Vateshran Hallow is way to difficult

FischyJones

Im tryin since this morning to finish the arena and I keep getting violated by that stupid nixiad Magma Queen.
Seriously, whose idea was it to make the normal versions so difficult?

I play video games to relax, not to test my "gamer" skills.

Snamyap

Solo arenas are specifically designed to test your gamer skills. You sure you didn't accidentally start in veteran mode?

If you have trouble with the Nixiad on normal then you run a high risk of throwing your pc/console out the window on the final boss.

Anhedonie

I think you might need to check the difficulty setting. On normal you pretty much oneshot everything.

ellmarie

I still have yet to do this one myself.

Jack-0

Okay, if you don't want to improve your "gamer" skills, why did you enter a solo arena? If you have no desire to improve those skills, and do not wish to do anything challenging, it's not like you need the equipment from Vateshran.

I suggest going to overland, where the monsters couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

If, after some consideration, you do want to improve and kill the queen, can you tell us a bit about what class you're playing, your preference towards stam or mag, melee or ranged abilities etc. and I'm sure lots of people can offer some advice on how to survive and get past her.

And please also tell us what order you did the arena in so far - what colour did you go to first (out of red, green and blue)?

sharquez

There is an optimal order to the arena's based on your max stat. if you are magicka its green blue red. If you are stamina its blue red green . in addition doing all the little secrets and mini bosses helps make it easier.

ectoplasmicninja

I absolutely don't mean to sound condescending (I don't even have a vMA clear) but are you sure you're on normal? I spent a lot of time in there getting the void pitch dye and the only boss that gave me any trouble was the last one. I haven't been there on vet but I imagine it would hand me my hindquarters much like vMA, whereas normal is more along the lines of soloing Fungal Grotto.

Riptide

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

FischyJones

Riptide wrote: »

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

Id love that

Snamyap

FischyJones wrote: »

Riptide wrote: »

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

Id love that

Would that feel as an achievement/accomplishment?

FischyJones

Snamyap wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Riptide wrote: »

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

Id love that

Would that feel as an achievement/accomplishment?

I dont game to accomplish anything. Thats what real life is for.

Agenericname

FischyJones wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Riptide wrote: »

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

Id love that

Would that feel as an achievement/accomplishment?

I dont game to accomplish anything. Thats what real life is for.

Then why do it all?

Kiralyn2000

Agenericname wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Riptide wrote: »

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

Id love that

Would that feel as an achievement/accomplishment?

I dont game to accomplish anything. Thats what real life is for.

Then why do it all?

To relax, have fun, experience things, possibly other...? Not everyone goes through life looking for Things To Conquer.

(that said, buying completions sounds silly/bad. And I'm not a "competitive" person, either. I don't bother turning up the difficulty on games, but I do play through them. Skipping to the end just seems... why?)

Agenericname

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Riptide wrote: »

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

Id love that

Would that feel as an achievement/accomplishment?

I dont game to accomplish anything. Thats what real life is for.

Then why do it all?

To relax, have fun, experience things, possibly other...? Not everyone goes through life looking for Things To Conquer.

(that said, buying completions sounds silly/bad. And I'm not a "competitive" person, either. I don't bother turning up the difficulty on games, but I do play through them. Skipping to the end just seems... why?)

Right, but it doesnt answer my question, which I realize is somewhat ambiguous. Why run a solo arena and complain about the difficulty in the first place? Theyre meant to be challenging and their meant to be competitive. There's a leaderboard afterall. Why not stick to any of the other content that isn't that?

K9002

It's not the Magma Queen herself. She just summons a lot of scamps and scamps often attack in sync. You have to keep your eyes on the edges of the arena and wipe out the scamps when there's more than 3-4 of them. Their health is low.

spartaxoxo

Agenericname wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Snamyap wrote: »

FischyJones wrote: »

Riptide wrote: »

I’m surprised they haven’t let folks buy completions with crowns.

Id love that

Would that feel as an achievement/accomplishment?

I dont game to accomplish anything. Thats what real life is for.

Then why do it all?

To relax, have fun, experience things, possibly other...? Not everyone goes through life looking for Things To Conquer.

(that said, buying completions sounds silly/bad. And I'm not a "competitive" person, either. I don't bother turning up the difficulty on games, but I do play through them. Skipping to the end just seems... why?)

Right, but it doesnt answer my question, which I realize is somewhat ambiguous. Why run a solo arena and complain about the difficulty in the first place? Theyre meant to be challenging and their meant to be competitive. There's a leaderboard afterall. Why not stick to any of the other content that isn't that?

Normal isn't meant to be competitive but is supposed to be a challenge compared to overland. Many want a complete for the story or weapon

Elendir2am

There is one rule for all boss fights through ESO. If you don't have enough DPS to quickly burn boss, you need to start killing adds at moment they appear.

Killing boss, adds appear - killing adds, addse are death - killing boss, appear adds - killing adds.

Some adds has higher priority then others. For example, scamps (K9002 meantioned) do higher damage and has low health = high priority.

NordSwordnBoard

These threads are going to multiply like rabbits if they nerf the middle tier as planned.

