about toxicity and elitism

Edziu

just to show toxicity/elitism or whatsoever...this is not special thing for only high lvl/endgame/meta players

2nd DD was barely 300cp, healer under 200 cp and tank similiar to dd, around 300cp
not even a full minute of me "afking" on start adjusting fast addon just after I noticed I need to do this and after inform on chat...and just on way to rest teama nd welp, all I can say is GG to everyone crying so much on "elitism" or being jerk on high lvl players

sorry, but I was not fast enough to get screen before kick of dungeon as this was not so long time of waiting for kick outside of this

Zatox

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

svartorn

Everyone on the internet is a ***.

More on this on the news at 10.

SpiderCultist

what addon did he mean? there's no addon to measure others' DPS afaik or whatever he needed to adjust, that's just bad manners and bs

let us not become WOWers pls

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Seems less like elitism and more like impatience.

Tigerseye

So, if I remember correctly, you are the guy who says he kicks others, in random groups, if they're not good enough?

Yet, you complain if others kick you for not entering the dungeon pre-prepared?

Interesting.

CipherNine

Zatox wrote: »

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

heres a thought. he may not have realized anything needed adjusted before queue. you know sometimes you notice you need to adjust something once you are in a dungeon.
I guess everyone should kick you from group if you ever need to adjust something. Better not ever have to adjust a hotkey or addon in a dungeon cause its the end of the world.

If you are that short on time then dont play an MMO.

butterrum222

Console > pc

WhitePawPrints

I don't really see this as being toxic or elitists. Just people who'd rather wait for a new queue player to join than your load screen. Best to just move on.

gatekeeper13

Zatox wrote: »

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

Lol, if you get annoyed because someone wasted 1 min of your time, maybe you should stop playing mmo.

Zatox

CipherNine wrote: »

If you are that short on time then dont play an MMO.

I have a better idea. Just kick an unprepared player. maybe his start to respect time of his groupmembers after few kicks.

Tigerseye

CipherNine wrote: »

Zatox wrote: »

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

heres a thought. he may not have realized anything needed adjusted before queue. you know sometimes you notice you need to adjust something once you are in a dungeon.
I guess everyone should kick you from group if you ever need to adjust something. Better not ever have to adjust a hotkey or addon in a dungeon cause its the end of the world.

If you are that short on time then dont play an MMO.

I think people should wait, but then I think people should also be patient (wait!) if someone is new and/or lower level, or CP, or whatever.

Because, if you join a random group, via the finder, you don't get to choose what you get.

Obviously, if doing the content is impossible, you might have to give up and leave, but you shouldn't go around kicking everyone who isn't perfect, yet.

Thokri

1min rarely is exactly 1 minute.

Most people are rude as f and have no concept of time. "brb" and after 30min "oh yeah I made food and took shower".
I have witnessed too many very long afk at entrance after just simply brb, or often say nothing at all.

Edziu

Zatox wrote: »

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

ahh yes, blame as always is going 1st mainly on OP, ok then here we go

yes I have adjusted addon before dung...addons...all of them after got reseted them all
and unfortunatelly you dont see everything everything while setuping them on raw without tests...I have adjusted almost everything but missed small but very annyoing/frustating things before I got ready chaeck to dung..I noticed this uncomfortability just while doing murkmire world boss and just aftyer this I got check to queue to dung for which I was queued for longer time because on DD role instead fake heal

unlucky for me was then it get me instantly into dung after accepting because everyone else have accepted this so fast so I get to dung before adjusting addon and because Ihow long we have to wait many times to get finally ready check to any dung as dd role....I did rather not miss it and accept ASAP and rest of the story you have on my 1st post

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Thokri wrote: »

1min rarely is exactly 1 minute.

Most people are rude as f and have no concept of time. "brb" and after 30min "oh yeah I made food and took shower".
I have witnessed too many very long afk at entrance after just simply brb, or often say nothing at all.

My buddy told me a story about getting a raid together once, and after about 10 “ready in 1 minute” delays they had the whole group ready.

At the last second someone came in and asked for a few more minutes. Exasperated at yet another delay someone asked why and his response was beyond priceless.

“It’s just gonna be a few minutes. I gotta go outside and change a tire.”

The group ended up disbanding.

woe

Zatox wrote: »

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

Giraffon

If you are DPS don't ask for people to wait on you. You might get away with it if you are a tank. Maybe even a healer could get away with it. DPS in a PUG? You are taking your chances.

Schattenfluegel

Mhmm i dont understand the meaning of this thread...

Maybe it wasnt your fault, a friend of them wished to join the group or something could have happened too.

Karmen

Sometimes you're queuing for a dungeon during 40min. And when finally you find one, when you arrive someone is saying "i need to adjust things please wait".
Do you see what I mean ?

