Week 3 no jabs/sweeps update, will you play templar if this isn't buffed?

gariondavey

The_Lex

No - I will play another class

I will absolutely play another class. Probably DK.

fizl101

I suspect I will have to move to another main for the prog groups I am in, but for social/less intense games my stamplar will still be there waiting for jabs to be useful again.

gariondavey

Yes - I will still play templar but use a different spammable

Stamplar has been my main since I started the game almost 5 years ago. I won't ever give up on my main, but I'll use a different spammable and also play my alts more, most likely.

Swagata01

No - I will play another class

I feel really sad. I just started playing for 2 months and Templar is the only character I got. I updated it to level 50. Got decent purple gear. I just don't want to start again on another character. All the fighter mages psijic quest, gears, class specific knowledge. I don't have time to build another character. I think they should at least revert either the sweep or burning light. Nerfing both of them seems too much.

The_Lex

No - I will play another class

gariondavey wrote: »

Stamplar has been my main since I started the game almost 5 years ago. I won't ever give up on my main, but I'll use a different spammable and also play my alts more, most likely.

I hear you. My 'plar was the first character I ever created, and it will always have a special place for me. But, yeah, I will likely play it much more sparingly. If I can figure out another competitive play style (rangeplar, maybe?), then I might stick with it. But I'm not too enthusiastic about the new flurry skill and animation. Jabs is too iconic for that.

K9002

I'm the type of person that is attached to a main character. My main is a Breton magPlar. I will just drop out of any and all group content, quit bothering with overland bosses and only log in to do my crafting writs and endeavors. My main is also a vampire, but that's another thing that was nerfed into utter uselessness.

We just got another indirect nerf. The perma-Empower that we get from Solar Barrage doesn't improve light attacks anymore. So we had our spammable destroyed, class skills destroyed over previous patches, and now LA weaving gutted as well. There's nothing left to this class at all.

shadyjane62

No - I will play another class

The category missing was the "Will you play another Game" The answer is yes.

Sandman929

No - I will play another class

Already set up Beamplar 6.0 in anticipation of never getting unboned this update.

Marto

Yes - I will still play templar and use a class spammable that is inferior to other spammables

Jabs/Sweeps is an AoE ability, and Sweeps heals you for a pretty considerable amount.

That alone makes it a lot stronger than most spammable abilities in the game. Arguably too strong. If you had asked me before PTS, I would have told you burning light needed a 50% damage nerf. Instead, it got a ~66% nerf (and a buff in the sense other abilities can proc it now)

Not every fight is single-target. I think it's foolish to judge how good or bad a skill is by looking at single-target damage.

Jabs/Sweeps is not useless. It's not even inferior to other spammables. It's just situational. And in those situations it will perform far better than anything else in the game.

It's fine for an ability to be useful for 75% of content, instead of 100% of content.

K9002

Sandman929 wrote: »

Already set up Beamplar 6.0 in anticipation of never getting unboned this update.

Don't even remind them about the beam or they'll nerf that too. Also, I just randomly remembered a thread in the combat subforum asking at what % HP to start beaming. One answer was that in PvP it's beam from 100%. Guess we're doing that in PvE now too.

karekiz

No - I will play another class

Marto wrote: »

Jabs/Sweeps is an AoE ability, and Sweeps heals you for a pretty considerable amount.

That alone makes it a lot stronger than most spammable abilities in the game. Arguably too strong. If you had asked me before PTS, I would have told you burning light needed a 50% damage nerf. Instead, it got a ~66% nerf (and a buff in the sense other abilities can proc it now)

Not every fight is single-target. I think it's foolish to judge how good or bad a skill is by looking at single-target damage.

Jabs/Sweeps is not useless. It's not even inferior to other spammables. It's just situational. And in those situations it will perform far better than anything else in the game.

It's fine for an ability to be useful for 75% of content, instead of 100% of content.

Class abilities and Class Fantasy should 100% remain the top objective. Otherwise you get a boring game.

Firstmep

No - I will play another class

Marto wrote: »

Jabs/Sweeps is an AoE ability, and Sweeps heals you for a pretty considerable amount.

That alone makes it a lot stronger than most spammable abilities in the game. Arguably too strong. If you had asked me before PTS, I would have told you burning light needed a 50% damage nerf. Instead, it got a ~66% nerf (and a buff in the sense other abilities can proc it now)

Not every fight is single-target. I think it's foolish to judge how good or bad a skill is by looking at single-target damage.

Jabs/Sweeps is not useless. It's not even inferior to other spammables. It's just situational. And in those situations it will perform far better than anything else in the game.

It's fine for an ability to be useful for 75% of content, instead of 100% of content.

Jabs was mainly used as a single target spammable, both for pve and pvp.
The aoe nature of it mainly comes from the fact that it has to be targeted.
The cleave ot provides was not even on par with what for example necros can do

Anyway they turned a unique skill that defined the class into a generic boring nothing burger.

Stx

No - I will play another class

If the new jabs animation goes live, I most likely will not be playing templar again.

alternatelder

It was time to take Templar down a notch or two, they've been strong for a long time, that one button spamming was too much, it was annoying, it was all you needed for some wins. I hope the nerf stays.

pklemming

There needs to be a No, I am going to be playing another game.

