80k dps one bar Necro, with no idea how to min-max

OsUfi

Hello

The question: would any sets, cp, or scribing improve this build and maintain easy play?

Using my own build, not sure if there are ways to optimise. Currently hit for 75-80k on trial dummy and I can't parse reliably for toffee. My hands are a mess.

My goal, to maintain an easy build that can solo play. I sometimes head to Friday night Cyro raids, otherwise it's mostly daily quests, story quests, and boss hunting. I want speed as I spend a lot of time running both in Cyro and to and from daily quest givers, bosses, and delves. Tri enchanted gear as I like the health and extra Stam on my magicka build. Again, struggle playing physically. I want my 30k health.

I like skills with 20 second up times so I don't have to recast often. I can heavy attack and cast once between each attack. Either blastbones or maintaining a skills up time.

One bar.

Gear

Lightning staff
Oakensoul ring
5 pieces Deadly
5 pieces Sergeants
1 piece Slimeclaw

6 medium, 1 heavy chest, all divines, and tri enchanted, thief mundus.

Skills

Elemental susceptibility
Blighted blastbones
Skeletal arcanist
Detonating siphon
Spirit guardian

Meteor

Cp

Wrathfull strikes
Thaumaturge
Reaving blows
Weapon expert

So, yes, would I notice any benefit changing gear, cp, or adding in a scribe skill? Would changing out either set for Tharriker's Strike or any other set add a noticeable amount of damage? Would a change of CP help? Or would any change make just negligible differences?

tsaescishoeshiner

Congrats on getting that much damage for an easy 1-bar build! I use something really similar for my necro story-and-daily quest char. I don't know about major parse optimizations, but I wonder if you'd get better damage in world bosses with Colossus (which I think parses lowers but helps groups clear stuff).

Small trick I found (might depend on your hands): If you queue up Ruinous Scythe 0.5-1 seconds before your heavy attack ends, it'll hit melee targets immediately when the heavy attack ends, setting targets off balance in the split second before the lightning heavy reaches them. So with a group of closerange mobs, it'll stun multiple instantly. It also lets you get off three off-balance-boosted heavy attacks instead of only 2. Not good for parses, but a fun trick to one-shot dangerous enemies, stun groups, and a nice emergency heal for the spicier world bosses.

Necrotech_Master

that gear setup is a pretty typical for a 1 bar heavy attack setup, you realistically would get that much dps/survivability on pretty much any class

dont really see anything unusual with the skill selection either, though personally i might drop the skeletal arcanist for wall of elements because the dmg from the skeleton mage is awful

Malprave

Don’t do anything. 80k is what you should expect from a one bar heavy attack build.

yadibroz

OsUfi wrote: »

Hello

The question: would any sets, cp, or scribing improve this build and maintain easy play?

Using my own build, not sure if there are ways to optimise. Currently hit for 75-80k on trial dummy and I can't parse reliably for toffee. My hands are a mess.

My goal, to maintain an easy build that can solo play. I sometimes head to Friday night Cyro raids, otherwise it's mostly daily quests, story quests, and boss hunting. I want speed as I spend a lot of time running both in Cyro and to and from daily quest givers, bosses, and delves. Tri enchanted gear as I like the health and extra Stam on my magicka build. Again, struggle playing physically. I want my 30k health.

I like skills with 20 second up times so I don't have to recast often. I can heavy attack and cast once between each attack. Either blastbones or maintaining a skills up time.

One bar.

Gear

Lightning staff
Oakensoul ring
5 pieces Deadly
5 pieces Sergeants
1 piece Slimeclaw

6 medium, 1 heavy chest, all divines, and tri enchanted, thief mundus.

Skills

Elemental susceptibility
Blighted blastbones
Skeletal arcanist
Detonating siphon
Spirit guardian

Meteor

Cp

Wrathfull strikes
Thaumaturge
Reaving blows
Weapon expert

So, yes, would I notice any benefit changing gear, cp, or adding in a scribe skill? Would changing out either set for Tharriker's Strike or any other set add a noticeable amount of damage? Would a change of CP help? Or would any change make just negligible differences?

Why lightning why not something else

OsUfi

yadibroz wrote: »

OsUfi wrote: »

Hello

The question: would any sets, cp, or scribing improve this build and maintain easy play?

Using my own build, not sure if there are ways to optimise. Currently hit for 75-80k on trial dummy and I can't parse reliably for toffee. My hands are a mess.

My goal, to maintain an easy build that can solo play. I sometimes head to Friday night Cyro raids, otherwise it's mostly daily quests, story quests, and boss hunting. I want speed as I spend a lot of time running both in Cyro and to and from daily quest givers, bosses, and delves. Tri enchanted gear as I like the health and extra Stam on my magicka build. Again, struggle playing physically. I want my 30k health.

I like skills with 20 second up times so I don't have to recast often. I can heavy attack and cast once between each attack. Either blastbones or maintaining a skills up time.

One bar.

Gear

Lightning staff
Oakensoul ring
5 pieces Deadly
5 pieces Sergeants
1 piece Slimeclaw

6 medium, 1 heavy chest, all divines, and tri enchanted, thief mundus.

Skills

Elemental susceptibility
Blighted blastbones
Skeletal arcanist
Detonating siphon
Spirit guardian

Meteor

Cp

Wrathfull strikes
Thaumaturge
Reaving blows
Weapon expert

So, yes, would I notice any benefit changing gear, cp, or adding in a scribe skill? Would changing out either set for Tharriker's Strike or any other set add a noticeable amount of damage? Would a change of CP help? Or would any change make just negligible differences?

