Not very sure of how traits works

RazielSR

Can some of you explain to me a little bit?

Honn

Traits can be found on dropped items, and the best traits are found from Dungeon drops.
To craft a trait, you must 1st learn that trait for that type of item which takes some time. The more you attempt to learn traits a from a specific item type, the longer it takes....so start learning early to take advantage of the specialized crafting stations around the maps.
A trait and Enchant is different, so don't get them mixed up.
Traits are permanent bonuses, unlike enchants that run out of charge & must be recharged with Soul gems.

For example, a trait could be increased armor value of a piece of gear, ignoring xx% of enemy armor etc etc.

RazielSR

Ok so I guess traits are about grouping dungeons, etc. Many thanks for your answer!

Ronnie

Honn wrote: »

Traits can be found on dropped items, and the best traits are found from Dungeon drops.
To craft a trait, you must 1st learn that trait for that type of item which takes some time. The more you attempt to learn traits a from a specific item type, the longer it takes....so start learning early to take advantage of the specialized crafting stations around the maps.
A trait and Enchant is different, so don't get them mixed up.
Traits are permanent bonuses, unlike enchants that run out of charge & must be recharged with Soul gems.

For example, a trait could be increased armor value of a piece of gear, ignoring xx% of enemy armor etc etc.

thanks i can finally understand this now

Elshiro

So from what I understand, you research an item to learn its trait. But what are the items I find/deconstruct such as Emerald which is labeled as a "Armor Trait" item? Do I first need to learn the emerald's trait from researching, then use the emerald in crafting?

Honn

Elshiro wrote: »

So from what I understand, you research an item to learn its trait. But what are the items I find/deconstruct such as Emerald which is labeled as a "Armor Trait" item? Do I first need to learn the emerald's trait from researching, then use the emerald in crafting?

You get an item either a drop or one bought from another crafter, and research it. Its trait will be categorized under specific headings. For example, extra damage might be under the heading of "Sharpened" etc.
Now that you know the trait, you can craft an item, but only the type that you researched ( I.E one handed sword). This means that you cannot add this trait to a bow, because the bow trait was not researched, only the one handed sword.

I don't know which materials are needed to craft each trait, but yes, the trait will cost a material item to craft it, like the Emerald that you mentioned. These items can be found throughout the world, and randomly obtained via deconstructing items. You have a better chance of obtaining crafting items if you invest skill points into the craft in question. They may also be purchased from the crafting merchant (if Im remembering correctly).

so in short...
1) Aquire item
2) Research
3) Obtain required material
4) Craft new item (same as the one you researched) with the trait.

Note: The best traits are apparently on Dungeon drops, but the best stats on gear is from crafted gear. So its going to be a choice on whether the trait is more worth while than the stats for your purposes.
Dungeon drops can be improved via crafting, but will not be as good as improved crafted stats. Also, crafted traits are not as good as Dungeon drops.

I hope this answers your questions. If not, I suggest you google Elderscrolls online Traits and browse through the sites it pulls up.

rhunrunnerub17_ESO

Honn wrote: »

Now that you know the trait, you can craft an item, but only the type that you researched ( I.E one handed sword). This means that you cannot add this trait to a bow, because the bow trait was not researched, only the one handed sword.

One other thing that I noticed was that traits also seem to be dependent on the armor type. I researched a sprint reduction trait from cloth gloves, but I can't apply that trait to leather gloves I want to craft.

Personally, I think this makes crafting far too complicated, severely limits it's value, dumps a lot of excess stuff in our inventories, and introduces far too much RNG.

Stienbjorn

Each trait type, there are like 8 have to be researched for each item individually, the reason for this seems pretty obvious, to make sure people specialize. You could learn all traits in all crafting but it would take an enormous amount of time.

uninclined

"rhunrunnerub17_ESO wrote: »

One other thing that I noticed was that traits also seem to be dependent on the armor type. I researched a sprint reduction trait from cloth gloves, but I can't apply that trait to leather gloves I want to craft.

Personally, I think this makes crafting far too complicated, severely limits it's value, dumps a lot of excess stuff in our inventories, and introduces far too much RNG.

crafting in TES has always been a chore. the crafting experience that the devs have created feels exactly like picking your 5 skills for end game. having crafting this way does the complete opposite of limits its value by making a player seek out another player who has the trait they desire. this gives more worth to the crafter...

Tirocupidus

FYI, I believe you'll need to know specific traits to craft set items.

csillver_ESO

Traits effect the process youre doing as long as you are using the item correct? i.e. damage reduction vs fire, speed boost etc? Do they stack? Speed boost gloves with speed boots greaves?

Tirocupidus

csillver_ESO wrote: »

Traits effect the process youre doing as long as you are using the item correct? i.e. damage reduction vs fire, speed boost etc? Do they stack? Speed boost gloves with speed boots greaves?

