[SPOILER] A poll about the consequences of 2022 High Isle Lore

Scaletho

Considering ESO's High Isle chapter and subsequent stories, a peace talk between High King Emeric, Queen Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri and Jorunn the Skald-King(Prince Irnskar) will happen after the end of 2022 Breton lore.

I'm NOT saying that this will really happen but for the sake of my curiosity about ESO players opinion, would you agree with the possibility of an end of 3 Banners War, a complete overhaul of Cyrodiil map and another type of PvP war there?

The poll's question is hidden as SPOILER (click the button above) for it is related with the end of 2022 Breton Lore.

You can give your opinion. Or trash me about the absurdity of this poll, if you want. And no, I don't have a clear idea about which kind of war will be created.

ESO_Nightingale

I had hoped that this meeting would mean consequences for cyrodiil and next year as a major pvp update. But we really don't know anything.

robwolf666

Yes.

Yes, I would like the peace talks to succeed. That way, since there would be no war in Cyrodiil, it could be turned into a normal PvE zone with a new story. Then PvP could be given it's own separate game, so updates for the two types of game no longer cause problems for each other.

Aliyavana

No.

PVP in Cyrodiil doesn't even have to stop if the peace talks happen. Cyrodiil can just be locked in the past.

Supreme_Atromancer

I'd love to see the story of the 3BW progress. It feels very dated, now.

Given that the game is set during the Interregnum, it makes sense for some sort of conflict to remain, though. New alliances and new PvP locations would be pretty cool.

SkaraMinoc

Yes.

I want something new and exciting for PvP.

Carcamongus

Yes.

[Warning: this post contains a minor spoiler]

Considering traveling around Tamriel involves going back and forward in time, it wouldn't be unthinkable for the war to end but Cyrodiil PvP to remain. Spoiler example: the Perfect Pounce is destroyed prior to the events of High Isle, but if you travel to the Dragonguard base, you can still see the ship safely anchored there. I would still prefer they created a new PvP zone, though, especially if that meant improving performance and giving PvPers at least some of the changes they've been asking for years. Alternatively, a separate and peaceful PvE Cyrodiil could be added, without affecting the PvP one.

SilverBride

What is the question?

Wing

Yes.

lotro monster play

IC vs ALL

my dream

Amottica

robwolf666 wrote: »

Yes, I would like the peace talks to succeed. That way, since there would be no war in Cyrodiil, it could be turned into a normal PvE zone with a new story. Then PvP could be given it's own separate game, so updates for the two types of game no longer cause problems for each other.

Sorry but that will never happen. Besides BGs having nothing to do with the three banner war, PvP will not be spun off into a separate game. Theme park MMORPGs include PvP as one of the varied activities for us to enjoy.

RedTalon

Yes.

Could see it happening but sill will be a pvp version of it since they are not going to remove skill lines to fit a more pve one

Even if the three banner wars end could see another set up happening where a bunch of generals break off from their alliances and become the warlords we hear about in old lore before the coming of Talos and tha thje had to fight, so they could still do a three way war just different maybe work in each warlord being backed by a cult of a prince and so on

Just my thoughts on the matter, sorry for typos and errors

LesserCircle

Yes.

Please, anything new for PvP.

DinoZavr

The very idea of "play in any order" guarantees there are no consequences of 2022 High Isle Lore.
Imagine a new character is transferred to High Isle, does the Chapter story, then Firesong and Epilogue quest and only after that visits the mainland and starts the Main quest and Guilds questlines and joins the Cyrodiil campaign. What do you think is supposed to change if High Isle questline IS completed at that time?

Grizzbeorn

I don't know.

fizzylu

Yes.

At this point, I feel like the three banners war doesn't make sense.... and I'd just like to see Cyrodiil actually made better use of. I'd prefer to see them do some Cyrodiil style pvp the way GW2 does where it has it's own little instanced zone and not an actual huge chunk of the world map. FFXIV also does their faction pvp based around it being "training" haha I find it a bit odd, but I guess it works in the sense of keeping the different factions technically at peace yet still allowing pvp between them. ESO could also expand upon the different teams in battlegrounds. As of right now, I know nothing about the different teams haha so maybe giving them some more lore and having a separate faction you join for pvp could make for some interesting gameplay/progression if they did it right.

deleted221205-002626

No.

I dont think cyro needs an overhaul.. It does need any and all pve reasons to be there removed.. fishing, dungeons, gold vendor etc.. ANY reason to be there other than the pvp objective is what fills the pop cap and doesn't help your alliance at all!

DinoZavr

@sinnereso.i Agree. What Cyro really needs the most are the performance upgrades.
But i'd like Golden Kitty to stay. Some DLC dungeons are insanely hard (and a few are impossible) to solo.
Also, what about Cyro skyshards? I'd prefer them to stay "as is", as PVE is already totally dominating and the "easy mode" is unhealthy for any MMO (imho).

