HOW TO KILL THE PVP POPULATION ON CONSOLES

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Lebkuchen wrote: »

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

[...] System performance even in over land when new events first start take a hit, so does PVP zone. PVP zone are a bit laggy if you don't have the right IPS and system. [...]

Every update adds more to the game and when you load up a zone with more players than the system is designed to handle you will experience issues. The devs have stated that the game server architecture is approaching 10 years old and it needs to be adjusted; that alone could cause major issues given all of the updates done to the game since it launched.

Add to the issue you have proc sets, ball groups, more players in the zone than what the server can handle, etc... all of this adds to stressing the system and can result in serve performance issues.

Yeah lag isn't fun but its part of online gaming in MMO games. I've seen lag in EVERY MMO game I have played. Not just lag but some really bad rubber banding where I am on one part of a zone and next thing I know I'm where I loaded into the zone, which was over 30 minutes ago.

Even with the best possible setup on both the player and developer end there is always a chance for system performance issues.

In the first hour after maintenance (not update, no new content!) some of us started the game, went to Cyrodiil and wanted to play PvP in Gray Host. The event started 28th of July. The maintenance was on the 3rd of August. The event was not new. The servers were almost empty in the hour after maintenance, nobody played the game but a few people. But the performance was broken, in Gray Host. A lot worse than the days before, when the servers were full and there was a lot of action going on, before the maintenance. Nowhere else was the performance so bad, as far as i know. After a dodgeroll your bars stayed black for 5-6 seconds, abilities worked after pressing the buttons 5 or 6 times if you were lucky. For everyone in zonechat this was new, and a reason to talk about the unbelievably bad performance since the last maintenance, at least on Gray Host PS EU, for days! It's better now, but still with empty or half empty servers it is really bad most of the time. That's why people do not want to play there anymore. Many more people play in Blackreach than in Gray Host! Because it was not affected by the maintenance like Gray Host. The whole game has not beed working very good for years, but that's not what we want to talk about here. How often do we have to repeat it? We are talking about Gray Host here! After the last maintenance. Only Gray Host! Just Gray Host, nothing else!

I get why people have the urge to tell us their theories and repeat whatever they read somewhere... But it is not helping to ignore the fact that after this maintenance something special happened to Gray Host. Not the whole game, not the other campaigns, just Gray Host. And that's odd, isn't it?

I agree 100% with everything youre saying. GH was even laggy with only one bar AD , EP & DC 0 Bars and you could not cast skills, damage and healing was delayed. I play eso pvp since years and i went through a lot rough phases but it has honsetly never been worse then latetly. And again , we just had a event. Shouldnt it work better during the event to demonstrate how nice pvp can be for the people outside the pvp comminity ? No - nothing. And tbh i really think now after the pvp event ended the performance is gonna stay the same. We gonna have a unplayable greyhost and the other campaigns gonna be dead again.

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Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Honestly it was great on PC/NA. More crashes than usual, but only twice that I couldnt get right back in. Ill take the occasional crash over lag any day of the week.

Best MYM performance in 4 or 5 years. A few times it got a touch laggy in massive 3 way fights, but even those worked pretty darn well. I got about 9 mil AP over the week across 2 characters, so I was in there a decent amount.

Performance was so good in PVP that I resubbed and bought the chapter.

dayum im jeallous [snip]. Good for yous. Bad for us zos doesnt do the same with the console or pc eu servers.

[edited for profanity bypass]

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malistorr wrote: »

Yeah well they replaced those servers, not console. I have an Xbox Series X and am on wired half-gig fiber with no problems and performance has been absolutely horrible. This is in comparison to the same event over the past few years. My experience in 6-12 person groups with my guild in Blackreach is constant cursing by people not able to fire skills. I hear yelling, button/controller pounding, and people literally contemplating leaving the game for good because it's so bad.

im on ps5 and its the same .We have the next gen consoles and then the game works like this

MISTFORMBZZZ

Lebkuchen wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Honestly it was great on PC/NA.

I am glad PC NA is able to have fun. Gives us hope that things can change.

But i still wonder why that is. Can not be the servers, because we have been told ours are fine for many many years. Must be the crappy internet in Europe then. Or the weak hardware we have here. Or something else ZOS can not control and is not allowed to tell us. So i guess we do not have to sweat the useless server upgrade, right? /s

It must be the servers. Nothing else. If it works better on PC NA since the update its deffo in zos controll and they need to hurry up and deliver imo. The current performance is outragous.

MISTFORMBZZZ

update : the event ended and people abadoned pvp on PS EU. GH has 1 bar each, all other campaigns are empty. Its really scary to see it being so dead. And also im still lagging ingame , even when the server is being far away from being full.

