Scrivener's Hall book furnishings

katanagirl1

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Those of you who got furnishing books, are they all unique or did you get duplicates? Since they are bound, getting duplicates would seem to me to reinforce that it is a bug.

They are bound, you do get duplicates, but I have not yet.

I don’t recall anyone saying that they got duplicates, which is why I asked. If for some reason they were intended to be bound, then they should all be unique.

Conversely, if they are not intended to be bound, then getting duplicates indicates a bug.

EDIT: clarification

XoXJulietteXoX

katanagirl1 wrote: »

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Those of you who got furnishing books, are they all unique or did you get duplicates? Since they are bound, getting duplicates would seem to me to reinforce that it is a bug.

They are bound, you do get duplicates, but I have not yet.

I don’t recall anyone saying that they got duplicates, which is why I asked. If for some reason they were intended to be bound, then they should all be unique.

Conversely, if they are not intended to be bound, then getting duplicates indicates a bug.

EDIT: clarification

No. Because we have how many houses that need to be filled? Some of us like the books so we want one in each house. This dungeon is just going to be a 10 year dungeon to get everything from it. If anything, that's the bug. Getting duplicates is not a bug.

katanagirl1

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Those of you who got furnishing books, are they all unique or did you get duplicates? Since they are bound, getting duplicates would seem to me to reinforce that it is a bug.

They are bound, you do get duplicates, but I have not yet.

I don’t recall anyone saying that they got duplicates, which is why I asked. If for some reason they were intended to be bound, then they should all be unique.

Conversely, if they are not intended to be bound, then getting duplicates indicates a bug.

EDIT: clarification

No. Because we have how many houses that need to be filled? Some of us like the books so we want one in each house. This dungeon is just going to be a 10 year dungeon to get everything from it. If anything, that's the bug. Getting duplicates is not a bug.

That is something I did not consider because getting a full and complete set of those books once would be nearly impossible for me. I guess I was also thinking they might be a collectible or something where you did not need to get more than one each. I have not seen any myself due to not having any group other than a random group finder group to even try to get them. Fake tank and fake healer leave after wiping on first boss and can never find guild mates to do a run.

XoXJulietteXoX

katanagirl1 wrote: »

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Those of you who got furnishing books, are they all unique or did you get duplicates? Since they are bound, getting duplicates would seem to me to reinforce that it is a bug.

They are bound, you do get duplicates, but I have not yet.

I don’t recall anyone saying that they got duplicates, which is why I asked. If for some reason they were intended to be bound, then they should all be unique.

Conversely, if they are not intended to be bound, then getting duplicates indicates a bug.

EDIT: clarification

No. Because we have how many houses that need to be filled? Some of us like the books so we want one in each house. This dungeon is just going to be a 10 year dungeon to get everything from it. If anything, that's the bug. Getting duplicates is not a bug.

That is something I did not consider because getting a full and complete set of those books once would be nearly impossible for me. I guess I was also thinking they might be a collectible or something where you did not need to get more than one each. I have not seen any myself due to not having any group other than a random group finder group to even try to get them. Fake tank and fake healer leave after wiping on first boss and can never find guild mates to do a run.

You can add me. Same psn name... I will run you through enough to also do secret boss. I have done Scrivener's at least 75x. No lie! I have only gotten a handful of furnishings as well, so I see your point. It's going to take years to get all the furnishings. I am kind of burnt out on Scriveners. But, will help you at least key farm.

katanagirl1

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

XoXJulietteXoX wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Those of you who got furnishing books, are they all unique or did you get duplicates? Since they are bound, getting duplicates would seem to me to reinforce that it is a bug.

They are bound, you do get duplicates, but I have not yet.

I don’t recall anyone saying that they got duplicates, which is why I asked. If for some reason they were intended to be bound, then they should all be unique.

Conversely, if they are not intended to be bound, then getting duplicates indicates a bug.

EDIT: clarification

No. Because we have how many houses that need to be filled? Some of us like the books so we want one in each house. This dungeon is just going to be a 10 year dungeon to get everything from it. If anything, that's the bug. Getting duplicates is not a bug.

That is something I did not consider because getting a full and complete set of those books once would be nearly impossible for me. I guess I was also thinking they might be a collectible or something where you did not need to get more than one each. I have not seen any myself due to not having any group other than a random group finder group to even try to get them. Fake tank and fake healer leave after wiping on first boss and can never find guild mates to do a run.

