How would you feel about automatic light attack weaving?

ZeroDPS

Id love automatic light attacks.

YES !!!
we need this, all who voted no you are wrong

if we started to f... up this game, so lets do it to the end!!!!!

remember we will end up mobile ESO one day, with one tap idiotic mechanics

@ZOS_RichLambert

Cloudtrader

Id love automatic light attacks.

LordDragonMara wrote: »

Cloudtrader wrote: »

Having come from an MMO where auto-attacks were a thing, it shocked me that ESO didn't have them. It should be a toggle in Combat Options, and provide 50% of the damage and sustain of manual light attacks (and would obviously not animation-cancel, so you'll be getting MUCH less damage than the people actually doing it manually).

Look, I just want to be lazy. And also not exacerbate the pains in my wrist, elbow, and neck from playing too much.

This is not nagging, but a real question, how does exactly LA Weaving gives you wrist, elbow and neck pain exactly ?
How exactly timing left clicks are giving you this ? I don't get it. If this is giving you such problems, then anything in the game or any game actually going to put strain on you.
This is a legit question.
I think most people just don't get what is LA weaving and they just spam mindlessly left mouse for CPS and then "good" stuffs happen to them.

ANY extra clicking just adds to the pain. I actually have a foot button installed on my wall under my computer to press for Sprint with my big toe just to reduce the load on my hands. I also tend to press too hard in tense combat situations, which I feel later as pain radiating up from my fingers into my neck. I don't button mash, but I do weave, although I've only really learned a good rotation on my main (a stamsorc) and not my alts.

And yes, most of the game does put strain on me. I don't play many hours due to that (except for decorating houses, that doesn't put much strain on me, lol). I rarely run 4-mans, and mostly only do Normals. I run Normal trials once or twice a week with my guilds. And I don't PvP unless it's a guild event. Even if they do add auto-attack LAs, I'm going to be hurting still. But... it might be better?

LOL, whatever, I really don't care if they do or not, I just answered the survey. I think reduced damage and sustain auto-LAs would be a good middle-ground, and it wouldn't affect the people who want to keep manual LAs going for all the extra damage goodness.

TPishek

I don't like the idea.

It would defeat the purpose of having them entirely, basically just adding free proc damage. And it would make combat less engaging with less to do.

Tigertron

Id love automatic light attacks.

Every decent keyboard on the planet has macros built in.

Keydown = lmb
Wait = .4 sec
Keyup = lmb
Wait = .4 sec
Cycle

Anyone can do this why not just make it part of the UI.

SilverBride

I don't like the idea.

I don't want the game making combat choices for me.

francesinhalover

Tigertron wrote: »

Every decent keyboard on the planet has macros built in.

Keydown = lmb
Wait = .4 sec
Keyup = lmb
Wait = .4 sec
Cycle

Anyone can do this why not just make it part of the UI.

You can get Punished for using macros.

...I think

thorwyn

Just implement a /kill command that kills all enemies in the area. Including trial bosses of course. All that clicking is way too tedious.

OneForSorrow

I want light attack weaving removed.

I am of the opinion that they need to get rid of light attack weaving as the meta.

Or, preferably, fix the servers so that light attack weaving actually works... But idk if that will happen at this point.

Lucozade85

I like the idea if automatic Light attacks have a downside for being used.

A toggle you can turn on / off? I think having it with a penalty (30-50% damage reduction?) would work.

etchedpixels

I like the idea if automatic Light attacks have a downside for being used.

francesinhalover wrote: »

You can get Punished for using macros.

...I think

In theory it might be against the ToS but loads of people do it, and the current technology can put a bit of randomness in and do it entirely in the keyboard or a Pi or similar between the PC and keyboard.

Putting an option into the accessibility that gave you reasonable auto-light-attack wouldn't be a bad thing. Good enough to play the game, bad enough that doing it by hand is worthwhile.