Mixalis966

[snip] after i returned to the game i did vateshran after watching in depth guide,2nd run i died once and 3rd run i got the trifecta and i was pretty disappointed because when i played the game in 2016 and content was more challenging back then.Now i see flawless conquerors everywhere and the achievement means nothing in the current meta because of the overwhelming damage we can deal

[Minor edit for bait.]

spartaxoxo

You should follow the mechs instead of burning the boss. Make sure to close the lava pools with the synergy. It will make it easier. Also make sure you use the sigils, they are there to lower the challenge if you need help.

thorwyn

Solution:

Slot a self heal!

LordDragonMara

FischyJones wrote: »

Im tryin since this morning to finish the arena and I keep getting violated by that stupid nixiad Magma Queen.
Seriously, whose idea was it to make the normal versions so difficult?

I play video games to relax, not to test my "gamer" skills.

Getting better is a process, doesn't happen overnight. Challenge is part of the game. Keep going, i'm sure you will eventually finish it.

Riptide

FischyJones wrote: »

I dont game to accomplish anything. Thats what real life is for.

Hehe, I went through the same thing when a few of my buddies and I got on a chess kick. I clearly remember half of them being like, why. And making out like those of us who could play a sharp game were dorky losers.

Those of us who could play just looked at each other and smiled, especially since we are all successful professionally. There isn’t any way to explain how enriching a game of chess can be to someone who believes that recreation is only fun if it is indolent. And nothing wrong with it. Same deal has manifested in folks I’ve taken sailing, expecting tea and crumpets rather than the rigors of racing in regattas, like 1 in 4 stick it out.

But anyway I’d just simply urge you to keep at it, normal mode is easily a fourth as difficult as vet, it is entirely doable by anyone. Good luck

Soarora

FischyJones wrote: »

Im tryin since this morning to finish the arena and I keep getting violated by that stupid nixiad Magma Queen.
Seriously, whose idea was it to make the normal versions so difficult?

I play video games to relax, not to test my "gamer" skills.

I had the same problem to the point I quit the arena for a while. Always do red first. I do red -> green -> blue and it made it so much easier.

Carcamongus

FischyJones wrote: »

Im tryin since this morning to finish the arena and I keep getting violated by that stupid nixiad Magma Queen.
Seriously, whose idea was it to make the normal versions so difficult?

I play video games to relax, not to test my "gamer" skills.

I don't see what the big problem with claiming that place's difficult is. Some find it easier, others harder, so what?

Many people already offered suggestions on how to beat that freaking nixad and I agree it's important not to neglect those annoying adds. If you want to complete that place, you might have to check your sets and which skills are slotted. After all, killing the bosses is way more relaxing than being killed by them.

Another important detail is to try to collect the power-ups that are scattered around the place, as they considerably increase magicka, stamina and health (though you can only buff two of them).

Vulkunne

For sure it is a rough neighborhood. Even more difficult now after the changes from early 2021.

Probably the best resource for getting thru it would still be Alcast as he has a couple builds that may still work.

Aside from that, you need to know the mechanics and don't take no for an answer.

Djennku

OP, I would HIGHLY recommend trying to slow waaay down on the fights to learn them. Trying to nuke it ends up doing more harm than good.

The adds in any encounter, but especially solo arenas, are going to be your number one priority. The boss will die when it dies, and taking 5 more mins to kill it won't hurt you at all.

The best way I've learned VH was to just LA the boss and focus the adds and mechanics when they appeared. You go slow so you can be prepared for those mechanics when they happen at certain health percentages, rather than get overwhelmed by everything at once.

Take it one thing at a time and it'll be much easier for you.

Also, I'd highly recommend checking out Xynode's All About Mechanics guide on Vateshran Hollows if you get stuck on a part of the arena and need help.

Good luck and go smash it!!!

francesinhalover

Theres guides that help make the arena easy.
The hardest part is the minotaur,

The last boss though...oh boy. Main reason ill never touch that arena again.

Kusto

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

These threads are going to multiply like rabbits if they nerf the middle tier as planned.

I got trifecta on pts yesterday on 2nd run. And I'm an average player.

AvalonRanger

FischyJones wrote: »

Im tryin since this morning to finish the arena and I keep getting violated by that stupid nixiad Magma Queen.
Seriously, whose idea was it to make the normal versions so difficult?

I play video games to relax, not to test my "gamer" skills.

All trial is challenge contents, or testing place for some specific building style.
It's not so enjoyable contents like solo story contents, and mostly boring.

You still can collect better gear at the normal dungeon run, or make some craftable gear
at the specific working bench scattered all over the Tamriel. There're not much reason
to play trial contents for the enjoying Elder Scrolls world.

redspecter23

Kusto wrote: »

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

These threads are going to multiply like rabbits if they nerf the middle tier as planned.

I got trifecta on pts yesterday on 2nd run. And I'm an average player.

If you got a trifecta, you're not an "average player". If you got it on your second attempt on the current pts, you are probably top 2% or higher. Take that as a compliment, but also understand that from that level of skill, it can be difficult to understand the struggles of players much less skilled than yourself. Players are at different levels of progression or comfortable play style. You may be at the top end, but not everyone is as skilled as you are. Anyone even finishing Vateshran on vet, not even a trifecta is most definitely not "average"