I am DONE helping noobs; toxicity is why.

JustAGoodPlayer

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

Some time ago 2 friends and me went into Vet Coral Aerie for the first time, so I asked in one of my guilds if there was a DD who would like to join, I mentioned it is our first time and none of us have played it before. We had some problems with the first Boss and the DD who joined us started to call us names, he did deal like 20k dps while my friend did 80k and my other friend being the tank not dying once. We didnt wipe it just took us long time, so at the end once we killed the first boss he left. End of story was we did clear it in 3 people.
It is sad when even guild members get toxic towards other guildies only because they don't get carried as how they would wish to.
This is the reason I don't do vet content with strangers anymore, I won't let my friends and me carry people who deal 20k dps in vet dungeons. If they want to get carried they can pay for it or le0arn how to improve.

Solo / duo dunguand / the same with not full group for trials is normal practice for not eletists groups:

youtube.com/watch?v=ifCSMhJbSoI

Some times some one need to leave - some times some random member start to toxick all the group. So you need to go not full amount - because you can not find exchange for them fast - or may be 1 of your members just is late - so you try to change him a little - as example if tank is on his way to home.

youtube.com/watch?v=rwEO-7MtwO4

With some time pass you become pass it /3/2/1 people - other way it would not be possible to train other group members. You getting exp and offcourse start to pass it more easely.

youtube.com/watch?v=mgVCTkCXxkI - than you start to pass trials with smaller amount and can take more people not based on their DPS and some thing.

But if the one way is just to not go with other people if to much toxic - other is to make thingth bad to them. I see some justice in it.

In more PVP oriented games - it was even possible to one day attack enemy base and avenge by destroy it completely and take all their resources ))

youtube.com/watch?v=qznhlwNJOEA

Or some part of it - if they did not do some thing really bad )) As example - the guild that has the most autority - get wiped by enemy whyle all others houses are all ok ))) (Because of a lot of bad thingth they do ))

In PVE games you can the same kick - do hard mental damage in responce. (truth do a lot of mental damage in responth to such people)

But it is not a good thingth to do because if other player did not do some thing really bad and you are the one who is not right and you will be the one who will feel bad about it ))

If not to do this the same more and more people like you will stop play with randoms - go some where and etc.

But as example killing 30+ minutes a group of players by not letting them in - because there member do some thing bad to member of your clan / ally and etc. count as a normal practice for old games. Thats why players there were more like a family and were more united.

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Why is a player eletist ?

He is not good or bad. If it will be a lot of good players such player can be easely changed.

So they are not interested - becouse they are not good enough - and know some thing - so they hope only on that they will not be changed. They want the game have more bad players. Thats all. Because bad players some day will be play better. So he is competitor to eletists party space. (and they will not be so elit already )
(I think it is the way how there logick works - becouse based on human logick - than more good players than more chances all pass)

In some games some players even guarded some locations and eradicate noob killes and etc - because other way they just will not let people play normally:
youtube.com/watch?v=5_wTWwSzivE

I think the same is here.

You just live your life - you do not make to others any problems = gather you flowers ))) - one time some people makes you problem - ok / second time = ok / trird time - ok / But than you become mad )))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgxQLtJaYf8

WinterHeart626

Suddwrath wrote: »

I can 100% relate to how you’re feeling, OP. And I’m sorry that you went through that experience. Of all the online games I’ve played over 20+ years, ESO has by far the most toxicity among the player base. I’ve never seen so much blatant racism and sexism in a game, and I can’t even count the number of times unwarranted harassment was directed towards me.

