snare. One roll dodge is all it takes to get away. I really wish it added a slow like rending slashes instead of 0.5 seconds

divnyi · July 20

Udrath wrote: »

Jabs animation is really bad and there are probably a million posts wanting it changed

Jabs isn’t a bad on damage when you have 5-6k tooltip which is easy to have, but what is bad is the snare. One roll dodge is all it takes to get away. I really wish it added a slow like rending slashes instead of 0.5 seconds

Eh, no. This is probably the good part. The spammable skills don't have snare, rending isn't spammable (well you can sorta make it with a set). You can already hit enemy mid roll, and jbeam can too. No need to make rolls weaker than they already are.

reazea · July 21

TDVM wrote: »

The appearance of Puncturing Strikes needs to be changed, it looks terrible, it's not a spear, it's literally a shovel.
Especially since it's not even a special appearance of the skill, it's just Nighthollow Staff.
They just took the appearance of a staff and put it into a skill, don't you think that's just hackwork?

Couldn't agree more. And we need to keep bringing up this issue until it's changed or the forum is closed down.

ZDunlain · July 21

LunaFlora wrote: »

that really isn't a shovel. not a lot of dirt would stay on there if you tried using it like a shovel.

i think it looks like a spear which zos probably thinks as well which would be why they used it for a spear skill.

maybe they'll change it if they ever add spears for us as a weapon or when they add another staff style that they think fits better. [addition: or maybe they'll never change it]

It is a shovel! Jokes aside, it is a efortless and lazy way to make an ability imho and more an iconic class ability.

At the end, templar mains just want to have jabs buffed.

divnyi · July 21

ZDunlain wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

that really isn't a shovel. not a lot of dirt would stay on there if you tried using it like a shovel.

i think it looks like a spear which zos probably thinks as well which would be why they used it for a spear skill.

maybe they'll change it if they ever add spears for us as a weapon or when they add another staff style that they think fits better. [addition: or maybe they'll never change it]

It is a shovel! Jokes aside, it is a efortless and lazy way to make an ability imho and more an iconic class ability.

At the end, templar mains just want to have jabs buffed.

I'm not templar main and I want to have jabs u35 changes undone.
There was nothing wrong with jabs.

Moothos · July 21

for people who think the templar jabs animation looks like a spear, these are spears

templar jabs does not contain a spear, that is most definitely a shovel

JustLovely · July 21

Don't forget about that little jerk around the waist the new spear nighthollow stave does while stabbing shoveling.

MEBengalsFan2001 · July 23

Moothos wrote: »

for people who think the templar jabs animation looks like a spear, these are spears

templar jabs does not contain a spear, that is most definitely a shovel

The fourth from the left looks a bit like the style of what jabs is today. The animation doesn’t bother me, it’s the lack of damage. Between blacklash, burning light and jabs Templar should be able to burst down a target but we can’t because all three damage has been reduced to the trash can.

Solariken · July 23

I've had almost all my pleas for jabs animation change deleted by mods. I hope you have better luck with this than I did.

VinnyGambini · July 24

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

Moothos wrote: »

for people who think the templar jabs animation looks like a spear, these are spears

templar jabs does not contain a spear, that is most definitely a shovel

The fourth from the left looks a bit like the style of what jabs is today. The animation doesn’t bother me, it’s the lack of damage. Between blacklash, burning light and jabs Templar should be able to burst down a target but we can’t because all three damage has been reduced to the trash can.

In terms of damage, I fully agree. The problem is, melee templar has very low dmg. Ranged templar is quite strong, but melee version using jabs has very little dmg.

MEBengalsFan2001 · July 24

VinnyGambini wrote: »

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

Moothos wrote: »

for people who think the templar jabs animation looks like a spear, these are spears

templar jabs does not contain a spear, that is most definitely a shovel

The fourth from the left looks a bit like the style of what jabs is today. The animation doesn’t bother me, it’s the lack of damage. Between blacklash, burning light and jabs Templar should be able to burst down a target but we can’t because all three damage has been reduced to the trash can.

In terms of damage, I fully agree. The problem is, melee templar has very low dmg. Ranged templar is quite strong, but melee version using jabs has very little dmg.

Every mmo I have played melee was always a risk type of attack that offered a reward in improved damage. The devs did improve 2h weapons, NB, DK, but negatively affected Templar damage.