Why "Aedra" keep ignoring the Nirn people?

AvalonRanger

Why "Aedra" keep ignoring the Nirn people?

Just simple question. If you're lore specialist, then teach me.

Deadra have big interest against Nirn people regardless evil or not.
But, I've never seen Aedra who have actual activity in the Nirn like the Deadra.

Why?

Soarora

There are Aedric artifacts and blessings but the Aedra don’t want to be there, the Daedra do. While the Daedra freely engage with Nirn for their own entertainment, the Aedra were tricked by Lorkhan and basically chained to Nirn, which sucks their Divine energy away from them. This is probably why they can’t manifest as people like the Princes can— they don’t have the same power left. Nirn is a ticking time bomb really, one day the Aedra will be sucked dry.

Just the name Aedra vs Daedra is this difference, the Aedra are “our ancestors” in direct translation of the name “aedra”, the “d” in “daedra” adds “not” and thus Daedra are “not our ancestors”. The other big difference between them is Aedra are generally Anuic and Daedra are generally Padomaic, but there’s still beings like Magnus who aren’t involved with Nirn directly and Lorkhan who’s Padomaic but his body is what makes Masser, Secunda, The Heart of Lorkhan, Ebony, arguably Nirn itself, etc. so he is one of our ancestors, albeit not on purpose. I consider him the only being who’s both an Aedra and a Daedra, but he is also dead.

RaddlemanNumber7

Short answer:

At the time the game is set the Aedra no longer exist as individuals. The Aedra were the components from which Nirn was built.

AvalonRanger

Thanks for the excellent history lecture!

LunaFlora

they are sleeping

AvalonRanger

LunaFlora wrote: »

they are sleeping

They're dying rather than just sleeping.

DivineKitty

In very rare occasions, the Divines do make appearances, like during Pelinal's Rampage across Cyrodil, or during the Oblivion Crisis, but most of the time they either choose not to, or are unable to, intervene in mortal affairs.

Túrin_Vidsmidr

Soarora wrote: »

the Aedra were tricked by Lorkhan

That's shameless altmer propaganda :P
It's equally possible he convinced them to create the world through self-sacrifice.

MerguezMan

Soarora wrote: »

There are Aedric artifacts and blessings but the Aedra don’t want to be there, the Daedra do. While the Daedra freely engage with Nirn for their own entertainment, the Aedra were tricked by Lorkhan and basically chained to Nirn, which sucks their Divine energy away from them. This is probably why they can’t manifest as people like the Princes can— they don’t have the same power left. Nirn is a ticking time bomb really, one day the Aedra will be sucked dry.

This is incorrect.

The Aedras became Nirn and its inhabitants, collectively. They became mortals in the process and lost their physical forms as they infused their energy in Nirn. Some can still be encountered as spirits/ghosts, but only on Nirn.
The Aedras are litterally the grand-grand-...-grand-parents of the current Nirn inhabitants, who still unconsciously contribute to this process.

Lorkhan is said to have "tricked" them, as some of the Aedras did not realize they would actually become mortals in the process, hence the schizm between human aedras (willingly becoming mortals) and elven aedras (contributing without willing to sacrifice immortality).

Daedras did not take part in Nirn creation and invested their energy individually (or in smaller groups) in their own daedric planes. They only visit Nirn without being part of it. If a daedra happens to physically die, he will reshape in his daedric plane of anchor.

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Short answer:
At the time the game is set the Aedra no longer exist as individuals. The Aedra were the components from which Nirn was built.

Basically this. Aedras = ancestors. At best, a spirit which can give advice, or will link mortals to Nirn's energies.

AvalonRanger

MerguezMan wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

There are Aedric artifacts and blessings but the Aedra don’t want to be there, the Daedra do. While the Daedra freely engage with Nirn for their own entertainment, the Aedra were tricked by Lorkhan and basically chained to Nirn, which sucks their Divine energy away from them. This is probably why they can’t manifest as people like the Princes can— they don’t have the same power left. Nirn is a ticking time bomb really, one day the Aedra will be sucked dry.

This is incorrect.

The Aedras became Nirn and its inhabitants, collectively. They became mortals in the process and lost their physical forms as they infused their energy in Nirn. Some can still be encountered as spirits/ghosts, but only on Nirn.
The Aedras are litterally the grand-grand-...-grand-parents of the current Nirn inhabitants, who still unconsciously contribute to this process.

Lorkhan is said to have "tricked" them, as some of the Aedras did not realize they would actually become mortals in the process, hence the schizm between human aedras (willingly becoming mortals) and elven aedras (contributing without willing to sacrifice immortality).

Daedras did not take part in Nirn creation and invested their energy individually (or in smaller groups) in their own daedric planes. They only visit Nirn without being part of it. If a daedra happens to physically die, he will reshape in his daedric plane of anchor.

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Short answer:
At the time the game is set the Aedra no longer exist as individuals. The Aedra were the components from which Nirn was built.

Basically this. Aedras = ancestors. At best, a spirit which can give advice, or will link mortals to Nirn's energies.

"The Aedras are litterally the grand-grand-...-grand-parents of the current Nirn inhabitants,
who still unconsciously contribute to this process."

Correct or not, I prefer this episode. Because, it's romantic.

OtarTheMad

LunaFlora wrote: »

they are sleeping

Okay real talk… is this Akatosh? I’ve always been insanely curious.

Syldras

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Okay real talk… is this Akatosh? I’ve always been insanely curious.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Aspect_of_Alkosh

OtarTheMad

Syldras wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Okay real talk… is this Akatosh? I’ve always been insanely curious.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Aspect_of_Alkosh

Oh cool thank you. I somehow missed this.