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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Cyrodiil campaigns should be reduced

master_vanargand
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Cyrodiil campaigns should be reduced.
Which campaigns to keep is controversial, but the number of campaigns should be two.
And please use the server intensively for high-traffic campaigns.
  • Ackwalan
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    With fewer campaigns they would have to be unlocked. We've been down that road and it just leads to a lot of griefing, emp selling and a general toxic environment.
  • master_vanargand
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    With fewer campaigns they would have to be unlocked.

    In that case, Cyrodiil only need to prepare lock and unlock campaigns.
    Or all you have to do is lock all campaigns.
    Either way, two are enough.

    The important thing is to use more servers intensively.
    You can do that without spending money by removing the unpopular campaigns.
  • edges_endgame
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    With fewer campaigns they would have to be unlocked.

    In that case, Cyrodiil only need to prepare lock and unlock campaigns.
    Or all you have to do is lock all campaigns.
    Either way, two are enough.

    The important thing is to use more servers intensively.
    You can do that without spending money by removing the unpopular campaigns.

    Yes. Please keep below 50 and no CP.
    Thank you.
  • idk
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    With fewer campaigns they would have to be unlocked.

    In that case, Cyrodiil only need to prepare lock and unlock campaigns.
    Or all you have to do is lock all campaigns.
    Either way, two are enough.

    The important thing is to use more servers intensively.
    You can do that without spending money by removing the unpopular campaigns.

    And you have people who want to play CP and other than do not want CP. Then we also have those who want a sub-50 campaign. So two campaigns are clearly not enough.

    Regardless, the request is not needed. The total number of campaigns have been pretty much irrelevant since those who want active PvP, and their machines can handle it, have always flocked to the same campaign(s). Yes, we used to fill up more campaigns than we do now but we also had more campaigns in total.

    That being the case who cares if there are some low pop campaigns.
  • master_vanargand
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    With fewer campaigns they would have to be unlocked.

    In that case, Cyrodiil only need to prepare lock and unlock campaigns.
    Or all you have to do is lock all campaigns.
    Either way, two are enough.

    The important thing is to use more servers intensively.
    You can do that without spending money by removing the unpopular campaigns.

    Yes. Please keep below 50 and no CP.
    Thank you.

    At least you don't need a sub-50 campaign.
    A sub-50 campaign is obviously a waste of the server because there are no people.

    idk wrote: »
    Ackwalan wrote: »
    With fewer campaigns they would have to be unlocked.

    In that case, Cyrodiil only need to prepare lock and unlock campaigns.
    Or all you have to do is lock all campaigns.
    Either way, two are enough.

    The important thing is to use more servers intensively.
    You can do that without spending money by removing the unpopular campaigns.

    And you have people who want to play CP and other than do not want CP.

    In your theory, it is enough that there are two campaigns in Cyrodiil.
    1: CP on 30days Lock campaign
    2: CP off 30days Unlock campaign
  • Kwoung
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    I like Blackreach, not because it is unlocked, but because it is a different type of play than Greyhost. All the big guilds and serious PVPers play Greyhost, Blackreach tends to be less serious (but fun) PVP... and the gankers who are there to prey on those folks, which is fine.

    If any change was to be made, I would prefer it be splitting the hard core and the more laid back or newer PVPers (somehow) and they all be alliance locked. As my biggest gripe about BR, is someone fighting by your side one minute and swapping chars to kill you the next, because the other factions zerg came out to play and they just want to be on the winning side. It is also very hard to coordinate in zone on BR, due to the same reason, every random could be an enemy.
  • techyeshic
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    The reasoning is assuming that extra campaigns take up server resources that could be dedicated to the main server but I see issues they need to resolve first.

    1. They need to determine CP or no CP. Balance is out of whack between the 2 and would have to be refocused on which 1 is picked. Probably part of that is deciding what CP should be revamped to look like.

    2. Weekend primetime, most campaigns have a high presence. I'm not sure they can be consolidated while allowing access for everyone to be able to get in, and pick up any perform improvement from more resource.

    3. Is sub 50 really needed? Kind of goes with 1 where no CP really should enable a easier entry and ability to scale lower levels and as us, sub 50 can be loaded with twinks and thats only going to get worse with the gear collection in ability to have top tier sets at any level. And high level people are not there to help lower level players either. I guess I am saying is under 50 offers no real protection for ease of access for new players. So maybe its just a matter of a CP and a no CP is what's needed.

    Just a few considerations I don't know for sure there is a clear answer nor sure it would improve anything
  • Beaverton
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    If they reduce the number of campaigns to two, there would be more population pressure (queues) on weekends.

    If they did that, what about having a third weekend only campaign? Friday to Monday weekend warrior campaign. It would take the high load pressure off of the main campaigns during high pop times and create a more even playing field for those that can't really game much during the week? Probably a different campaign dynamic with such a short time frame.

    Just brainstorming.

    PS. The only campaign we really NEED is a no CP campaign. Everything else is preferences (which are important).
    Chook (fill in the blank) or Chookana (likewise): I learn more by dying so teach me some more!
  • master_vanargand
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    Beaverton wrote: »
    PS. The only campaign we really NEED is a no CP campaign. Everything else is preferences (which are important).

    Like Battlegrounds, making all Cyrodiil and all IC No CP is a good idea.
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