Although for U35 solo depending how much PTS changes I imagine taping down the block button will be a better option than bothering to light attck in casual solo play.

francesinhalover

etchedpixels wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

You can get Punished for using macros.

...I think

In theory it might be against the ToS but loads of people do it, and the current technology can put a bit of randomness in and do it entirely in the keyboard or a Pi or similar between the PC and keyboard.

Putting an option into the accessibility that gave you reasonable auto-light-attack wouldn't be a bad thing. Good enough to play the game, bad enough that doing it by hand is worthwhile.

Although for U35 solo depending how much PTS changes I imagine taping down the block button will be a better option than bothering to light attck in casual solo play.

Would be cool if they increased light attack speed

CompM4s

I don't like the idea.

This game would feel like a mobile game if they did that.

EozZoe1989

have not seen the update yet so i would not know..
have to see how it is first before judging it..

redlink1979

I don't like the idea.

Nah.

EozZoe1989

also alot people are asuming or just dont like anything that game does anyways over the years i noticed people trolling moaning and just being dam rude to people..
the thing is this mighthelp the game or we will have to see if people dont like it after the update..
maybe it will help to bring more multiplying back into a online game..people wanna go play solo games there is plenty of them look the new skyrim game and other games are coming out if wanna play solo in eso fine but let the multiplayer people have .. fun too

ZeroDPS

Id love automatic light attacks.

Cloudtrader wrote: »

LordDragonMara wrote: »

Cloudtrader wrote: »

Having come from an MMO where auto-attacks were a thing, it shocked me that ESO didn't have them. It should be a toggle in Combat Options, and provide 50% of the damage and sustain of manual light attacks (and would obviously not animation-cancel, so you'll be getting MUCH less damage than the people actually doing it manually).

Look, I just want to be lazy. And also not exacerbate the pains in my wrist, elbow, and neck from playing too much.

This is not nagging, but a real question, how does exactly LA Weaving gives you wrist, elbow and neck pain exactly ?
How exactly timing left clicks are giving you this ? I don't get it. If this is giving you such problems, then anything in the game or any game actually going to put strain on you.
This is a legit question.
I think most people just don't get what is LA weaving and they just spam mindlessly left mouse for CPS and then "good" stuffs happen to them.

ANY extra clicking just adds to the pain. I actually have a foot button installed on my wall under my computer to press for Sprint with my big toe just to reduce the load on my hands. I also tend to press too hard in tense combat situations, which I feel later as pain radiating up from my fingers into my neck. I don't button mash, but I do weave, although I've only really learned a good rotation on my main (a stamsorc) and not my alts.

And yes, most of the game does put strain on me. I don't play many hours due to that (except for decorating houses, that doesn't put much strain on me, lol). I rarely run 4-mans, and mostly only do Normals. I run Normal trials once or twice a week with my guilds. And I don't PvP unless it's a guild event. Even if they do add auto-attack LAs, I'm going to be hurting still. But... it might be better?

LOL, whatever, I really don't care if they do or not, I just answered the survey. I think reduced damage and sustain auto-LAs would be a good middle-ground, and it wouldn't affect the people who want to keep manual LAs going for all the extra damage goodness.

for you they can implement AI(Artificial Intelligence) so AI can play instead of you. You can eat your pizza in front of your PC.... and watch the stream of mobile game....
holy moly...
@Cloudtrader

brylars

I don't like the idea.

If I wanted auto attack I would be playing a game that did that to be honest. The combat system of ESO is unique. It would be a shame if they went mainstream. Then what would make ESO different than the rest?

GrigorijMalahevich

Id love automatic light attacks.

Love this idea! Such a big yes!

Potentially this could become the biggest QoL improvement!

Lumsdenml

I don't like the idea.

I don't want the game to play for me.

Sindrik8x

I don't like the idea.