You can add me. Same psn name... I will run you through enough to also do secret boss. I have done Scrivener's at least 75x. No lie! I have only gotten a handful of furnishings as well, so I see your point. It's going to take years to get all the furnishings. I am kind of burnt out on Scriveners. But, will help you at least key farm.

Hey thanks for the offer. I have some guys who run dungeons with me a few days out of the week but we are always too short on the day of the pledge. If this happens I might look you up.

RevJJ

125 keys in, still zero book furnishings.

I now only do this dungeon if a guildie asks for help because the drop rates of these furnishings are, as many other things lately, beginning to feel like a big middle finger to the players. Not sure if that’s how ZOS wants players to feel about their content.

zsquared8080

I know this is an old thread, but wanted to chime in with what other threads are finding with the new books in IA and other zone chests.

In order for the book to show up in the loot table at all, it first needs to be in that character's Eidetic Memory. That is, you need to have found the book previously in other ESO content (in the wild / on a bookshelf), on that character, and read it. I'm guessing this is why the books are BOP -- if they were tradeable, you could acquire a book you haven't previously read.

Dalsinthus

RevJJ wrote: »

125 keys in, still zero book furnishings.

I now only do this dungeon if a guildie asks for help because the drop rates of these furnishings are, as many other things lately, beginning to feel like a big middle finger to the players. Not sure if that’s how ZOS wants players to feel about their content.

This sort of thing is honestly my biggest complaint about ESO right now. Setting drop rates this low feels like the game (and by extension the people creating the game) doesn't respect the players or their time. It's such a great game overall, but things like this diminish its greatness.

Dalsinthus

iplaysolo wrote: »

I know this is an old thread, but wanted to chime in with what other threads are finding with the new books in IA and other zone chests.

In order for the book to show up in the loot table at all, it first needs to be in that character's Eidetic Memory. That is, you need to have found the book previously in other ESO content (in the wild / on a bookshelf), on that character, and read it. I'm guessing this is why the books are BOP -- if they were tradeable, you could acquire a book you haven't previously read.

Really insightful. Thank you.

Ayalockheart

For what is worth, I have made a Necrom / Scribes / Secrets Book Checklist - See google sheets link below

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IiMk3MKzyxADQhSg12pxAinOZ3fbmsgBr4f0krof8nY/edit?usp=sharing

Araneae6537

iplaysolo wrote: »

I know this is an old thread, but wanted to chime in with what other threads are finding with the new books in IA and other zone chests.

In order for the book to show up in the loot table at all, it first needs to be in that character's Eidetic Memory. That is, you need to have found the book previously in other ESO content (in the wild / on a bookshelf), on that character, and read it. I'm guessing this is why the books are BOP -- if they were tradeable, you could acquire a book you haven't previously read.

Thank you so much for this information! Do you know whether these books are found (to be read) somewhere within the dungeon? Or are they elsewhere in the world? Or some of both?

Edit: I recognize some of these titles from being available from Filer Ool — some are definitely in the world. I don’t always do much overland with the characters I run dungeons with — to the library!

Ayalockheart wrote: »

For what is worth, I have made a Necrom / Scribes / Secrets Book Checklist - See google sheets link below

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IiMk3MKzyxADQhSg12pxAinOZ3fbmsgBr4f0krof8nY/edit?usp=sharing

Awesome — thank you!!!

dcrush

iplaysolo wrote: »

I know this is an old thread, but wanted to chime in with what other threads are finding with the new books in IA and other zone chests.

In order for the book to show up in the loot table at all, it first needs to be in that character's Eidetic Memory. That is, you need to have found the book previously in other ESO content (in the wild / on a bookshelf), on that character, and read it. I'm guessing this is why the books are BOP -- if they were tradeable, you could acquire a book you haven't previously read.

This was indeed recently mentioned by @ZOS_Kevin in another thread about IA books.

However, as far as I can find, this was the first time it was ever mentioned that those books need to be in your Eidetic Memory in order for them to drop.

Scrivener’s Hall was released on pc on the 13th of March 2023. Meaning that the first time the information about prerequisites for drops was given nine months later. Meanwhile people had been running this dungeon more than fifty times in order to get those drops. Another example of a massive communication fail.

tsaescishoeshiner

I'm also not looking forward to finding all these books on any DPS character that I do Scrivener's Hall/the Archive on. I wish they would check for if you've read it accountwide, not on each character.