Artim_X

No.

VaranisArano

No.

SilverBride wrote: »

What is the question?

Without High Isle spoilers:

"would you agree with the possibility of an end of 3 Banners War, a complete overhaul of Cyrodiil map and another type of PvP war there?"

Dr_Con

robwolf666 wrote: »

Yes, I would like the peace talks to succeed. That way, since there would be no war in Cyrodiil, it could be turned into a normal PvE zone with a new story. Then PvP could be given it's own separate game, so updates for the two types of game no longer cause problems for each other.

I disagree and think this would kill most of the buzz this game has. Many of us spend more than 50% of or time PVE'ing but PVP is what draws people in, even if it's broken. There's also Imperial City what are you supposed to do with that? Refund everyone a DLC that you wound up giving to everyone for free?

The storyboarding got people talking about an end to the war, the storyboarding can get them out of people constantly bringing this up each week.

Let the red-headed girl from Riften be a cover story for Jorun's absence, have him in meetings with his generals and spies who learned of AD and DC seeking foreign aid/technology from across the sea to further the war and expand the playable map to multiple continents.

Let there be no room for for this silly thing we call peace.

MyNameIsElias

Yes.

i would be extremely dissapointed if the beginning of the peace talks was the last we'd ever hear about this.

Katheriah

No.

robwolf666 wrote: »

Yes, I would like the peace talks to succeed. That way, since there would be no war in Cyrodiil, it could be turned into a normal PvE zone with a new story. Then PvP could be given it's own separate game, so updates for the two types of game no longer cause problems for each other.

Ideas like this is the reason I vote 'NO'

Changes to PvP? Yes. Fixing PvP? YES!
Cyro as a PvE zone? By the gods, please, no. Don't give them ideas like that.

ZOS_Icy

Greetings,

This thread has been moved to the Lore section, as it is better suited there.

Thank you for your understanding.

chessalavakia_ESO

Lore Wise:

I'd like to see the rulers finding out they don't have the control to fully end the war and the the Ascendant Order is even more dangerous with the leadership dead.

Gameplay Wise:

I think it's really messy. Cyrodiil has a very dedicated population core population. It's the only part of the game I play where I regularly see significant numbers of people above my CP level. However, is designed for coordinated group slanted play, high levels of optimization in gearing, and slanted towards winner take all. That isn't really a great match for ESO's current population.

So, you get to pick between keeping the status quo, continue following the current design that doesn't really work well for most people but does work relatively well for some people that have been enjoying it for years, or you can take a different approach and hope it works better and basically ruin a section of the game that a small number of people love.

Personally, I'd lean towards having the next story not touch on the war and hope that either Cyrodiil's numbers bounce back enough to clearly justify further investment or Cyrodiil's numbers die down enough to reduce the resistance to taking another path.

KingArthasMenethil

No.

There is no consequences. The "Play in any order" has made sure of that nothing can advance and nothing can change.
Characters we've met before cannot act like they've changed in the past because the quest writing must at the very least treat them as though you've never done their quests.

Scaletho

SilverBride wrote: »

What is the question?

The question is hidden as "spoiler".

deleted221205-002626

No.

DinoZavr wrote: »

@sinnereso.i Agree. What Cyro really needs the most are the performance upgrades.
But i'd like Golden Kitty to stay. Some DLC dungeons are insanely hard (and a few are impossible) to solo.
Also, what about Cyro skyshards? I'd prefer them to stay "as is", as PVE is already totally dominating and the "easy mode" is unhealthy for any MMO (imho).

The main issue with the golden kitty is it arrives 8pm EST during primetime on the busiest night of the week. 1/2 to 3/4 of the queue is literally people coming for vendor and not even pvp! You enjoy waiting an hour to get in for no reason at all?

Elsonso

No.

I don't think ZOS is desperate enough to end the war. Yet.

If ZOS leaves it alone, it will just continue to simmer until Tiber Septim comes along.

tsaescishoeshiner

No.

No, because practically all the zones currently refer to Three Banners War in some way, even if the overarching plot in that zone doesn't involve it.

Cyrodiil's quests and zone could be rewritten, but it's a huge zone and AvAvA is a huge system, so I'm not 100% sure how the development time on that would be justified if it wasn't sold as a Chapter or something.

TheGent

I wish choice and consequence played a bigger role in this game. I wish that every RPG had C&C at there core. Like Dragon Age: Origins

Vrienda

Yes.

I’d love to see Cyrodiil be remastered as a PvE zone. PvP can stay as it is with us all pretending it’s a historical retelling.

I mostly just want the actual plot to move forward and not be stuck in 582 forever.