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Undaunted keys/boxes mechanics

Yas78
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Hello!

Can we have the RNG boxes mechanic changed to how it works with last dungeon boss set item reward?
Currently: we get random set item from a box, including those we already have;
Would love to have: we get set item from a box we dont already have;

Thanks in advance!
Edited by ZOS_Icy on 3 December 2024 17:02
  • SkaiFaith
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    Yeah... I just spent 50 keys to have all 3 weights of a set. Would have very much preferred if I could have spent only 15 keys.
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  • Kisakee
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Yeah... I just spent 50 keys to have all 3 weights of a set. Would have very much preferred if I could have spent only 15 keys.

    Then you wouldn't have a reason to run dungeons again and populate it so that other players can use your manpower to get those done for whatever reason. The system is about keeping things alive (even if it hurts you as an individual).
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  • Yas78
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    What is the reason for this kind of system to exist at all, if populating individuals are hurt and unhappy?
    I think daily dungeons keep 'the system' pretty much alive.
  • OsUfi
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    After spending 150 keys trying to get Velidreth medium, and failing to do so, I gave up entirely on undaunted dailies. The only thing that'd ever get me back into them is curated drops like the helms. Take heck with the current RNG key system.
  • CGPsaint
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    OsUfi wrote: »
    After spending 150 keys trying to get Velidreth medium, and failing to do so, I gave up entirely on undaunted dailies. The only thing that'd ever get me back into them is curated drops like the helms. Take heck with the current RNG key system.

    Back in the day when Ilambris was still a thing, and players were running a heavy helm with medium shoulders, I spent all of my keys over the course of two years (and change) and never got a medium shoulder in Divines. The RNG in this game is frustrating to say the least.
  • tincanman
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    Keep an eye on what the Golden Vendor has in cyro at weekends and buy shoulders there as needed.

    Slower but certainly less crushing than blowing 100+ keys.

    But it definitely needs to be fixed - even if not curated then a third option to spend 25 keys (or whatever - just less than the 100+ it often turns out to be for decon trash) to pick a specific shoulder in a specific weight.
  • Yas78
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    I think this RNG is totally out of spirit of ESO, which is not some cheap mobile gacha. There is plenty to do in ESO content-wise, maybe even too much, we can keep ourselves busy with questing literally permanently as new DLC come out, so there is really no need to implement RNG-based lootbox activities to keep players from leaving. I'd like to finally get rid of this tediousness of mindless grinding same dungeons day after day, get my craft library filled and be a happy player.
  • Vulkunne
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    Really wish we had an option to just choose what we want, direct. Its ok to have random loot too, but this is insane.
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  • Vulkunne
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    CGPsaint wrote: »
    OsUfi wrote: »
    After spending 150 keys trying to get Velidreth medium, and failing to do so, I gave up entirely on undaunted dailies. The only thing that'd ever get me back into them is curated drops like the helms. Take heck with the current RNG key system.

    Back in the day when Ilambris was still a thing, and players were running a heavy helm with medium shoulders, I spent all of my keys over the course of two years (and change) and never got a medium shoulder in Divines. The RNG in this game is frustrating to say the least.

    Right there with ya.
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  • Blood_again
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    When RNG is not merciful to me, I usually go to another Undaunted hub and try my fortune there.
    I totally understand that's an illusion of ruling over the random numbers. At least changing the place pacifies me :)

    I think this RNG is totally out of spirit of ESO,

    It is surely in a spirit of good old ESO. That ESO where you didn't obtain heavy divine helm for monthes, didn't obtain any vMA bow (even the Weighted one) for 80 runs, didn't obtain IA lightning staff for year.

    To be honest, it would be good to have curated drop from Undaunted shoulder coffers. Nobody have to suffer over them.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Yeah... I just spent 50 keys to have all 3 weights of a set. Would have very much preferred if I could have spent only 15 keys.

    Then you wouldn't have a reason to run dungeons again and populate it so that other players can use your manpower to get those done for whatever reason. The system is about keeping things alive (even if it hurts you as an individual).

    that logic doesnt really work

    right now i dont usually do pledges often because whats the point of spending keys if im not gonna get what i want lol

    i have almost 200 keys, and i refuse to spend them on uncurated boxes, so theres nothing else to buy with them unless theres a monster arms pack that comes out or a new set of dungeons are released and i have nothing from the boxes

    i would actually do more pledges if i could buy the rest of the monster shoulders i needed in a curated fashion, but as i see it right now, i have no reason to bother wasting keys if im not going to get what i want
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  • Amottica
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Yeah... I just spent 50 keys to have all 3 weights of a set. Would have very much preferred if I could have spent only 15 keys.

    50 Keys is nothing compared to the stories I have heard about how it used to be. They used to have to keep spending keys, rolling for the shoulders of the correct weight and trait. Being able to change the trait makes the effort and time to get the correct shoulder a fraction of what it used to be.

    On top of that, we can recreate a shoulder in any trait we want to help equip other characters. We have to do very little to get the shoulder we want these days. I have over a thousand keys after just two years of playing because of how easy it is to get the right shoulder.


  • festegios
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    Bring back uncurrated dungeon drops I say. Let us all relish in the suffering of farming for a specific weapon
  • Yas78
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    Just so let you know, after opening 30+ boxes - I always get a shoulder piece I dont have yet.
    It seems we've been heard, and this is absolutely amazing change. Totally appreciated!
  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

    We have closed this topic as it was originally created in July 2023. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

    Thank you for your understanding.
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