I suppose the only benefit is being able to target farm them this way—assuming you know which books each separate character has read, or unlocked Eidetic Memory on them all.

It's a nice idea, but it makes the gameplay here too complex and limiting.

Araneae6537

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

I'm also not looking forward to finding all these books on any DPS character that I do Scrivener's Hall/the Archive on. I wish they would check for if you've read it accountwide, not on each character.

I suppose the only benefit is being able to target farm them this way—assuming you know which books each separate character has read, or unlocked Eidetic Memory on them all.

It's a nice idea, but it makes the gameplay here too complex and limiting.

You can visit a library on each character (see Tharnes and Noble in the Housing forum if you’re on PC NA). It will at least unlock a good number of books for you. I still have yet to get a book or indeed any furnishing from the dungeon though.

ElderOfTamriel

RevJJ wrote: »

125 keys in, still zero book furnishings.

I now only do this dungeon if a guildie asks for help because the drop rates of these furnishings are, as many other things lately, beginning to feel like a big middle finger to the players. Not sure if that’s how ZOS wants players to feel about their content.

i completelly agree, i mean it would be a different story if the furnishing would not be bound. i like the concept of rare items beeing available but thats just plain stupid.

@ZOS_Kevin i feel like you want to forward that to the dev team, make those damn banners and books unbound. Or atleast explain why they should be bound when the hall door vault is not. I never hear any explanations/clarifications from you, you probably wanna start with it?

Araneae6537

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

RevJJ wrote: »

125 keys in, still zero book furnishings.

I now only do this dungeon if a guildie asks for help because the drop rates of these furnishings are, as many other things lately, beginning to feel like a big middle finger to the players. Not sure if that’s how ZOS wants players to feel about their content.

i completelly agree, i mean it would be a different story if the furnishing would not be bound. i like the concept of rare items beeing available but thats just plain stupid.

@ZOS_Kevin i feel like you want to forward that to the dev team, make those damn banners and books unbound. Or atleast explain why they should be bound when the hall door vault is not. I never hear any explanations/clarifications from you, you probably wanna start with it?

I LOVE all the new book furnishings but I agree with the frustration at their being bound — it would be great to be able to exchange duplicates and for people not interested in housing to still have a valuable drop to exchange or sell.

I would have rather seen the book furnishings treat having read them rather like dungeon motif drops treat having completed hardmode — much more likely to drop, but not bound and not impossible to get otherwise.

@ElderOfTamriel to be fair, I have seen more explanations from @ZOS_Kevin than anyone else and he is undoubtedly limited by official policy as to which questions and exactly how he can reply.

ElderOfTamriel

Araneae6537 wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

RevJJ wrote: »

125 keys in, still zero book furnishings.

I now only do this dungeon if a guildie asks for help because the drop rates of these furnishings are, as many other things lately, beginning to feel like a big middle finger to the players. Not sure if that’s how ZOS wants players to feel about their content.

i completelly agree, i mean it would be a different story if the furnishing would not be bound. i like the concept of rare items beeing available but thats just plain stupid.

@ZOS_Kevin i feel like you want to forward that to the dev team, make those damn banners and books unbound. Or atleast explain why they should be bound when the hall door vault is not. I never hear any explanations/clarifications from you, you probably wanna start with it?

I LOVE all the new book furnishings but I agree with the frustration at their being bound — it would be great to be able to exchange duplicates and for people not interested in housing to still have a valuable drop to exchange or sell.

I would have rather seen the book furnishings treat having read them rather like dungeon motif drops treat having completed hardmode — much more likely to drop, but not bound and not impossible to get otherwise.

@ElderOfTamriel to be fair, I have seen more explanations from @ZOS_Kevin than anyone else and he is undoubtedly limited by official policy as to which questions and exactly how he can reply.

that might be true in your case but as far as i experienced ive never received any valuable answer on ANY of my questions. I even opened a ticket and kindly asked if they might provide me some informations on rare furnishing items which i do collect, they have not answered 1 single question and just repeatedly said, that would only know developers and they do not respond to tickets. I can see that they have surely a lot of work and probably better things to do than answering tickets, but since only they know, they couldve forwarded my questions to them imo.

