We NEED A New PvP Zone 2021

Xzysts · December 2020

Do you remember how much fun IC used to be until it died? We need a new small PvP zone similar to it. I think it would be an amazing addition considering how crippled with lag Cyrodiil is. PvP players are desperate for new content. Who knows maybe the Gates of Oblivion chapter will bring in a new PvP zone located in the daedric realm. Cyro won't be getting fixed and as the main PvP aspect of the game it is growing old fast. Throw us a new open world PvP zone and call it good. BG's is really only fun for a couple of games.

Vevvev · December 2020

So... Make a new small PVP zone that'll survive until all the rewards have been earned and then it'll die to?

Xzysts · December 2020

Vevvev wrote: »

So... Make a new small PVP zone that'll survive until all the rewards have been earned and then it'll die to?

Yea... I'd take that and the possibility of it dying in 1-2 years over having the same broken or boring PvP content. I'm not really sure where you were going with that.

Gilvoth · December 2020

it would be Very welcomed and i hope it happens.
Zenimax, please make us a new pvp zone.

Xzysts · December 2020

Gilvoth wrote: »

it would be Very welcomed and i hope it happens.
Zenimax, please make us a new pvp zone.

Honestly, it is needed. If Cyro performance is not fixable, we need something else on a smaller scale that will let us carry over a Cyrodiil like experience with no performance issues. I am still wondering why Midyear Mayhem event was pop-locked across the board and yet was not laggy at all. In fact, it was the smoothest PvP I had in a long time.

Kwoung · December 2020

Actually it would be kind of cool if the alliance war spilled over into sections of adjacent zones on occasion and they got flagged as PVP for a short while. Like taking all a factions keeps/flags allowed you to move the war into their territory after an hour or two if they did not manage to recapture them.

Xzysts · December 2020

Kwoung wrote: »

Actually it would be kind of cool if the alliance war spilled over into sections of adjacent zones on occasion and they got flagged as PVP for a short while. Like taking all a factions keeps/flags allowed you to move the war into their territory after an hour or two if they did not manage to recapture them.

completely agree. especially in a daedric realm it would make some kind of sense especially considering that the alliances also each had the daedra as an enemy. PvP just needs something.

I mean do they turn the whole game into also having PvP, but you can disable it in towns or maybe in the settings? Like a safe mode so to speak. That idea is kinda eh for me but I would welcome anything fresh honestly.

idk · December 2020

Vevvev wrote: »

So... Make a new small PVP zone that'll survive until all the rewards have been earned and then it'll die to?

Great idea because it will reap huge amounts of revenue.

Zos has seen that players are not willing to pay for PvP. If enough players would pay to PvP then Zos would have forced players to sub or buy a DLC to obtain access to BGs and that was something PvP players were clamoring for early on in the game and has seen it displayed during the first year the game was live.

Kwoung · December 2020

Xzysts wrote: »

Kwoung wrote: »

Actually it would be kind of cool if the alliance war spilled over into sections of adjacent zones on occasion and they got flagged as PVP for a short while. Like taking all a factions keeps/flags allowed you to move the war into their territory after an hour or two if they did not manage to recapture them.

completely agree. especially in a daedric realm it would make some kind of sense especially considering that the alliances also each had the daedra as an enemy. PvP just needs something.

I mean do they turn the whole game into also having PvP, but you can disable it in towns or maybe in the settings? Like a safe mode so to speak. That idea is kinda eh for me but I would welcome anything fresh honestly.

I was thinking more like EP lost their stuff in Cyro, so now Fort Zeren in Stonefalls is under attack and open warfare, or something along those lines.

Xzysts · December 2020

Kwoung wrote: »

Xzysts wrote: »

Kwoung wrote: »

Actually it would be kind of cool if the alliance war spilled over into sections of adjacent zones on occasion and they got flagged as PVP for a short while. Like taking all a factions keeps/flags allowed you to move the war into their territory after an hour or two if they did not manage to recapture them.

completely agree. especially in a daedric realm it would make some kind of sense especially considering that the alliances also each had the daedra as an enemy. PvP just needs something.

I mean do they turn the whole game into also having PvP, but you can disable it in towns or maybe in the settings? Like a safe mode so to speak. That idea is kinda eh for me but I would welcome anything fresh honestly.

I was thinking more like EP lost their stuff in Cyro, so now Fort Zeren in Stonefalls is under attack and open warfare, or something along those lines.

honestly that works too. we just need something already.

Kalik_Gold · December 2020

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7050473/#Comment_7050473

An idea I had...