All these changes need reverting and they need to rethink what they are doing.

K9002

alternatelder wrote: »

It was time to take Templar down a notch or two, they've been strong for a long time, that one button spamming was too much, it was annoying, it was all you needed for some wins. I hope the nerf stays.

I'm fed up with everything good getting nerfed because of the farce that is PvP. Templars were underperforming in PvE for a long time already. Now jabs got destroyed and instead of getting some compensation in the rest of the class kit, we got several more nerfs because why not. Jabs were used for such a long time because the other skills were inadequate. Now watch NBs becoming the new one button class.

pklemming

alternatelder wrote: »

It was time to take Templar down a notch or two, they've been strong for a long time, that one button spamming was too much, it was annoying, it was all you needed for some wins. I hope the nerf stays.

Really? PVP v PVE again. Really? Templar were not close to top dps in PVE, the fact you don't play them, and keep dying to them should not be a factor in wanting them nerfed.

TechMaybeHic

Yes - I will still play templar and use a class spammable that is inferior to other spammables

You really loaded the answers here.

Still going to use jabs. Going to have to supplement the damage with other abilities. I have tested a few ways I can do this, but will beed to actually use it in a live scenario.

notyuu

Yes - I will still play templar but use a different spammable

Becasue unless they sell class change tokens I aint throwing away a character with every single motif and an overhwleming majorty of all craftables in the game learned
and if they do start selling said tokens, i might re-roll them to be a wardern or something

silentxthreat

No - I will play another class

To be honest if they make jabs go live the way it is on pts I'll probably move on from eso. I like jabs. its fun to cast and if base weapon skills do more damage then jabs with burning light ill probably be taking a long break. It's not cool to to take away from class identity for any class in the game.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

alternatelder

pklemming wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

It was time to take Templar down a notch or two, they've been strong for a long time, that one button spamming was too much, it was annoying, it was all you needed for some wins. I hope the nerf stays.

Really? PVP v PVE again. Really? Templar were not close to top dps in PVE, the fact you don't play them, and keep dying to them should not be a factor in wanting them nerfed.

I do play them though, just very rarely. Because I feel like I die wayyy more often to Templars than any other class is not a factor? 🤔 I'm not the only one who believes this, you see complaints everywhere.

silentxthreat

No - I will play another class

alternatelder wrote: »

It was time to take Templar down a notch or two, they've been strong for a long time, that one button spamming was too much, it was annoying, it was all you needed for some wins. I hope the nerf stays.

some nerfs are needed but to make a class unplayable is never the answer unless you want everyone to play the same fotm class. It will be 95% nightblades in u35

Mr_Stach

No - I will play another class

No..... I don't play Templar much, but Jabs is kind of their big thing. But I will also not play another. ESO will go on the Backburner for a while

Tornaad

They said that most of the class changes were not going to come until the final PTS patch.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There will also be a handful of tweaks to some class abilities in next week’s PTS patch, based on the feedback we’ve received, but the majority of these will come in the final PTS patch. Note that the focus of these adjustments will be on Magicka-based Nightblades, Wardens, and Sorcerers.

TechMaybeHic

Yes - I will still play templar and use a class spammable that is inferior to other spammables

Zuboko wrote: »

They said that most of the class changes were not going to come until the final PTS patch.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There will also be a handful of tweaks to some class abilities in next week’s PTS patch, based on the feedback we’ve received, but the majority of these will come in the final PTS patch. Note that the focus of these adjustments will be on Magicka-based Nightblades, Wardens, and Sorcerers.

Seeing Warden today; I suspect it will just be NBs and Sorcs next week

virtus753

Zuboko wrote: »

They said that most of the class changes were not going to come until the final PTS patch.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

There will also be a handful of tweaks to some class abilities in next week’s PTS patch, based on the feedback we’ve received, but the majority of these will come in the final PTS patch. Note that the focus of these adjustments will be on Magicka-based Nightblades, Wardens, and Sorcerers.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Would you please let us know if there's anything coming up for templars? If the 20%+ nerf to Jabs and the 75%+ nerf to Burning Light are going through? If the unreverted nerf to Ritual of Retribution (losing 33%-52% of its dps) is intended or has just been overlooked for two weeks now? (It's a ground DoT that should have been reverted last week.) If we're going to get anything to make up for the loss of Empower in builds that use LA weaving (i.e. the majority of them)? I'm feeling like an off-brand version of generic. To be honest, the entire class is a pain point right now.

Norbert

No - I will play another class

I play an other classe or take a break. Lets see what crap is coming up next. If i look at the empower change, i saw that the *** hits the fan.

endgamesmug

No - I will play another class

Back to Nb for sure,looking forward to the practice or refamiliarisation 😀

Hoolielulu

No - I will play another class

I'm so tired of having my stampler nerfed and this is the final straw. If I don't unsubscribe completely I'll have to start a new character I'm not familiar with (and honestly not all that interested in). I've had my stampler since One Tamriel and I'm heartbroken. Enough is enough. My role is useless, it's hard enough right now for other people to take me seriously.

JustAGoodPlayer

The_Lex wrote: »

I will absolutely play another class. Probably DK.

NB or sorc better.

They are more simpler and have unique skills.

DK is ... I play it as main believe me - even with out jabs templar is better )))