New NB dark cloak. Huge problem. OP

Micah_Bayer

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

AndreNoir

So at last we will get something that can rival with an average DK ?

OnGodiDoDis

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

C'mon bro, you really think they play their own game?

Micah_Bayer

OnGodiDoDis wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

C'mon bro, you really think they play their own game?

I can't believe of the oversight, though...Jeez

Udrath

It’s going to be strong but dark cloak magblade are already weak. It could be dropped down a bit. It’s really easy to get that tooltip much much higher atm on PTS

React

Instead of allowing for a unique, consistent HOT that helped every non-invis nightblade spec perform, they decided to make it into something that is useless for most nightblades, but enables a broken playstyle for "troll tanks" to abuse. It's a shame, really.

Master_Kas

Didn't we already have this some patches ago? But then it was trolltank dark cloak-blades with meditate. xD

Dagobertfuk

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

Every half decent PvPer is bashcanceling his spammable. It will easly interrupt meditate nonstop and give it a small cd. + Its a wasted ability slot just to make DC more efficient.

Micah_Bayer

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

Every half decent PvPer is bashcanceling his spammable. It will easly interrupt meditate nonstop and give it a small cd. + Its a wasted ability slot just to make DC more efficient.

There's 8 seconds of immunity mixed with an immov pot. Once Dark cloak is clicked and mediate they have almost 20 aeconds of no bashing avaliable.

edward_frigidhands

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

Every half decent PvPer is bashcanceling his spammable. It will easly interrupt meditate nonstop and give it a small cd. + Its a wasted ability slot just to make DC more efficient.

There's 8 seconds of immunity mixed with an immov pot. Once Dark cloak is clicked and mediate they have almost 20 aeconds of no bashing avaliable.

Immovable does not provide Bash/Interrupt immunity.

Micah_Bayer

edward_frigidhands wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

Every half decent PvPer is bashcanceling his spammable. It will easly interrupt meditate nonstop and give it a small cd. + Its a wasted ability slot just to make DC more efficient.

There's 8 seconds of immunity mixed with an immov pot. Once Dark cloak is clicked and mediate they have almost 20 aeconds of no bashing avaliable.

Immovable does not provide Bash/Interrupt immunity.

You won't get interrupted if. Try it. That's why stam sorcs are able to dark deal in your face. Bash doesn't do anything.

Unified_Gaming

edward_frigidhands wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

Every half decent PvPer is bashcanceling his spammable. It will easly interrupt meditate nonstop and give it a small cd. + Its a wasted ability slot just to make DC more efficient.

There's 8 seconds of immunity mixed with an immov pot. Once Dark cloak is clicked and mediate they have almost 20 aeconds of no bashing avaliable.

Immovable does not provide Bash/Interrupt immunity.

It's a bug that has not been fixed for years. Bash/interrupt once triggered goes on cooldown and you can't bash them again for awhile on some skills/abilities. Dark deal is a great example of this. Also worked with cc immunity in capture the relic although I think that's been mostly patched.

Jeezye

So what? People trolling around spamming medidate and dark cloak is a problem? just walk past them, there's way stronger tank builds out there.

Two ability slots that actively deny you from participating in combat is not worth it.

Wolfpaw

Nice, more tank players to build ult on.

Micah_Bayer

Jeezye wrote: »

So what? People trolling around spamming medidate and dark cloak is a problem? just walk past them, there's way stronger tank builds out there.

Two ability slots that actively deny you from participating in combat is not worth it.

It's not just about tank builds.

axi

Jeezye wrote: »

So what? People trolling around spamming medidate and dark cloak is a problem? just walk past them, there's way stronger tank builds out there.

Two ability slots that actively deny you from participating in combat is not worth it.

It will be a problem in objective based BGs.

olsborg

The funny thing is...its still not gonna rival the selfhealing of a dk ;D

olsborg

There are dks literally doing this very thing rn with cinder storm. So why is it such a "huge problem" when its a different class?

axi

olsborg wrote: »

There are dks literally doing this very thing rn with cinder storm. So why is it such a "huge problem" when its a different class?

What are You even talking about. Cloak, especially new one in situations that are mentioned by OP will heal for way more than cinder storm does.

StaticWave

edward_frigidhands wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Dagobertfuk wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

If the combat team has never thought of a NB using mediate in conjunction with Dark cloak, then this is going to be bad going live. Like OP bad. Like unkillable NB brawlers that won't die, regain their resources, and get back into the fight whilst having an incredible advantage.

Every half decent PvPer is bashcanceling his spammable. It will easly interrupt meditate nonstop and give it a small cd. + Its a wasted ability slot just to make DC more efficient.

There's 8 seconds of immunity mixed with an immov pot. Once Dark cloak is clicked and mediate they have almost 20 aeconds of no bashing avaliable.

Immovable does not provide Bash/Interrupt immunity.

CC immunity does in fact provide Bash/Interrupt immunity.