I propose new a new PvP zone... I think they should create a new full PvP zone themed exclusively since Cyrodiil is going on a new path, with the recent changes. The new zone would be something similar to Imperial City, without the old Molag Bal theme, and many loading screens (districts, and sewers), and less packed in density (except within the City area)

I would like Central Elyswer - Corinthe area (link) to be an area affected by the flu still (similar to Orcrest) and the poor areas of Senchal. This area could be a mercenary area (PvP without alliances) with quests related to Thieves guild (Khajits) and the New Moon cult, and other themes. The landscape is beautiful in Elyswer and IMO would be a fun place to PvP at...

It would wrap up last years theme and not leave a weird gap in the map.

Corinthe city area and maps below:

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ArchMikem · December 2020

You think a new open world zone akin to Cyrodiil won't have the same issues?

Kwoung wrote: »

Actually it would be kind of cool if the alliance war spilled over into sections of adjacent zones on occasion and they got flagged as PVP for a short while. Like taking all a factions keeps/flags allowed you to move the war into their territory after an hour or two if they did not manage to recapture them.

The Alliance War needs to just end already. Cyrodiil needs to be reworked into it's own Chapter with enhanced detailing and a Questline. Make something else for PvP but the War itself needs to be retired, not escalated.

Red_Feather · December 2020

Maybe imperial city can get a face-lift with the next expansion!

A cool thing I saw in Destiny 2 was the Dreaming city has a 3 week curse cycle. It affects some cosmetics in the zone and rotates some other things too. It is even used to hide tons stuff that only active in a part of the cycle. Just some inspiration for doing wild things. I like when ZoS does their own thing though instead of copying something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX42DZRalKA

Sergykid · December 2020

nah ... make IC a better area to play in, instead of either gankfest or physique brawlers

sharquez · December 2020

I'd love it. It's not happening, but boy would I love to be wrong. Something fresh too hopefully, m y mind spins with wonderful dreams of what could be, but if wishes were dollars I'd be rich beyond measure.

VampireLordLover99 · December 2020

ArchMikem wrote: »

You think a new open world zone akin to Cyrodiil won't have the same issues?

Kwoung wrote: »

Actually it would be kind of cool if the alliance war spilled over into sections of adjacent zones on occasion and they got flagged as PVP for a short while. Like taking all a factions keeps/flags allowed you to move the war into their territory after an hour or two if they did not manage to recapture them.

The Alliance War needs to just end already. Cyrodiil needs to be reworked into it's own Chapter with enhanced detailing and a Questline. Make something else for PvP but the War itself needs to be retired, not escalated.

Exactly. This isn't WoW, we don't want to have a faction v faction thing going on for the entire game's life cycle. Actually letting the war end would be cool and would allow the world to feel more alive.

MrBrownstone · December 2020

idk wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

So... Make a new small PVP zone that'll survive until all the rewards have been earned and then it'll die to?

Great idea because it will reap huge amounts of revenue.

Zos has seen that players are not willing to pay for PvP. If enough players would pay to PvP then Zos would have forced players to sub or buy a DLC to obtain access to BGs and that was something PvP players were clamoring for early on in the game and has seen it displayed during the first year the game was live.

PvPers pay. They actually pay a lot. Most of the PvP gear are obtained from paid content. Many DLC dungeons drop popular PvP sets. Even the latest zone DLC is worth buying for a PvPer since the arena drops PvP viable gear.

Yes most paid content is PvE but PvPers buy them in the end.

forztr2 · December 2020

Cyrodiil was designed for a larger population cap, It's just too big for the current numbers.

They should do a smaller zone with objective based PVP, cap the players at 60 v 60 v 60 and design the map and textures and basically everything about it with performance in mind.

Jayroo · December 2020

So the whole population of pvpers as far as im aware complain about cyrodil, but yall also want to add more? what?

Jeremy · December 2020

Xzysts wrote: »

Do you remember how much fun IC used to be until it died? We need a new small PvP zone similar to it. I think it would be an amazing addition considering how crippled with lag Cyrodiil is. PvP players are desperate for new content. Who knows maybe the Gates of Oblivion chapter will bring in a new PvP zone located in the daedric realm. Cyro won't be getting fixed and as the main PvP aspect of the game it is growing old fast. Throw us a new open world PvP zone and call it good. BG's is really only fun for a couple of games.

What makes you think a new PvP zone would be any more popular than Imperial City and Cyrodil?