You seem to be talking about enchantments, but yes, both traits and enchantments stack without restriction, as far as I know. And you have to wear an item to gain its bonuses, whatever they are.

csillver_ESO

Actually no, specifically traits. Some traits have that worth x amount % more to vendor upon selling, which I would think would be instead of 10gp you 12. When you sell it. Others are give inspiration of x amount during extraction. Some of the wording is different than on others, whereas you would think only that item would be a one time use, the others seem like they would stay with you while you do a process?

beryllium

when I have researched traits on a specific item (say a greatsword) and am crafting that item, I can create it but there is an "x' in the traits spot and no apparent way to access and select a trait or traits for that item. I realize it must be the same item that was researched but nothing I do accesses researched traits..what am I doing wrong? (E.G. I get "sturdy" from a pair of iron sabotons but when i go to make iron sabatons (boots) the "sturdy" trait doesn't show up anywhere...:(

seanolan

beryllium wrote: »

when I have researched traits on a specific item (say a greatsword) and am crafting that item, I can create it but there is an "x' in the traits spot and no apparent way to access and select a trait or traits for that item. I realize it must be the same item that was researched but nothing I do accesses researched traits..what am I doing wrong? (E.G. I get "sturdy" from a pair of iron sabotons but when i go to make iron sabatons (boots) the "sturdy" trait doesn't show up anywhere...:(

Do you have the appropriate gem in inventory/bank? Without the correct gem, the trait will not be available in the menu.

beryllium

Since I made that post, I realized needing a gem, however, now I see the gem location and type but if I don't have it, then it is blacked out. That said, now how do I find more and a variety of gems besides deconstructing items with those characteristics, which is a needle in a haystack approach...I like a well rounded character so spending skill points to improve my blacksmithing is a dime-in-a-candy-shop sort of issue (that dates me)....any and all suggestions welcome!

glasswalkers_04_ESO

beryllium wrote: »

Since I made that post, I realized needing a gem, however, now I see the gem location and type but if I don't have it, then it is blacked out. That said, now how do I find more and a variety of gems besides deconstructing items with those characteristics, which is a needle in a haystack approach...I like a well rounded character so spending skill points to improve my blacksmithing is a dime-in-a-candy-shop sort of issue (that dates me)....any and all suggestions welcome!

Short answer: you don't. From Bea on the only place I've gotten trait stones is from deconstructing gear. I've not found in chests or on mob drops, nor can you purchase them anywhere like the style metals.

Aiura

I have put points into all the passives associated with black smithing, and am at the level where I can craft using orichalcum. When I try to craft a level 26 weapon (3 levels above my current level), and put a trait on it, I am unable to do so- all traits are blacked out and the comment "must be researched" beneath. My problem is that I have researched at least 2 traits for every weapon, and I have in the bank the appropriate gemstone for each trait. I have no idea why I cannot add any trait. I had no trouble adding a trait to a weapon of my level, so I'm wondering of that is the issue, but I can't imagine that crafters would be restricted to only crafting for their own level or lower. Any ideas?

Woolenthreads

glasswalkers_04_ESO wrote: »

Short answer: you don't. From Bea on the only place I've gotten trait stones is from deconstructing gear. I've not found in chests or on mob drops, nor can you purchase them anywhere like the style metals.

No, the traits still drop from refining too. It's a uncommon occurrence but it does happen.

VampiricOmen

Tirocupidus wrote: »

FYI, I believe you'll need to know specific traits to craft set items.

I have traits researched in a scatterbrained manner and I have not had any troubles creating set items at locations provided I meet the minimum number of traits researched count.

beryllium wrote: »

Since I made that post, I realized needing a gem, however, now I see the gem location and type but if I don't have it, then it is blacked out. That said, now how do I find more and a variety of gems besides deconstructing items with those characteristics, which is a needle in a haystack approach...I like a well rounded character so spending skill points to improve my blacksmithing is a dime-in-a-candy-shop sort of issue (that dates me)....any and all suggestions welcome!

There should be somewhere on the crafting UI that you can check "Have Items". This way, it will only show which items you can craft as you have the necessary materials on hand or in your bank.

Trait stones are obtained a variety of ways. Thus far, the ones I have come across are listed below:

Refining materials - gives both weapon and armour trait stones.
Looting Heavy Sacks - random chance of looting trait stones among other crafting materials, so this is not a sure fire way of obtaining them.
Deconstructing traited items - seems to only give the trait stone associated with the trait on the item, and even then not every time.

Heavy sacks can be found in places such as dungeons and battlefields, usually hidden although some are in plain sight. If you tend to loot everything you see, you will begin to notice spawn locations for them.

As I harvest just about every node I come across, refining has been my most reliable source of trait stones. Granted, the stones received are random and it is unpredictable if I will receive any at all, but nonetheless it's something to consider.

Elshiro wrote: »

Note: The best traits are apparently on Dungeon drops, but the best stats on gear is from crafted gear. So its going to be a choice on whether the trait is more worth while than the stats for your purposes.
Dungeon drops can be improved via crafting, but will not be as good as improved crafted stats. Also, crafted traits are not as good as Dungeon drops.

That explains why I am having difficulty finding certain traits, I don't visit group dungeons at all aside from the public ones. Thank you for that insightful post.

Lupinemw

I wouldn't say the best traits are on Dungeon drops at all. I got most of mine without doing dungeons. it's random. Though doing at least those dungeons that have Skyshards is a must if you want to keep the Skill Points flowing in.

You'll also find crafters will trade or sell low level traited items to others for research purpose.

huntgod_ESO

Do not mix terms either.

Trait is an inherent modifier on the item that is added by crafting (there are 8, they add different perks)

Enchantment is a damage/armor, skill or stat modifier that is added to the item with a Glyph (typically flame/frost etc. damage, additional armor, +magick/stam/hlth)

Set Bonus is a bonus you gain from having X items with that set ability, 3 or 5, like Warlock, Ashen Grip, etc.