Just an idea: Please remove Dark Convergence Set from Reward of the Worthy.-

Aixy

Please move Dark Convergence Set to Vlastarus, Bruma or Cropsford (Quartermaster Npc).-

Marcus_Aurelius

I have a better idea, remove the set from the game.

Aixy

Also it needs some rework - nerf - fix

Marcus_Aurelius

Better to remove it entirely, let's just pretend we had a bad dream.

EdmondDontes

Remove the set or remove the pull are the two solutions that make the most sense.

A proc pull is game breaking. The proc pull from Dark Convergence is stronger than DK chains and has an ultimates amount of damage and the player doesn't even have to aim it or pay any resources for it.

DrSlaughtr

Those sets were only added to RotW in response to the forum complaints where some people feel RotW are worthless and would be removed from the game.

So then we got 4 weeks of RotW farmers pop locking the camps with no desire at all to play the actual game.

JDredd

It does nothing if you know how to counter it. Just be better organized against it.

ZOS_Volpe

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McTaterskins

JDredd wrote: »

It does nothing if you know how to counter it. Just be better organized against it.

How does one be better organized against something that pulls or does damage through structures? That pulls from outside it's indicated radius? That 20+ people during any random keep battle have on and are completely blanketing anything or throwing it down every time they see someone engage in combat?

I'm confused. Can someone educate me?

Gilvoth

McTaterskins wrote: »

JDredd wrote: »

It does nothing if you know how to counter it. Just be better organized against it.

How does one be better organized against something that pulls or does damage through structures? That pulls from outside it's indicated radius? That 20+ people during any random keep battle have on and are completely blanketing anything or throwing it down every time they see someone engage in combat?

I'm confused. Can someone educate me?

because its the same exact thing that warden skill does.
it Forces you and pulls you.
and then high damage happens immediate on the pull.

the set is actually in need of a buff because it was intended to stop zergs, but the zergs now are able to walk right through it with no pull on them.

i Love the set and it needs buffed to make the pull unavoidable just like the sorcerers and wardens skills do to us, they are unavoidable and unblockable. this dark convergence set needs to be the same, unavoidable and unblockable buff added to it to match sorcerers and wardens skills do.

McTaterskins

Gilvoth wrote: »

McTaterskins wrote: »

JDredd wrote: »

It does nothing if you know how to counter it. Just be better organized against it.

How does one be better organized against something that pulls or does damage through structures? That pulls from outside it's indicated radius? That 20+ people during any random keep battle have on and are completely blanketing anything or throwing it down every time they see someone engage in combat?

I'm confused. Can someone educate me?

because its the same exact thing that warden skill does.
it Forces you and pulls you.
and then high damage happens immediate on the pull.

the set is actually in need of a buff because it was intended to stop zergs, but the zergs now are able to walk right through it with no pull on them.

i Love the set and it needs buffed to make the pull unavoidable just like the sorcerers and wardens skills do to us, they are unavoidable and unblockable. this dark convergence set needs to be the same, unavoidable and unblockable buff added to it to match sorcerers and wardens skills do.

Is this satirical?

Edit: Serious question. Not intending to bait or offend.

geonsocal

@Gilvoth you certainly seem to be swimming against the tide here regarding the use of convergence...

just wanted you to know, you're not alone...i'm enjoying (and getting killed) by the set too...

i primarily play as a solo random potato in grey host...been in cyro since 2015, so, not exactly a noob...seen a lot of different changes over the years, convergence has been one of the more fun sets/mechanics introduced over that time...

there's a lot to get frustrated with in cyro (number one being performance), and it definitely does stink that it's getting harder and harder to find any good fights on playstation EU grey host and NA grey host outside of primetime or the weekends...

i think there are many factors for this beyond the introduction of this one (admittedly way OP) set...

Gilvoth

McTaterskins wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

McTaterskins wrote: »

JDredd wrote: »

It does nothing if you know how to counter it. Just be better organized against it.

How does one be better organized against something that pulls or does damage through structures? That pulls from outside it's indicated radius? That 20+ people during any random keep battle have on and are completely blanketing anything or throwing it down every time they see someone engage in combat?

I'm confused. Can someone educate me?

because its the same exact thing that warden skill does.
it Forces you and pulls you.
and then high damage happens immediate on the pull.

the set is actually in need of a buff because it was intended to stop zergs, but the zergs now are able to walk right through it with no pull on them.

i Love the set and it needs buffed to make the pull unavoidable just like the sorcerers and wardens skills do to us, they are unavoidable and unblockable. this dark convergence set needs to be the same, unavoidable and unblockable buff added to it to match sorcerers and wardens skills do.

Is this satirical?

Edit: Serious question. Not intending to bait or offend.

its not satire, its not a sarcasm, its not funny, infact it is very embarrassing that new people come to eso and find massive groups destroying the pvp and game. and "no" im not "swiming against the tide" several guilds im a member of, including zone chat, as well as my friends all are saying the same things i am here.
we asked for help in stopping the zergs, we got help with this set "dark convergence"
However, they leaders of these groups has found a way around the set and the set is no longer stoping them, they just run right through it and are not being effected by the set now.

the set needs its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.

DrSlaughtr

Gilvoth wrote: »

McTaterskins wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

McTaterskins wrote: »

JDredd wrote: »

It does nothing if you know how to counter it. Just be better organized against it.