I asked about 5-6 questions which i gathered in the past year while collecting stuff and not a single one has been answered. Neither have i ever received an answer on the forum here when i tagged any of the moderators. I feel like i took the p*ss... i feel like they did not take me serious and thats very frustrating

Araneae6537

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Araneae6537 wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

RevJJ wrote: »

125 keys in, still zero book furnishings.

I now only do this dungeon if a guildie asks for help because the drop rates of these furnishings are, as many other things lately, beginning to feel like a big middle finger to the players. Not sure if that’s how ZOS wants players to feel about their content.

i completelly agree, i mean it would be a different story if the furnishing would not be bound. i like the concept of rare items beeing available but thats just plain stupid.

@ZOS_Kevin i feel like you want to forward that to the dev team, make those damn banners and books unbound. Or atleast explain why they should be bound when the hall door vault is not. I never hear any explanations/clarifications from you, you probably wanna start with it?

I LOVE all the new book furnishings but I agree with the frustration at their being bound — it would be great to be able to exchange duplicates and for people not interested in housing to still have a valuable drop to exchange or sell.

I would have rather seen the book furnishings treat having read them rather like dungeon motif drops treat having completed hardmode — much more likely to drop, but not bound and not impossible to get otherwise.

@ElderOfTamriel to be fair, I have seen more explanations from @ZOS_Kevin than anyone else and he is undoubtedly limited by official policy as to which questions and exactly how he can reply.

that might be true in your case but as far as i experienced ive never received any valuable answer on ANY of my questions. I even opened a ticket and kindly asked if they might provide me some informations on rare furnishing items which i do collect, they have not answered 1 single question and just repeatedly said, that would only know developers and they do not respond to tickets. I can see that they have surely a lot of work and probably better things to do than answering tickets, but since only they know, they couldve forwarded my questions to them imo.

I asked about 5-6 questions which i gathered in the past year while collecting stuff and not a single one has been answered. Neither have i ever received an answer on the forum here when i tagged any of the moderators. I feel like i took the p*ss... i feel like they did not take me serious and thats very frustrating

I am sorry, that is frustrating!

Ruj

dcrush wrote: »

iplaysolo wrote: »

I know this is an old thread, but wanted to chime in with what other threads are finding with the new books in IA and other zone chests.

In order for the book to show up in the loot table at all, it first needs to be in that character's Eidetic Memory. That is, you need to have found the book previously in other ESO content (in the wild / on a bookshelf), on that character, and read it. I'm guessing this is why the books are BOP -- if they were tradeable, you could acquire a book you haven't previously read.

This was indeed recently mentioned by @ZOS_Kevin in another thread about IA books.

However, as far as I can find, this was the first time it was ever mentioned that those books need to be in your Eidetic Memory in order for them to drop.

Scrivener’s Hall was released on pc on the 13th of March 2023. Meaning that the first time the information about prerequisites for drops was given nine months later. Meanwhile people had been running this dungeon more than fifty times in order to get those drops. Another example of a massive communication fail.

This is really disheartening to hear.

I've been running that dungeon SO many times. I wondered why my boyfriend kept getting book drops from the chests while I got none

3 weeks of running this dungeon in a row and doing nothing else in ESO when the patch first went live.
I finally gave up, but every once in a while, I'd do the dungeon again for 8-10 hours on a free day.

Why wasn't this included in patch notes??

I finally know the answer because I'm a housing afficionado who reads a bunch of housing threads. What about players who don't dig this deep into finding information? They are still running the dungeon repeatedly in hopes they will get the book furnishings.

I wish they would at least make a big official announcement. Enough to reach players that don't dive deep into the Housing section of ESO forums.

March 2023 to end of January 2024 without this info </3 What a colossal waste of time.

Ruj

Glorious Upheaval


Lorebooks addon says it's RNG bookshelves from Shadowfen, but the ESO wiki says it's RNG books from Imperial City (PvP area) sewers.



For me it was in Imperial City Temple District. RNG bookshelf.

thecatsme0w

I have gotten many of the Scriveners Hall books to drop out of chests in IA so I quit running SH and I just run IA now (leads + books).

BuffNukem

thecatsme0w wrote: »

I have gotten many of the Scriveners Hall books to drop out of chests in IA so I quit running SH and I just run IA now (leads + books).

I hate to break it to you, but none of the 21 Scrivener's Hall books drop in IA. IA has it's own unique set of 65 bound book furnishings to collect.