Why lightning why not something else

Heavy attack between each skill cast. Ease of use mostly.

Necrotech_Master

yadibroz wrote: »

OsUfi wrote: »

Hello

The question: would any sets, cp, or scribing improve this build and maintain easy play?

Using my own build, not sure if there are ways to optimise. Currently hit for 75-80k on trial dummy and I can't parse reliably for toffee. My hands are a mess.

My goal, to maintain an easy build that can solo play. I sometimes head to Friday night Cyro raids, otherwise it's mostly daily quests, story quests, and boss hunting. I want speed as I spend a lot of time running both in Cyro and to and from daily quest givers, bosses, and delves. Tri enchanted gear as I like the health and extra Stam on my magicka build. Again, struggle playing physically. I want my 30k health.

I like skills with 20 second up times so I don't have to recast often. I can heavy attack and cast once between each attack. Either blastbones or maintaining a skills up time.

One bar.

Gear

Lightning staff
Oakensoul ring
5 pieces Deadly
5 pieces Sergeants
1 piece Slimeclaw

6 medium, 1 heavy chest, all divines, and tri enchanted, thief mundus.

Skills

Elemental susceptibility
Blighted blastbones
Skeletal arcanist
Detonating siphon
Spirit guardian

Meteor

Cp

Wrathfull strikes
Thaumaturge
Reaving blows
Weapon expert

So, yes, would I notice any benefit changing gear, cp, or adding in a scribe skill? Would changing out either set for Tharriker's Strike or any other set add a noticeable amount of damage? Would a change of CP help? Or would any change make just negligible differences?

Why lightning why not something else

if your running a heavy attack build, you only use lightning staff for multiple reasons:

• the heavy attack buffs apply to all 3 ticks on the lightning staff
• the lightning staff heavy 3rd hit has 100% of its dmg dealt in an aoe

if your not using a lightning staff on a heavy attack build, its absolutely not worth using a heavy attack build, or at least using a set that buffs heavy attacks

Hasenpfote

You can reach sligtly lower values with healing staff aswell, which cause high healpower. 20k heavy attack heal is pretty common with this build, meaning you can reach 40-50k steady DPS in vet dungeon while healing, which is more than most 10k dps damage dealers you find in vet dungeons these days.

Yamenstein

Honestly - don't even bother with this class until ZoS fixes it.
You put in double the effort for half the reward and then just get frustrated that you spent so much time trying to figure out how to make your build somewhat decent only to see other classes jump ahead. (In some situations quite literally!)

It's useless class and should only be played for RP purposes.

OsUfi

Yamenstein wrote: »

Honestly - don't even bother with this class until ZoS fixes it.
You put in double the effort for half the reward and then just get frustrated that you spent so much time trying to figure out how to make your build somewhat decent only to see other classes jump ahead. (In some situations quite literally!)

It's useless class and should only be played for RP purposes.

Oh good god, shut up, and stop being so miserable about necros. It's not a dead class, it's just a little bit behind all the others. At the very top end it's maybe less than 5% behind in DPS numbers,

Yamenstein

OsUfi wrote: »

Yamenstein wrote: »

Honestly - don't even bother with this class until ZoS fixes it.
You put in double the effort for half the reward and then just get frustrated that you spent so much time trying to figure out how to make your build somewhat decent only to see other classes jump ahead. (In some situations quite literally!)

It's useless class and should only be played for RP purposes.

Oh good god, shut up, and stop being so miserable about necros. It's not a dead class, it's just a little bit behind all the others. At the very top end it's maybe less than 5% behind in DPS numbers,

No 🙂
But thanks for your input.

Stafford197

Looks like a typical lightning heavy attack build.
Any reason why you use Deadly Strike instead of Noble Duelist? Changing that should lead to more damage.

Would you be opposed to swapping to Sorc DPS? They are the best class for heavy attack builds especially if you have hand issues. You’ll deal more damage, be much more tanky, and have a multi-target burst heal option. You can slot two pets for plenty of passive damage/less buttons to worry about too. You can slot Streak, Dark Deal to gain either resource, Charged Maneuvers… they’re amazing at speed while Necro is quite bad at speed. I highly recommend Sorc.

Also you mentioned above how damage difference between classes at the top end is only 5%. Idk if that is true but there is a big discrepancy in damage and survivability between each class based on the content. For example, my Arcanist DPS shreds through Oathsworn Pit HM and Trifecta easily, while my Warden DPS does a really poor job despite being just as optimized. Totally different ballpark between the two. If you mean all class damage is within 5% of each other when provided all buffs in the game, with infinite sustain, while fighting a single target that doesn’t fight back… there is a reason certain classes fulfil roles in raid, and there is a reason why Sorc is the main heavy attack dps.

OsUfi

@Stafford197 I went with deadly strike as I originally had blastbones and 4 DoTs. Golded it all out with tri stat enchants. Never really tried anything else. Would nobles give a noticeable bump in DPS?

As for swapping, although I do want to know if there's anything I can improve, I love necros in ESO and would rather stay as one. Have never really enjoyed necros in any other games, except maybe my necro thief in Ultima Online back in the early 2000s.

This character has every quest, skyshard, map, motif and everything else unlocked. Has soloed every world boss in the game. Even if some took a while. Alliance rank 30 to boot, which takes a long time as a casual Friday Ravenwatch player. Never have resource or survivability issues, maybe because I've had the one character for so long.