Learn to weave. Takes minutes of your time, albeit a long time to master. But, that's where playing your class, understanding animations and cancelling and the maturation process take over. Who doesn't want to learn everything about their character and play style? Who doesn't want to grow as a player? Combat in this game is more unique than any other MMO out there. If you take that away, the identity and fabric of ESO is slowly ripped apart and we start getting compared to all the other flavor of the month MMO's out there.

I get we have handicapped players, but there are builds for those folks to minimize the need for weaving.
I get we have people with arthritis. I'm sorry you are dealing with that, but find the best possible build that works for you, find a flexible guild, or get carries if you need to for more advanced content. Or find a casual guild that is ok with subpar builds/doesn't have requirements.
You have options to become better. I find it hard to believe that the population that has physical limitations playing the game is even above 5%, or 10% at most. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I own that. But, prove me wrong if so.

The larger audience of this game needs to stop being so lazy, stop making excuses, and spend time parsing if they want to do high end content. Sorry, not sorry.

JustAGoodPlayer

I don't like the idea.

I am Heavy Attaker ! I do not even care about your LA and how you do it.

Give me my DPS back !

AgaTheGreat

I don't like the idea.

This game needs a PROPER tutorial to teach people how to use light attacks effectively. If you can't do it using keyboard and mouse - try a gamepad. The movement, combat and light attacking gets so much easier when you do.

JustAGoodPlayer

I don't like the idea.

It sound as agressive marketing promotion of some bad goods no one wants )))

MudcrabAttack

It depends

While holding a bow, weaving light attacks with endless hail, scalding rune, caltrops, lightweight trap, and shadow silk is pretty terrible. It adds around 200ms between skills. If an auto attack fixes that, and is also a toggle , I’d go for it.

But I suspect it wouldn’t fix it since they can’t seem to fix it anyway, and an archer damage dealer with the auto attack switched on would be dealing a lot lower dps than everyone else, casting their ground cast skills 20% slower

francesinhalover

JustAGoodPlayer wrote: »

It sound as agressive marketing promotion of some bad goods no one wants )))

clearly many want it,

Lumsdenml wrote: »

I don't want the game to play for me.

than...don't turn it on...

Lumsdenml

I don't like the idea.

I don't want the game to play for me.

francesinhalover wrote: »

JustAGoodPlayer wrote: »

It sound as agressive marketing promotion of some bad goods no one wants )))

clearly many want it,

Lumsdenml wrote: »

I don't want the game to play for me.

than...don't turn it on...

59% of this poll do not want it.

sharquez

Lumsdenml wrote: »

I don't want the game to play for me.

francesinhalover wrote: »

JustAGoodPlayer wrote: »

It sound as agressive marketing promotion of some bad goods no one wants )))

clearly many want it,

Lumsdenml wrote: »

I don't want the game to play for me.

than...don't turn it on...

59% of this poll do not want it.

So 41% of the people polled have a desire for it which is a significant portion. For accessibility reasons this might be worth considering as an Option.

alanmatillab16_ESO

I don't like the idea.

Hell no, this isn't wow with its "white damage" between facerolling the other 30 abilities. Want tab targetting too?

JustAGoodPlayer

I don't like the idea.

francesinhalover wrote: »

JustAGoodPlayer wrote: »

It sound as agressive marketing promotion of some bad goods no one wants )))

clearly many want it,

Lumsdenml wrote: »

I don't want the game to play for me.

than...don't turn it on...

I talk about tutorial.

I do not really even care whyle HA builds
manual DPS is good to pass any content, achivment, pvp and etc.

The same for other skilled players on their builds.

cptscotty

I feel ESO should actually turn the Light Attack weaving animation canceling bug into an actual feature. Look up Skyforge, Dauntless, and FFXIV for examples of how they tackled this problem. All 3 have different versions of a combo system to tackle the spamming/weaving problem. All are engaging and made purposeful in the game. ESO seems like it is designed to have this type of system in place but like it never went through with it.