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So does Wild Guardian scale with your highest stats now too?

BloodyStigmata
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It just dawned on me while I was on one of my magdens that I had Eternal Guardian, and remembered I did that because, in the past, it was a magical damage skill and thus scaled with spell damage/magicka.

But I just checked Wild Guardian at the respec shrine and sure enough, the tooltip said it was dealing more damage in every respect. I don't recall that being the case, so was wondering if I'm just crazy, or does Wild Guardian now scale with your highest stats now too?

I know most skills are supposed to do that now, but looking at the morphs, I mean, it just seems kind of stupid to not pick Wild Guardian now if that's the case, seeing as how the bear can't die in dungeons/trials anyway.
Edited by BloodyStigmata on 19 March 2022 14:40
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  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    Ultimate abilities already scaled on highest offensive stats. Now that system applies to normal player abilities as well. Sometimes morphs may do more damage, or it could be due to any number of passives from a weapon, class or CP allocation that might cause differences in numerical values.
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  • BloodyStigmata
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    Ultimate abilities already scaled on highest offensive stats. Now that system applies to normal player abilities as well. Sometimes morphs may do more damage, or it could be due to any number of passives from a weapon, class or CP allocation that might cause differences in numerical values.

    Interesting.

    Now that begs the question, what redeeming quality is Eternal Guardian supposed to have?
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  • MudcrabAttack
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    Da Bears just don't make any sense any more
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  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    By the time it's rank 4, it'll do more damage, however it's pretty miniscule. If you were increasing specifically Physical Damage in several ways through CP, or relied on sets that increasing that specific damage type, that's when you'd still want it. This is an image captured from my Warden Tank weighted towards Max Magicka; The addon I use is "Harven's Improved Skills Window".

    I also don't have some of the class's damage passives active, lack of skill points on this character.

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    Edited by VaxtinTheWolf on 19 March 2022 15:57
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  • Vaoh
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    Eternal Guardian morph is buffed by the warden passive giving +10% Magic Damage Wild Guardian needs to be a different animal/have a new effect.

    Personally I’d like to see a Frost Damage morph in some way.
  • BloodyStigmata
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Eternal Guardian morph is buffed by the warden passive giving +10% Magic Damage

    Ah, that's probably why it was dealing less--that passive wasn't active at the time.

    I'll compare it on my other 2 wardens.
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    This has all the magic and physical damage CPs maxed and all warden passive skill points invested, at some point after everything is leveled, it just doesn’t make sense anymore to run the physical bear
  • AcadianPaladin
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    My magden prefers the Eternal one because she thinks it looks nicer. What good is damage if you don't look good doing it after all? That the Eternal one does a bit more damage is just a bonus.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    There is not much reason to use wild guardian at all other than if you're using automaton in which case it's still not that great. It's 100% a dead morph that needs to be reworked. eternal is far better in nearly every situation. It should probably do something entirely different to the base and eternal morphs.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on 20 March 2022 03:32
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  • Fizzyapple
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    My magden prefers the Eternal one because she thinks it looks nicer. What good is damage if you don't look good doing it after all? That the Eternal one does a bit more damage is just a bonus.

    Look good fight good.
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