I have a story relatively similar to yours from a couple of years ago. I was running vet Banished Cells II via the dungeon finder on my healer. The dungeon began but I quickly noticed one thing- everyone in the group was holding staves and had low health, and when the adds were running around like crazy it became obvious we didn’t even have a tank (not even a “fake tank” with a taunt, just simply no tank at all). Not only that, but the DPS was incredibly low. As in it took over 5 minutes to just kill the first boss. But I figured hey, these are low CP players, this might be one of their first vet dungeons, I’ll stick around and help them out. We finally reach the final boss after nearly 45 minutes and the other players state that they want to do HM. Understandable, I thought, since it was the daily. So we pull and you can probably assume what happened without a tank and low DPS. The other players weren’t/couldn’t kill the orbs which healed the boss, so his health never went below 80%, and by the time we wiped it was because over 6 adds were running around stunning everyone. After we wipe I tell the other players that I will slot a taunt and change gear to manage the adds and that should help us clear. Immediately after saying that I am kicked from the group and the messages begin.
“lol trash”
“go kill yourself”
“dying in a vet dungeon? delete your game”
This was on Xbox at the time, so when I ignored them in game they continued for a solid 30 minutes sending me messages over Xbox Live.

I don’t know what it is about ESO, but there’s just such a level of toxicity, racism, and sexism in game that I have never experienced anywhere else.

Sounds disgusting, I play on X-Box myself, and haven’t encountered such behaviour as yet, probably because I team up with players I talk to over comms from a guild I’m in (pretty chill guild I might add).
I’ve also heard BC2 is also a rather irritating dungeon on vet hard mode at the best of times due to the daedroth spawns and tanks needing to keep those contained (plus heals keeping tank alive) while the dps deal with boss + orbs. Certainly not my idea of a good PUG.

Honestly, in all seriousness, not reacting to trash bags like those, was a good call. Feed them fuel and they’ll only get worse. That’s what reporting is for 🤫 seeing as they did it via Xbox messages, you can get them silenced for a wee bit (or just block em).

ForzaRammer

What did you expect OP, most of these people won't even say thanks after being carried

JustAGoodPlayer

I see new TESO streamer - that kick people for nothing or based on sets / dps / hp / level - even in normal dunguans - super toxic. (Looks like 14 years old)

I think with changes like now on PTS - only people like that will play it soon.

Because if game becomes boring enough that it was givving no fun by playing - exp players may be will go to more dinamick games.

And if say trully I download PSO again ))

Do not know why but for some reason it is some feeling - that I may be do not like next live patch (

Faded

CompM4s wrote: »

Ive noticed that alot of the most toxic players on eso are pretty terrible at the game.

Mid. People who are terrible don't gaf and people who are good - with some exceptions - can relax and let things play out without losing their ****. Competitive mediocrities are vicious.

It's not just ESO.

Alchemical

That's not even noobs if they think they're doing vet Hel Ra with one tank. That's your bronze league heroes right there, people with the most rudimentary grasp of the finer mechanics and because they are better than the people still learning mechanics, they think they are unimpeachable. I actually prefer people who are completely new and don't know what they are doing, because then you can explain it to them right the first time. "Hold block on Starfall, healers can't heal or they'll die" there, it's that simple. But people who THINK they know what they're doing and don't need guidance or are too good to pay attention to mechanics will continue sabotage it for everyone else.

Aside from the point, you can just set your status to 'appear offline' when doing content and players won't be able to whisper you. I do it to deter gear beggars who use addons to check what other people looted, if I feel like giving away gear (and I usually am) I'll post it, but I don't want my chatbox getting blown up mid-pull.

Androrix

Alchemical wrote: »

Aside from the point, you can just set your status to 'appear offline' when doing content and players won't be able to whisper you. I do it to deter gear beggars who use addons to check what other people looted, if I feel like giving away gear (and I usually am) I'll post it, but I don't want my chatbox getting blown up mid-pull.

I have to say that add on is really intrusive. I was super surprised the first time someone asked for an item I had looted. I have absolutely no problem on the other hand with someone telling the group they are looking for a particular set, and will almost always give them what I find. It just seems...odd...to know someone is spying on my inventory intake.

JustAGoodPlayer

Some groups look on others loot and if they not give it - kick by the way.

So for 2000+ CP player it is ok, but for low cp players can be problem.

While mud ball - "is harasment needs to ban" , with real cheaters and bad people - it looks like all is ok here ... .