Some Housing Items arent visible to Visitor sometimes

dacore · April 21

Hello Friends,

there is a bug in my plot that some assets arent visible to visitors sometimes.

Affected Assets:

- Armory
- Small and Big Inventory Chests
- Assets that are linked to the first 2 ones

The Screenshots showes my view and the view of a guest, who recently ported to my house.
I build a Mage Tower and these 3 Assets are normaly on floor 4. I put them closer to the entrace because i suspect them to be to far away from entrance, so they may are not loaded for a visitor. But thats not the case here. The first time i noticed this behavior is 10 months ago, where i was told by someone else that there is no armory in my house. We checked this together and i discovered that some of the Inventory Chests are missing too.

When i take the assets back in my inventory and revert the changes in the placement menu, the assets will be visible again to a visitor, as long they stay in my plot.
When they leave and port back, the assets are missing again.

In addition its not like all assets of these type arent visible every time. Its more random. Sometimes some chests are visible and other not. Sometimes linked assets arent visible aswell.
There is no collision with the objects for visitors. So there client failed to load the assets completly.

One of my guilds use this plot too, and they have no problems with armory or chests there.
My Client load the assets every time. Besides the mentioned assets, i cant confirm other assets to be affected aswell.

dacore · April 21

Okay, we may found a workaround.
I linked the disapearing assets with a non disapearing asset as master.
Right now it seems that this fixed the bug.

I came up with this solution because when i link a normal asset with a "disapearing asset" as master, the normal asset is also disapearing. So i thought reversing this could lead to the opposing effect.

As example:

When i link armory (as master asset) with a lantern, the lantern is also invisible when the armory is missing.
When i link the lantern (as master asset) with the armory, both are visible as it should be.

Nerouyn · April 22

Many many many years ago I encountered a bug where my furniture would just move around on its own.

Which was quite bothersome for like shelves and benches I'd meticulously constructed from parts, whose parts then independently found new positions.

Another player advised not to leave any furniture linked. Link, move, unlink.

Unlinking them stopped the problem, so seemingly linking is buggy.

dacore · April 22

Linking is not the problem here. Because even unlinked inventory chests disapeared for my visitors.

I have 2 unlinked chests in floor 3 of my tower, and sometimes both are missing for visitors, sometimes only one. As i said, its random.

My Armory is linked as master to 2 chests in and a single wooden piece on floor 4. I noticed that the wooden piece is also missing for visitors and as i can tell, its the only "normal" asset who is also not visible sometimes. This is no coincidence, so im sure that has something to do with the load order. If the Master Asset cant be loaded, linked assets wont be loaded aswell.

So i guessed when i link the "sometimes disapearing" assets with a "normal" assets as master, it could reverse the effect. And right now it seems that this worked.

Tbh, half of my plot is linked to something, and i never exp any problems with linking.

virtus753 · April 22

Were you in a group?

There is a longstanding bug where if someone in a group ports into a house first, collectible furnishings (chests/coffers, armory station, aeonstone lighting, etc.) may appear 150+ meters away for the other person. Only disbanding and having both players leave the house resets it, ime.

It occurs on console as well, so definitely not an add-on issue.

dacore · April 22

I was in a group and i entered the plot first.

What you describe would explain why the normal asset that is linked to one of the buggy assets would disappear aswell, when its position is fixed to a buggy master asset.

But like shown in the screenshot, i myself can see the assets. Only Visitors experience this bug.

I will test if my solution still works the next few days and i will test if something changed when someone else enters my home first.

virtus753 · April 23

dacore wrote: »

I was in a group and i entered the plot first.

What you describe would explain why the normal asset that is linked to one of the buggy assets would disappear aswell, when its position is fixed to a buggy master asset.

But like shown in the screenshot, i myself can see the assets. Only Visitors experience this bug.

I will test if my solution still works the next few days and i will test if something changed when someone else enters my home first.

If you have the time and interest, you could also test the order of who enters your house first.

I (unintentionally) blocked my partner from seeing her own chests and coffers once because I was in group with her and entered her house before she did.

dacore · April 23

virtus753 wrote: »

dacore wrote: »

I will test if my solution still works the next few days and i will test if something changed when someone else enters my home first.

If you have the time and interest, you could also test the order of who enters your house first.

Thats what i wrote before

virtus753 · April 23

dacore wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

dacore wrote: »

I will test if my solution still works the next few days and i will test if something changed when someone else enters my home first.

If you have the time and interest, you could also test the order of who enters your house first.

Thats what i wrote before

You wrote that you entered first. I’m suggesting having the other person enter first. I’m rereading and don’t see where you mentioned that, but it is pre-coffee, I admit.

dacore · April 23

virtus753 · April 23

dacore wrote: »

Thank you for highlighting it. I'm sure I missed the edit.

dacore · April 23

As you can see in the time stamps, the edits happend shortly after the release of my comments. I read my post after release a second time and correct misspellings. So im sure there was not edit you missed, 5 hours later.

Anyway. I will do a few tests and report back afterwards.

Cheers.

virtus753 · April 23

dacore wrote: »

As you can see in the time stamps, the edits happend shortly after the release of my comments. I read my post after release a second time and correct misspellings. So im sure there was not edit you missed, 5 hours later.

Anyway. I will do a few tests and report back afterwards.

Cheers.

I’m sure you don’t know my experience or when I start typing, so I’d appreciate it if you didn’t make assumptions.

I often start typing responses to posts and don’t get around to finishing or posting them until hours later. That’s the nature of my job on a regular basis - and of suddenly having a family member needing emergency brain surgery, as happened in the middle of my responding and why it took me hours to get back to this.

I don’t need to be teased in emoji or needled by a stranger who doesn’t understand what’s happening on the other side of the keyboard.

Good luck.

dacore · April 23

It doesnt matter what you do or how you do thing there. Or what i know about you.
I corrected misspelling and nothing more. I didnt changed the content i wrote and i didnt add something later.

The fact that the content was also edited within a few minutes of being sent also allows this conclusion to be drawn

You made it sound as if i had added something later that was factually incorrect and i take that as "teasing". So i would be grateful if you wouldn't make any assumptions about it next time. That wouldn't trigger the urge in me to put it right and i wouldn't have to write 4 messages about it to set the record straight.

Thank you!

dacore · April 23

virtus753 wrote: »

Were you in a group?

There is a longstanding bug where if someone in a group ports into a house first, collectible furnishings (chests/coffers, armory station, aeonstone lighting, etc.) may appear 150+ meters away for the other person. Only disbanding and having both players leave the house resets it, ime.

It occurs on console as well, so definitely not an add-on issue.

Its the quoted Problem here. We testet this, this time someone else entered my home first. Now i myself got the problem and i tracked my items down. They are at the plot entrance 180 meter below ground level.

So. Good to know that this bug is known. Bad to know that although it has been known for a long time, it has never been fixed
Would be sweet if this bug get adressed in the near future.