How does one be better organized against something that pulls or does damage through structures? That pulls from outside it's indicated radius? That 20+ people during any random keep battle have on and are completely blanketing anything or throwing it down every time they see someone engage in combat?

I'm confused. Can someone educate me?

because its the same exact thing that warden skill does.
it Forces you and pulls you.
and then high damage happens immediate on the pull.

the set is actually in need of a buff because it was intended to stop zergs, but the zergs now are able to walk right through it with no pull on them.

i Love the set and it needs buffed to make the pull unavoidable just like the sorcerers and wardens skills do to us, they are unavoidable and unblockable. this dark convergence set needs to be the same, unavoidable and unblockable buff added to it to match sorcerers and wardens skills do.

Is this satirical?

Edit: Serious question. Not intending to bait or offend.

its not satire, its not a sarcasm, its not funny, infact it is very embarrassing that new people come to eso and find massive groups destroying the pvp and game. and "no" im not "swiming against the tide" several guilds im a member of, including zone chat, as well as my friends all are saying the same things i am here.
we asked for help in stopping the zergs, we got help with this set "dark convergence"
However, they leaders of these groups has found a way around the set and the set is no longer stoping them, they just run right through it and are not being effected by the set now.

the set needs its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.

The better it is, the more it will be used by zergs to destroy everyone in their path. The exact opposite of it's intended purpose. You already see this every day and night in Cyro. Whatever group has the most DC users runs wild.

geonsocal

TheEndBringer wrote: »

The better it is, the more it will be used by zergs to destroy everyone in their path. The exact opposite of it's intended purpose. You already see this every day and night in Cyro. Whatever group has the most DC users runs wild.

well, at least the hammer always helps out the low pop or losing alliances...yes, i kid

LeHarrt91

Gilvoth wrote: »

McTaterskins wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

McTaterskins wrote: »

JDredd wrote: »

It does nothing if you know how to counter it. Just be better organized against it.

How does one be better organized against something that pulls or does damage through structures? That pulls from outside it's indicated radius? That 20+ people during any random keep battle have on and are completely blanketing anything or throwing it down every time they see someone engage in combat?

I'm confused. Can someone educate me?

because its the same exact thing that warden skill does.
it Forces you and pulls you.
and then high damage happens immediate on the pull.

the set is actually in need of a buff because it was intended to stop zergs, but the zergs now are able to walk right through it with no pull on them.

i Love the set and it needs buffed to make the pull unavoidable just like the sorcerers and wardens skills do to us, they are unavoidable and unblockable. this dark convergence set needs to be the same, unavoidable and unblockable buff added to it to match sorcerers and wardens skills do.

Is this satirical?

Edit: Serious question. Not intending to bait or offend.

its not satire, its not a sarcasm, its not funny, infact it is very embarrassing that new people come to eso and find massive groups destroying the pvp and game. and "no" im not "swiming against the tide" several guilds im a member of, including zone chat, as well as my friends all are saying the same things i am here.
we asked for help in stopping the zergs, we got help with this set "dark convergence"
However, they leaders of these groups has found a way around the set and the set is no longer stoping them, they just run right through it and are not being effected by the set now.

the set needs its radius increased and the damage increased to help stop the zergs. thats not a joke, its not satire.
its just plain honest truth and honest feedback.

So you want an unavoidable pull on a easily obtainable set, that scales in damage per person pulled, which doesnt have a player limit. That would literally have no counter play and plague cyrodiil even more than it currently does.
Even the guards would use that.

xylena_lazarow

My theory remains that Dark Convergence drives more players away from ESO PvP than NW does.

High pop faction stacks are still unstoppable, proper ballgroups are still unkillable. This set has failed miserably.

Aixy

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

My theory remains that Dark Convergence drives more players away from ESO PvP than NW does.

High pop faction stacks are still unstoppable, proper ballgroups are still unkillable. This set has failed miserably.

Agree 100% !! hai btw ^^ @xylena_lazarow

lexicondevil99

"Please move Dark Convergence Set to Vlastarus, Bruma or Cropsford (Quartermaster Npc) the deleted sets folder"

Fixed it for you

lexicondevil99

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

My theory remains that Dark Convergence drives more players away from ESO PvP than NW does.

High pop faction stacks are still unstoppable, proper ballgroups are still unkillable. This set has failed miserably.

Unkillable ball groups and zergs are now even more unkillable...THEY ARE UNKILLABLE-ER!!!!11

OtarTheMad

The sets worked for a while but Hrothgar was bugged and when that got fixed it was just a situational set... meaning it's only good against faction stacks and just big groups. Here is the kicker with that though, is the combat "bug" makes it hard to use Dressing Room or other add-ons to switch to this situational setup... so... essentially it's useless.

Dark Convergence is taking a hit in this next update, time will tell but it seems to be getting a nerf despite the crit chance. It will become a situational set which like Hrothgar means no one will use it because no one can switch to it because we are pretty much in perma-combat. I can see ball groups and guilds using this to pull people into ult dumps. I only say time will tell because it's hard to duplicate Grey Host conditions on the PTS but from the patch notes themselves so far this set has taken a hit.

Plaguebreak is fairly unused, might spike a bit in popularity but I doubt it will change much.