ElderOfTamriel

thecatsme0w wrote: »

I have gotten many of the Scriveners Hall books to drop out of chests in IA so I quit running SH and I just run IA now (leads + books).

Ye, Scrivener's Hall books only drop from vault chests or they can be bought from Ool Merchant within a cycle. Check out those links:

All book furnishings: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/645722/furnishings-that-can-be-farmed-with-their-drop-location-rare-drops/p1
Ool Merchant wares: https://eso-hub.com/en/merchant-ool

Also, have anyone found these books in the wild in order to drop them from Scrivener's Hall chests? They both should drop from bookshelves in Shadowfenn but i have tried for a while and havent gotten them. A guy from my guild who almost have collected all the Eidetic Memory books was also missing those 2 so i wondered if anyone collected them yet.

• Glorious Upheaval
• Thwarting the Daedra: Dagon's Cult

Any hints are highly appreciated

ElderOfTamriel

Ruj wrote: »

Glorious Upheaval


Lorebooks addon says it's RNG bookshelves from Shadowfen, but the ESO wiki says it's RNG books from Imperial City (PvP area) sewers.



For me it was in Imperial City Temple District. RNG bookshelf.

oh i completelly missed that... thanks @Ruj !

Thwarting the Daedra: Dagon's Cult seems to be also from Imperial City bookshelves.

Alphawolf01A

BuffNukem wrote: »

thecatsme0w wrote: »

I have gotten many of the Scriveners Hall books to drop out of chests in IA so I quit running SH and I just run IA now (leads + books).

I hate to break it to you, but none of the 21 Scrivener's Hall books drop in IA. IA has it's own unique set of 65 bound book furnishings to collect.

That is not true. I have had the list of book for Scriveners for some time and only got 1 book from it while in there. I have since received or bought a few of the Scriveners books from the Archives.

Araneae6537

Note that you do NOT have to complete Scrivener’s Hall to access the vault room. I now deposit my keys in the bank and then use them on a character that has found most of these books (working on finding them all). There is only a single mob to get past which was easily done even on my crafter with a companion specced to tank.

Araneae6537

Alphawolf01A wrote: »

BuffNukem wrote: »

thecatsme0w wrote: »

I have gotten many of the Scriveners Hall books to drop out of chests in IA so I quit running SH and I just run IA now (leads + books).

I hate to break it to you, but none of the 21 Scrivener's Hall books drop in IA. IA has it's own unique set of 65 bound book furnishings to collect.

That is not true. I have had the list of book for Scriveners for some time and only got 1 book from it while in there. I have since received or bought a few of the Scriveners books from the Archives.

They do not drop in IA but some have been available to purchase from Filer Ool, such as Memory Book 3 and Lord Hollowjack’s Dream Realm.

Alphawolf01A

Araneae6537 wrote: »

Alphawolf01A wrote: »

BuffNukem wrote: »

thecatsme0w wrote: »

I have gotten many of the Scriveners Hall books to drop out of chests in IA so I quit running SH and I just run IA now (leads + books).

I hate to break it to you, but none of the 21 Scrivener's Hall books drop in IA. IA has it's own unique set of 65 bound book furnishings to collect.

That is not true. I have had the list of book for Scriveners for some time and only got 1 book from it while in there. I have since received or bought a few of the Scriveners books from the Archives.

They do not drop in IA but some have been available to purchase from Filer Ool, such as Memory Book 3 and Lord Hollowjack’s Dream Realm.

Not trying to argue. I guess it's just a matter of semantics. My perspective is that if it is acquirable in Archive, be it dropped or bought with the Archive currency, it's the same thing. I get that they are not "technically" dropping there.

BuffNukem

Alphawolf01A wrote: »

That is not true. I have had the list of book for Scriveners for some time and only got 1 book from it while in there. I have since received or bought a few of the Scriveners books from the Archives.

It not a matter of semantics, what I said is completely true. The Scrivener's Hall books do NOT drop out of chests in IA, which was the statement that I was responding to. Yes, book furnishings from IA, SH, and likely BN in the future may be bought from Filer Ool, but they don't drop from chest running IA.

jmccormick

Offering 1 million gold if anyone has the book furnishing "Thwarting the Daedra: Dagon's Cult" from Scrivener's Hall in their home just for me to come read it. PC/NA