Concerns regarding Vault (bow grimoire) and mobility

MentalxHammer · May 6

Firstly I want to thank ZOS for listening to the communities concerns regarding oblivion damage on the soul magic skill and adjusting accordingly.

***Update: ZOS did actually change this in the latest patch notes and I didn't see it when I was reading, nothing to see here :0

I'm excited for the new scribing system, however I think there is another elephant in the room that needs to be discussed. The vault ability has the same distance as streak, however has no ramping cost. It sends you backwards, but it's easy enough to just flip your camera around and use it in the same way as streak. This opens up a pretty major concern that with sufficient sustain you could infinitely fly around the map.

I think it's pretty clear that this skill should have a ramping cost increase.

Soarora · May 6

Didn’t they add one with this patch? I could’ve misread but thats what I thought I saw.

Edit: “Fixed an issue where this ability did not have a stacking cost increase if cast in rapid succession” under Vault.

MentalxHammer · May 7

Soarora wrote: »

Didn’t they add one with this patch? I could’ve misread but thats what I thought I saw.

Edit: “Fixed an issue where this ability did not have a stacking cost increase if cast in rapid succession” under Vault.

Oh! I missed that in the patch notes and just went back to re-read. This is great lol. I love it when my concern threads are answered in negative time :0

MashmalloMan · May 7

@MentalxHammer You're not crazy, unless we're all just blind. I think Gina edited in later. On Skinny's stream no one saw it either, we only saw it in game later.

If you look at the edit at the bottom of the post for that section: "Edited by ZOS_GinaBruno on May 6, 2024 4:23PM" but it was written 3:15PM.

I'm not crazy! You're CRAZY.

Idk, maybe we just missed it lol.

Edit: Yeah my theory was correct, I just double checked his VOD and that note wasn't there.

Turtle_Bot · May 7

Yep, Vault got fixed, so it is actually somewhat balanced now (well, about as balanced as streak).

Glad it was fixed and given that ramping cost, because I tested this when it didn't have a ramping cost and it was insane how overpowered it was without it.

I'm still expecting it to be a very strong skill in PvP thanks to the potential combinations of effects possible on it, but at least now it won't be beyond broken by being infinitely spammable.

MashmalloMan · May 7

Turtle_Bot wrote: »

Yep, Vault got fixed, so it is actually somewhat balanced now (well, about as balanced as streak).

Glad it was fixed and given that ramping cost, because I tested this when it didn't have a ramping cost and it was insane how overpowered it was without it.

I'm still expecting it to be a very strong skill in PvP thanks to the potential combinations of effects possible on it, but at least now it won't be beyond broken by being infinitely spammable.

It's strong when it works.. I tried it and didn't like it all too much because it doesn't work like streak. It picks a spot behind you in like a 90 degree cone that is as far and as high as possible instead of going in a straight line.

Also the issue with going off ledges or cliffs where it just goes 2 inches instead of off the elevation. Streak doesn't have this issue.

It just doesn't feel fluid enough to me. Maybe it will be better with time. I know they reduced the verticality of it in this weeks patch. Haven't tested it yet.