The Emperor AP System is Broken: Move to a Guild-Based Title

Sleepydan

My problem with the guild based emperor title.

As it stands, I'll very likely never get emperor status. With a guild based system, I WILL NEVER get emperor status because I am not a guild leader.

I've found five guilds with people in it I like and get along with. Your suggestion will demand that I leave one of them and make a new one.

Me and every they emperor hopeful. Diluting strong united guilds presently existing.


I don't like this plan.

TheGrandAlliance

Sleepydan wrote: »

My problem with the guild based emperor title.

As it stands, I'll very likely never get emperor status. With a guild based system, I WILL NEVER get emperor status because I am not a guild leader.

I've found five guilds with people in it I like and get along with. Your suggestion will demand that I leave one of them and make a new one.

Me and every they emperor hopeful. Diluting strong united guilds presently existing.


I don't like this plan.

...or take control of a preexisting guild.


Think of it this way @Sleepydan‌ ...what is the probablity of you getting Emperor now (on real server)? 0.0000000001%?

Now with the new system? maybe 1%? Still better then 0 though lol. ANyways the point is that leaders should be rewarded not solo AP farmers.

1nugam1

How about rewarding people who actually fight? hm 'Mistress' ?

demonlkojipub19_ESO

I would rather they get rid of the "capture 6 central keeps" system for emperor. Its easily exploitable as some threads have shown. Emperor should be obtained by points earned throughout the duration of the campaign, after the campaign is over, the person with the most points gets emperor for the duration of the next campaign. The new 5 and 7 day campaigns would be perfect for this system.

Along with that, their point gains are reduced to 3/4 or around that to better allow someone else to become emperor, or else the current emperor can work even harder to retain the title, reducing lazy emperors.

I said most of it in a different thread:

I'm think a 5 day system of selecting the person who was most helpful in cyrodil during those days based on a point system. Being a scroll carrier and captor being the highest, Capturing and defending enemy home keeps giving the 2nd most points towards it, Aiding in capturing a scroll the 3nd most (counted by killing enemy players within 150 meters of scroll, or whatever measures out best), capturing misc keeps (central keeps becoming misc keeps) the 4rd, and killing random enemy players the lowest.

Perhaps even some even more minor factors like Damage dealt to enemy keeps and siege equipment, Repairs done to keeps and siege equipment, Foraward camps placed, forward camps destroyed, burning forward camps and siege equipment stopped, damage dealt to players, healing that is not overhealing done, damage taken, times killed, players revived, quests completed (yes helping NPC peoples across cyrodil should increase chances of emperorship), etc.

I also don't like the guild-based emperorship thing either, especially if it will be limited to the guild leader. It was a bad idea in Tera and its a bad idea now. No one should be forced into guilds to either help out their alliance or get points towards the top reward. We are all in one guild, and that is [insert alliance name here]. We already have the ability to capture keeps for our guilds, lets leave it at that. Go further than that and we will have even more people ditching cyrodil pvp.

leewells

Sleepydan wrote: »

As it stands, I'll very likely never get emperor status. With a guild based system, I WILL NEVER get emperor status because I am not a guild leader.

I've noticed that misconceptions is always rampart in these kinds of discussions. I'm a guild leader of a very large guild that has been accused of somehow arranging the farm on Celarus. As that guild leader I'm far, far away from emp myself. Why? Because I spend more time with guild management than actually pvping and farming points for the leaderboard. Most guild leaders with successful guilds finds themselves in this predicament. The moral of the story is, be careful what you wish for, and don't think for a second that because someone is in a leadership position that they are somehow more privileged or in a better position than you to achieve more.

PikkonMG

Guild based title is kind of a stupid idea.

TheGrandAlliance

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

I also don't like the guild-based emperorship thing either, especially if it will be limited to the guild leader.

I didn't say it would be limited to the guild leader; simply the guild leader would have control over it.

TheGrandAlliance

1nugam1 wrote: »

How about rewarding people who actually fight? hm 'Mistress' ?

Yes.... scroll trolling is SOOOOO HARD LOL...

1nugam1

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

1nugam1 wrote: »

How about rewarding people who actually fight? hm 'Mistress' ?

Yes.... scroll trolling is SOOOOO HARD LOL...

You implying spamming the zone chat in all caps, telling people how to play the game is better?

TheGrandAlliance

1nugam1 wrote: »

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

1nugam1 wrote: »

How about rewarding people who actually fight? hm 'Mistress' ?

Yes.... scroll trolling is SOOOOO HARD LOL...

You implying spamming the zone chat in all caps, telling people how to play the game is better?

If they know WTF they are doing yes very much...

1nugam1

If people want to farm AP all day there's nothing you can do or say to stop them. Why bother. As much as I appreciate people trying to organize PvP groups from randoms, spamming in caps will only cause a divide rather than bringing anyone closer to an objective.

TheGrandAlliance

1nugam1 wrote: »

If people want to farm AP all day there's nothing you can do or say to stop them. Why bother. As much as I appreciate people trying to organize PvP groups from randoms, spamming in caps will only cause a divide rather than bringing anyone closer to an objective.

Spamming in caps is indeed a bad thing. It is better to "flood" then to use caps LOL. Alas: The reason for the aggro is that sometimes players in the heat of battle cannot pick out single normal /z messages from the chat box when they are looking at the screen to avoid/move around the battlefield.


By flooding the chat box with (only) key messages... it ensures everyone gets the message and the battle is won. Remember you can always turn off /z if you wish to just focus on your guild's activities.