MISTFORMBZZZ

update again : greyhost stays empty 😂 The event ended and yesterday had gh 0 bars at prime time. People rather playing on br and raven then on gh, which is unplayable

etchedpixels

PC-NA was ok. Not always great but didn't have the "sliding for a minute whilst your horse appears", no skill firing and other nonsense just all the unfixed bugs from busted gap closers and non working IC ladders to infinite debuffs and people cheating using network traffic monitoring exploits

PC-EU was dire. No server upgrade on EU (even though it's charged the same game price) and all the usuals like 3 second delays, skills not firing and being crashed back to the lobby then unable to log that character back in for about ten minutes until they are removed from Cyrodiil and need to queue for ages.

It's really poor they've not upgraded the servers on EU. They've had years to do it and hardware supply is not a problem any more, especially to a big business like Microsoft.

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etchedpixels wrote: »

It's really poor they've not upgraded the servers on EU. They've had years to do it and hardware supply is not a problem any more, especially to a big business like Microsoft.

Nobody can tell me a big company like microsoft is not able to get the hardware for servers within half a year.

Its just a mess tbh

Troodon80

etchedpixels wrote: »

It's really poor they've not upgraded the servers on EU. They've had years to do it and hardware supply is not a problem any more, especially to a big business like Microsoft.

To be honest, PC-EU saw the worst PvP event in history in terms of performance. There were times when you would need to break free three or four times from a single CC. PvP isn't fun, it's made frustrating because of the lag. It's even more disappointing because I went to PC-NA with a friend to check out Cyrodiil and it was so smooth despite the 200~300ms ping I had from EU. They told us only a couple years ago that it was an issue which couldn't be solved by throwing more hardware at it. They did every test they could think of on the Live server over multiple weeks, and now 2-3 years later PC-NA gets a hardware upgrade and gameplay is almost flawless.

They should have just postponed the event until the new hardware was installed for all platforms. It really does drive home the notion that non- PC-NA are second class and not worth the time or effort.

I'm just glad I got the Grand Overlord grind over with two years ago so I didn't need anything from this event.

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Troodon80 wrote: »

etchedpixels wrote: »

It's really poor they've not upgraded the servers on EU. They've had years to do it and hardware supply is not a problem any more, especially to a big business like Microsoft.

To be honest, PC-EU saw the worst PvP event in history in terms of performance. There were times when you would need to break free three or four times from a single CC. PvP isn't fun, it's made frustrating because of the lag. It's even more disappointing because I went to PC-NA with a friend to check out Cyrodiil and it was so smooth despite the 200~300ms ping I had from EU. They told us only a couple years ago that it was an issue which couldn't be solved by throwing more hardware at it. They did every test they could think of on the Live server over multiple weeks, and now 2-3 years later PC-NA gets a hardware upgrade and gameplay is almost flawless.

They should have just postponed the event until the new hardware was installed for all platforms. It really does drive home the notion that non- PC-NA are second class and not worth the time or effort.

I'm just glad I got the Grand Overlord grind over with two years ago so I didn't need anything from this event.

i just want to know what is the state of the new hardware, when will all platforms and all servers recieve it & why the heck does it take so long..

Lebkuchen

still laggy in gray host? i can not be asked to play this mess anymore until it is fixed

malistorr

Yeah it would be really great to have all the servers replaced so the game is actually playable again. [snip]

[edited for bashing]

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Lebkuchen wrote: »

still laggy in gray host? i can not be asked to play this mess anymore until it is fixed

its not laggy because pvp has been ended in gray host.

1 Bar AD , 0 Bar EP , 0 Bar DC.

Yesterday at 9pm EU , 0 Bars of each. The pvp event ended pvp and the three banner war xD


On Blackreach it was 2 Bars of all alliances at prime time, but honestly it was so dead.
Nothing ua , nothing would happen on the map , no fights.

The state of pvp is so sad.

JaRqUe50

Just made a similar post and another post on Reddit, for getting dropped from the server once again for landing a big bomb on PS NA Gray Host.

Half the time I am unable to fire off my abilities, even on completely unsuspected players. I mean how unplayable is the game going to get? Its sad that I was just happy my Ultimate off at all, with this lag, enough to trigger the VD for the bomb. Feel free to check out my video as well as screenshots as proof

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/wluz0k/2nd_mayhem_in_a_row_got_dropped_from_the_server/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://imgur.com/a/vIjw9x1

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JaRqUe50 wrote: »

Just made a similar post and another post on Reddit, for getting dropped from the server once again for landing a big bomb on PS NA Gray Host.

Half the time I am unable to fire off my abilities, even on completely unsuspected players. I mean how unplayable is the game going to get? Its sad that I was just happy my Ultimate off at all, with this lag, enough to trigger the VD for the bomb. Feel free to check out my video as well as screenshots as proof

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/wluz0k/2nd_mayhem_in_a_row_got_dropped_from_the_server/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://imgur.com/a/vIjw9x1

the same happened to me multiple times ,especially on magblade. Try to turn off the damage numbers, it helped ab it for me.

MISTFORMBZZZ

Update on PS EU : Yesterday 7 uk , 1 Bar AD Greyhost, everything else 0.

