PVP: What is the missing link? *I need help, too much sustain*

Aggrovious

I queue for BGs mostly, because Cyrodill leaves much to be desired. I go up against DK tanks and heals all stacked in a corner. At least it feels that way with most pvpers I encounter

How do you logically deal with this as a solo joe because my team all quit?

I go 1v1 vs a guy who happens to be tanky, but is a brawler build with heavy sustain.

How do you deal with this? I apply major defile, but it doesn't seem to work unless it's a very small window for burst maybe?

Currently running an Argonian Stam Sorc dual-wield weapon kuta enchant/sharpened trait werewolf with Clever Alchemist, oakensoul, and several different 5 pieces I have been going through with testing. I have looked into doing two bar setup again, but Reddit called me an idiot for not running oakensoul on a werewolf.

So here I am seeking out information that I can't find on youtube or that which is outdated due to patches.
I am not doing enough damage and am unsure how to fix my build for an effective PVP fighter. I have dueled with friends who run sorcerers and wardens. Sorcs destroy me and my awoo heal isn't enough.

How can you defeat so much tankiness and high sustain? What do I need to run?

Turtle_Bot

Maul_Rat wrote: »

I queue for BGs mostly, because Cyrodill leaves much to be desired. I go up against DK tanks and heals all stacked in a corner. At least it feels that way with most pvpers I encounter

How do you logically deal with this as a solo joe because my team all quit?

I go 1v1 vs a guy who happens to be tanky, but is a brawler build with heavy sustain.

How do you deal with this? I apply major defile, but it doesn't seem to work unless it's a very small window for burst maybe?

Currently running an Argonian Stam Sorc dual-wield weapon kuta enchant/sharpened trait werewolf with Clever Alchemist, oakensoul, and several different 5 pieces I have been going through with testing. I have looked into doing two bar setup again, but Reddit called me an idiot for not running oakensoul on a werewolf.

So here I am seeking out information that I can't find on youtube or that which is outdated due to patches.
I am not doing enough damage and am unsure how to fix my build for an effective PVP fighter. I have dueled with friends who run sorcerers and wardens. Sorcs destroy me and my awoo heal isn't enough.

How can you defeat so much tankiness and high sustain? What do I need to run?

There's not a lot that can be done. The current meta is to go for very high burst, which WW is not the greatest at anymore.

To help with damage, there are a few options.
1. Change race to Dark Elf, Khajit or Orc (not the best option since it costs crowns to do this).
2. Change jewelry enchants to have more weapon damage instead of sustain (this is assuming you haven't done this already).

Like I said, unfortunately there's not a lot that can be done. It's just a very tanky patch this patch and it didn't help that werewolf's essentially got double nerfed from the reduced dot tick frequency combined with the reduction to LA/HA damage as well as overall nerfs to the spec itself, both directly and indirectly due to sets like Mara's balm which really hammers WW builds as they have potent but short duration dots which means mara's will proc frequently when fighting against a WW as they have to constantly re-apply dots.

Thecompton73

Maul_Rat wrote: »

I queue for BGs mostly, because Cyrodill leaves much to be desired. I go up against DK tanks and heals all stacked in a corner. At least it feels that way with most pvpers I encounter

How do you logically deal with this as a solo joe because my team all quit?

I go 1v1 vs a guy who happens to be tanky, but is a brawler build with heavy sustain.

How do you deal with this? I apply major defile, but it doesn't seem to work unless it's a very small window for burst maybe?

Currently running an Argonian Stam Sorc dual-wield weapon kuta enchant/sharpened trait werewolf with Clever Alchemist, oakensoul, and several different 5 pieces I have been going through with testing. I have looked into doing two bar setup again, but Reddit called me an idiot for not running oakensoul on a werewolf.

So here I am seeking out information that I can't find on youtube or that which is outdated due to patches.
I am not doing enough damage and am unsure how to fix my build for an effective PVP fighter. I have dueled with friends who run sorcerers and wardens. Sorcs destroy me and my awoo heal isn't enough.

How can you defeat so much tankiness and high sustain? What do I need to run?

Unfortunately there's not much you can do to defeat those builds. Mitigation, vigor and class heals are all very strong right now while most forms of damage got heavily nerfed. At best you build the same and arrive at a stalemate with them. Then you find opponents with less sustain and play the boring meta of tanking them till they run out of resources and then bursting them while they can't heal, block, or break free.

DigiAngel

My templar healer hasn't activated the WW ult since U35....I literally do more damage NOT being a WW....which is a really sad thought.

Firstmep

For werewolf shapeshifters chain is far better than than oakensoul, those reddit ppl are clearly clueless..
If you wanna play ww I'd go for for pack leader morph with high wpd setup and maybe stuhns favor as the extra pen is really useful this patch.

duckdown

Its not ur build man. Its the dk. U cant just kill an experience dk thats it. Class r so overpowered.