Crystal Weapon is being gutted in the new patch notes

WreckfulAbandon

Just want to give everyone a heads up. I hoped that this wouldnt happen but here we are. At this point I would love to go back to the old Crystal Weapon that only procced once.

SkadiMZ

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

Just want to give everyone a heads up. I hoped that this wouldnt happen but here we are. At this point I would love to go back to the old Crystal Weapon that only procced once.

Crystal weapon, bound armaments and light/heavy attack nerfs have just destroyed a problem that needed a touch, not a stick of dynamite.

merpins

It needed a nerf. This skill alone increased Stam Sorc's DPS by a solid 25% up from the patch before it. It's still a 20% increase in damage for the skill up from before the change, which equates to about a 10% increase in damage if you factor in the fact that you need to attack twice.

Bound Armaments is a bigger nerf to stam sorc than this. This was going to happen, 100% no doubt. With the nerf, you now gotta think if you wanna use this skill or frags since both are viable now. But the Bound Armaments nerf really hurts stam sorc, since we have very few tools to play with in the first place.

xylena_lazarow

Sorc's offensive toolkit gutted (again). We knew Crystal Wep would be hit because of PvE, but it got dumpstered hard, and Bound Armaments wasn't even that great to begin with. What does a PvP sorc even have left for damage?

The Resolving Vigor nerf means pets are now your only instant burst heal, so half your gameplay is gonna be streaking away from fights to keep the pet safe or recast it, or to get somewhere you can safely cast Dark Deal.

Thecompton73

RIP my stamsorc. Actually sorc in general. With the huge nerf to mines I don't even wanna try going back to Magsorc. Someone high up the the decision making chain must play a tower *** build and get's mad at anything that makes it harder to troll people.

Amdar_Godkiller

Good. That *** has caused PVP to be unplayable due to one second kill bow sorcs. Literally the only thing more toxic than heavy attack ganking DKs...

WreckfulAbandon

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

Good. That *** has caused PVP to be unplayable due to one second kill bow sorcs. Literally the only thing more toxic than heavy attack ganking DKs...

Its a shame they didnt try to be a bit more creative though since they introduced melee vs range provisions for Savage WW but decided to just gut Crystal Weapon. What about melee Stamsorcs who already have poor healing? Now their healing is getting nerfed (pretty much everyone outside of ballgroups are too) and their damage is taking a huge hit too.

Tyrion87

Tbh crystal weapon should be reversed to its old version. After the nerf that little boost to dmg is not worth the hassle of juggling between the skills. And if all the dots will last 20s or more, I can see no other way of efficient usage of crystal weapon than just slotting another spammable to be cast in between...

taugrim

Stamsorc with Bow + Savage Werewolf + Crystal Weapon + Bound Armaments in Update 34 is faceroll easy, so it's unsurprising it's getting nerfed. It's just getting very steeply nerfed.

Crystal Weapon should revert to it's pre-Update 34 state. So it's simply like any other spammable.

xDeusEJRx

I wish they reverted back to pre-buff crystal weapon.
That one felt really nice and not overtuned but of course the meta had to catch up to sorc and receive an overnerf because of it. Over-nerfed ball of lightning, overnerfed crystal weapon, gutted class healing.

Sorcerer is just going to be a support class in pvp at this point

Holycannoli

Not that it matters in PvP but Atro is gutted too.

For no good reason.

This whole patch is a massive damage nerf for no good reason.

The only thing stam sorc has going for it now is weapon skills, and some of those are nerfed too.

katorga

taugrim wrote: »

Stamsorc with Bow + Savage Werewolf + Crystal Weapon + Bound Armaments in Update 34 is faceroll easy, so it's unsurprising it's getting nerfed. It's just getting very steeply nerfed.

Crystal Weapon should revert to it's pre-Update 34 state. So it's simply like any other spammable.

Lol, steeply?

Crystal weapon is now a spammable that takes two full GCD to land full damage that others get in a single GCD. Sheesh.

Bound armaments got its damage reduced well below other classes "burst" abilities. Why? Because it is a dot? Because they wanted to nerf every element of the combo? Who knows.

Plus skills are tied to using light attacks which are barely worth it now.

And now all the players who complained about weaving STILL have to weave to keep up, and get little to no benefit for it.

Didgerion

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Tbh crystal weapon should be reversed to its old version. After the nerf that little boost to dmg is not worth the hassle of juggling between the skills. And if all the dots will last 20s or more, I can see no other way of efficient usage of crystal weapon than just slotting another spammable to be cast in between...

The only other spammabe that I can think of is Silver Shards.
But why slotting it as another spammable but not THE spammable?

What exactly does Crystal Weapon bring on the table now?

WreckfulAbandon

They need to find a way to preserve Crystal Weapon in melee while nerfing it from range. It shouldnt be too hard in theory but lets face it, this skill is probably toast.

Adernath

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Sorc's offensive toolkit gutted (again). We knew Crystal Wep would be hit because of PvE, but it got dumpstered hard, and Bound Armaments wasn't even that great to begin with. What does a PvP sorc even have left for damage?

The Resolving Vigor nerf means pets are now your only instant burst heal, so half your gameplay is gonna be streaking away from fights to keep the pet safe or recast it, or to get somewhere you can safely cast Dark Deal.

Indeed, I wonder if the dev's ever played sorc PvP to realize that frags is just too bad to be used to build a burst combo...

Amdar_Godkiller

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

Good. That *** has caused PVP to be unplayable due to one second kill bow sorcs. Literally the only thing more toxic than heavy attack ganking DKs...

Its a shame they didnt try to be a bit more creative though since they introduced melee vs range provisions for Savage WW but decided to just gut Crystal Weapon. What about melee Stamsorcs who already have poor healing? Now their healing is getting nerfed (pretty much everyone outside of ballgroups are too) and their damage is taking a huge hit too.

crystal has been a bit OP this patch, but honestly the savage ww is the main thing that needed a nerf (in combination with oakensoul and plague dealer). I don't understand why they didn't just nerf the overperforming sets this patch instead of nerfing them AND nerfing DOT damage and changing the way LA/HA works and nerfing all non NBs.


The game was the most balanced its ever been in PVP last patch ASIDE FROM A FEW SETS THAT WERE CRAZY OP. It makes no sense to implement class nerfs and combat changes before we've even seen what PVP balance looks like after nerfing these handful of OP sets. I don't know what it's going to be like next patch, but due to the amount of changes I'm certain it won't feel balanced.

DaisyRay

Tbh I have never liked the crystal weapon, but that's mostly because I'm a ranged char. Sorc was my first character and I have always favored frags. I guess for once, I'm the lucky one.

Minno

Holycannoli wrote: »

Not that it matters in PvP but Atro is gutted too.

For no good reason.

This whole patch is a massive damage nerf for no good reason.

The only thing stam sorc has going for it now is weapon skills, and some of those are nerfed too.

one good change to all this is your major protection sources just got buffed back to the original 25%-30% levels because everyone's dmg just dropped 15-20% lol.