Blackreach wasnt better.

People dont even show up at pvp anymore , its that sad.

Lebkuchen

JaRqUe50 wrote: »

[...] getting dropped from the server once again for landing a big bomb on PS [...]

Happened to me a lot when i was bombing on PS4. Some people said this will not happen on PS5. Same with the picture freezing when friends come online. PS5 fixes a few issues, but does not help with lag and bugs. You can see all the problems with a higher framerate, which is nice, i guess. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Lebkuchen

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

Update on PS EU : Yesterday 7 uk , 1 Bar AD Greyhost, everything else 0.

Blackreach wasnt better.

People dont even show up at pvp anymore , its that sad.

A bit later a massive red zerg showed up. 2 bars red, 1 bar yellow, 0 blue, if i remember right. Red and blue teamed up to punish yellow for a while. Performance in smaller fights was way better than last week. Still very bad in bigger fights with more than 10-20 players. The fight with the hammer was aweful and made me log out again.

The campaign was maybe 1 third full and the performance felt like there was a 100-200 waitinglist and 9 bars stacking at a single keep, at least in "bigger" fights.

A lot of players refuse to play, until this mess is solved.

I still wonder why just 5 (?) people are reporting this on the forums and all the others are trying to deflect, make excuses and talk about completely different issues in our threads. Reading the zonechat you would think more people would be interested in finding some answers.

MISTFORMBZZZ

Lebkuchen wrote: »

MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

Update on PS EU : Yesterday 7 uk , 1 Bar AD Greyhost, everything else 0.

Blackreach wasnt better.

People dont even show up at pvp anymore , its that sad.

A bit later a massive red zerg showed up. 2 bars red, 1 bar yellow, 0 blue, if i remember right. Red and blue teamed up to punish yellow for a while. Performance in smaller fights was way better than last week. Still very bad in bigger fights with more than 10-20 players. The fight with the hammer was aweful and made me log out again.

The campaign was maybe 1 third full and the performance felt like there was a 100-200 waitinglist and 9 bars stacking at a single keep, at least in "bigger" fights.

A lot of players refuse to play, until this mess is solved.

I still wonder why just 5 (?) people are reporting this on the forums and all the others are trying to deflect, make excuses and talk about completely different issues in our threads. Reading the zonechat you would think more people would be interested in finding some answers.

i wish the PS community would stand up and make some rumor so zos cant ignore us but i also think 80% of the community dont know their forum passwords xD I just started using the forum after playing the game like 4 or 5 years so cant really blame them

MISTFORMBZZZ

still lagging on gh , even with 0 bars of each alliance. There is a skill delay and a delay at barswapping

MISTFORMBZZZ

Update from yesterday, sunday the 14.08.

Usually pvp on PS EU was always kinda high frequented , greyhost mostly 3 bars of each alliance during the prime time.

Now this screenshot is from gh yesterday at 8 pm uk




People from my guild were in there and still told about lag and skill delay. How is that possible ?

PvP is completly dead on PS EU now. For me as only pvp player, not even a point in logging in anymore.

DizzyMac

PC-NA cyro is now unplayable. AD 2 bars, EP & DC = 1 bar each.

Skills fail to fire for 5+ seconds. .. nothing works then its like time fast forwards 10+ seconds.... type a comment and it takes 20+ seconds to show in chat..

it is currently worse than pre hardware update

EDIT - latency ranges between 349 and 999+ constantly

MISTFORMBZZZ

DizzyMac wrote: »

PC-NA cyro is now unplayable. AD 2 bars, EP & DC = 1 bar each.

Skills fail to fire for 5+ seconds. .. nothing works then its like time fast forwards 10+ seconds.... type a comment and it takes 20+ seconds to show in chat..

it is currently worse than pre hardware update

EDIT - latency ranges between 349 and 999+ constantly

wow really ? I had such hopes in this update, well we havent even recieved it anyway but still

MISTFORMBZZZ

Today is a maintenance on consoles. I hope what has been broken gets fixed and players coming back to play on PS EU

Lebkuchen

So? Did they fix it? I can not be asked to start this game again...

MISTFORMBZZZ

Lebkuchen wrote: »

So? Did they fix it? I can not be asked to start this game again...

ofc not

MISTFORMBZZZ

Lebkuchen wrote: »

So? Did they fix it? I can not be asked to start this game again...

they deffo did not. Yesterday was gh laggy as hell , with 2 bar ad and 1 bar dc

MISTFORMBZZZ

Update : GH still dead
BR also kinda dead , yesterday 1 bar ad , 2 bar ep 3 bar dc prime time and rarely pvp going on.

Large battles like on gh not aviable on br

Lebkuchen

GH at 8 pm: 1 bar ad, 1 bar ep, 0 bar blue, still laggy, it is a shame.

Lebkuchen

I saw you farming faregyl today while reds had all scrolls and almost the whole map. But it was so laggy i had to leave again...