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not against the idea in principle. But unless they can find a way to make PvP more popular it would probably just die out the same way most of the other PvP content is. So I think they would need to come up with a new approach first.

highkingnm · December 2020

I do remember how fun IC was when it dropped and, if I could go back in time to any part of the game, it would be the busy and chaotic sewers where I used to grind with about 7 other guildees and a roving gang of not-very-good but large DC key farmers.

However, I doubt a new PvP zone would survive long. It automatically puts off a huge chunk of the playerbase who just want PvE without interruption and the dedicated PvP players are dwindling, but also focused on Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds. It would really just split the PvP players out further and make BG queues longer and Cyrodiil emptier. Maybe a new zone to replace Cyrodiil would work, but that means killing off a huge zone that people have a fondness for.

That’s on top of the server issues. For PvP to be viable, they really need to make it work smoothly. They also need to draw in more PvP players from the current PvE playerbase or outside the existing playerbase (or get them to return) to make it worth the costs of developing it.

I miss early PvP in this game, but a new zone for PvP seems like it might just extend the long death of PvP in ESO.

Firstmep · December 2020

I'd be down with pvp dlc zone with its own rewards.
It's not like we don't already need to have pve dlcs of we want to have access to some of the best pvp gear.
And ppl can cry p2w all they want for having to pay for content in an mmo, that's fine.

Chaos2088 · December 2020

I love pvp in this game (when its working) hence why I would be saying no to a new pvp zone. Get the one we have working 1st. Also IC is still dead, no point of adding new stuff if just going to be a graveyard 1+ years down the line. happy to have new stuff if the first two was amazing to play.

CaptainVenom · December 2020

Yes. A new BG arena would be nice indeed.

White wabbit · December 2020

Xzysts wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

it would be Very welcomed and i hope it happens.
Zenimax, please make us a new pvp zone.

Honestly, it is needed. If Cyro performance is not fixable, we need something else on a smaller scale that will let us carry over a Cyrodiil like experience with no performance issues. I am still wondering why Midyear Mayhem event was pop-locked across the board and yet was not laggy at all. In fact, it was the smoothest PvP I had in a long time.

And take a already dwindling population from Cyro and make it even more unplayable

deepseamk20b14_ESO · December 2020

Fix PvP before adding more maps/content.

IF, in our imaginary world, ZoD fixed performance, I'd like to see a new battlegrounds style that had a slightly bigger map than a standard battlegrounds map and each team has 12 players. Teams fight to take a in a keep about the size of a resource tower, maybe slightly bigger. When a team captures the keep it becomes fortified (gate/door is now shut) and siege weapons are now authorized. A timer begins to count down and if the team holds the flag by the end of the countdown, they win. The timer does not reset, so if another team takes the flag, they just have to hold it until the timer runs out.

You can random que or group que. If you que as a group you enter a name, your guild name probably and you are placed on a leader board. See what PvP guild is at the top. Rewards at the top 10 would be resources like gold mats and stuff. 30 day cycles perhaps.

Starshadw · December 2020

Xzysts wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

So... Make a new small PVP zone that'll survive until all the rewards have been earned and then it'll die to?

Yea... I'd take that and the possibility of it dying in 1-2 years over having the same broken or boring PvP content. I'm not really sure where you were going with that.

I'd much rather they fix the broken content we already have. And I mean actual fixes, not changes they fully admit did nothing to help performance and yet which were implemented anyway, changes which are destroying PvP altogether.

Norith_Gilheart_Flail · December 2020

No. I don't want to encourage people to play a mode that can kindly fade away in a corner.

Xzysts · December 2020

Jayroo wrote: »

So the whole population of pvpers as far as im aware complain about cyrodil, but yall also want to add more? what?

Yes, we complain because it’s constantly laggy. Something new that holds a smaller number of players would be nice to curb the lag. We don’t complain about the actual PvP, but they can’t fix Cyro.

Xzysts · December 2020

Zavijah_Arventi wrote: »

No. I don't want to encourage people to play a mode that can kindly fade away in a corner.

Yea that’s pretty much happening to all of PvP because they can’t fix cyro, which is just making people quit the game entirely.

Xzysts · December 2020

Starshadw wrote: »

Xzysts wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

So... Make a new small PVP zone that'll survive until all the rewards have been earned and then it'll die to?

Yea... I'd take that and the possibility of it dying in 1-2 years over having the same broken or boring PvP content. I'm not really sure where you were going with that.

I'd much rather they fix the broken content we already have. And I mean actual fixes, not changes they fully admit did nothing to help performance and yet which were implemented anyway, changes which are destroying PvP altogether.

Unfortunately they can’t fix cyro. They said there is nothing they can do about it. At least that is what I heard.