Edziu

Zatox wrote: »

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

"and you get why you deserve"...hmm...so taking less than 1 min for adjust addon is such bad impact for rest of the team whiel also informing them about this...this is so big offense to everyone else and need penalty ASAP...not like we wait many times so long for all mates to gather before we start pug trial with also random people...gotcha

for next time whne I find someone afk for more than 30 seconds in my team in pug I gonna try to kick because this is what they deserve for being inactive in this dung without even informing us he need moment before going further!

very thanks for your logic sir, I will get it to use for further

Alpheu5

Zatox wrote: »

CipherNine wrote: »

If you are that short on time then dont play an MMO.

I have a better idea. Just kick an unprepared player. maybe his start to respect time of his groupmembers after few kicks.

There's an addon called Untaunted.

Sometimes you port into your first dungeon after a new patch and it bugs out. Nearly half your screen is filled with dummy opaque health bars and you need to reload the addon to remove them.

If that's a kickable offense for you then you shouldn't be running actual random dungeons, period.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

Sorry I don't really see this as toxic or elitist. Perhaps just impatience. Not really worth posting about imo.

SpacemanSpiff1

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Seems less like elitism and more like impatience.

gotta use those game forum buzz words though

Edziu

Karmen wrote: »

Sometimes you're queuing for a dungeon during 40min. And when finally you find one, when you arrive someone is saying "i need to adjust things please wait".
Do you see what I mean ?

look at #7 comment please, this is mostly thing about adjusting addon/something just when entering to instance and which I also described later

and if it was not enough clear from screen....this adjust didnt even took me an full 1 minute so...idk if I see what you mean here

Edziu

Tigerseye wrote: »

So, if I remember correctly, you are the guy who says he kicks others, in random groups, if they're not good enough?

Yet, you complain if others kick you for not entering the dungeon pre-prepared?

Interesting.

ye you remember good...but maybe not good enough...like kick to people who just are going on hard content not beaing ready yet for this like going on hard dlc dung without gear, cp etc and doing same dps as heaer :v this is much different story than this here as I think we all see

Dusk_Coven

CipherNine wrote: »

Zatox wrote: »

Can you adjust your addon before queue in?
Can you run FG1 without addons?
The answer is "No" to both questions, right? Otherwise, you dont ask to wait.
You get what you deserve, dont waste time of yours group members.

heres a thought. he may not have realized anything needed adjusted before queue. you know sometimes you notice you need to adjust something once you are in a dungeon.
I guess everyone should kick you from group if you ever need to adjust something. Better not ever have to adjust a hotkey or addon in a dungeon cause its the end of the world.

If you are that short on time then dont play an MMO.

Timestamp showed he didn't even need 1 full minute to do the adjustment.
Maybe it was a premade full of asses so they could do a voting bloc.

LuxLunae

Edziu wrote: »

just to show toxicity/elitism or whatsoever...this is not special thing for only high lvl/endgame/meta players

2nd DD was barely 300cp, healer under 200 cp and tank similiar to dd, around 300cp
not even a full minute of me "afking" on start adjusting fast addon just after I noticed I need to do this and after inform on chat...and just on way to rest teama nd welp, all I can say is GG to everyone crying so much on "elitism" or being jerk on high lvl players

sorry, but I was not fast enough to get screen before kick of dungeon as this was not so long time of waiting for kick outside of this

Someone said to me "Uhh hello taunt!!"
I am sitting there carrying the whole damn party with my crappy dps in a normal dungeon and this guy tells me to taunt?
Rofl... right..

I told him that and he says

"you chose tank...better at least put inner flame(or whatever lol)"

and I'm thinking in my head..."ok what's the worse that can happen...u die....learn how to heal urself...this a normal dungeon"

Then I almost died and shouted "healer HEAL!!" .... I don't know what was going on but those mobs were powerful in that normal dungeon.

Edziu

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Sorry I don't really see this as toxic or elitist. Perhaps just impatience. Not really worth posting about imo.

perhaps jsut impatience..but then how much we are patient for real when we wait for others just an minute for something which is not that very important

or how much patience have all people from PUG trials waiting for single player before start/1st encounter in trial and for sure this is mostly much more than 1 min and so often up to 5 mins, god bless patient players like those :pray:

Aznarb

Edziu wrote: »

Karmen wrote: »

Sometimes you're queuing for a dungeon during 40min. And when finally you find one, when you arrive someone is saying "i need to adjust things please wait".
Do you see what I mean ?

look at #7 comment please, this is mostly thing about adjusting addon/something just when entering to instance and which I also described later

and if it was not enough clear from screen....this adjust didnt even took me an full 1 minute so...idk if I see what you mean here

Doesn't change the fact you should have do it before queuing.
It's just respect to not wast time of 3 other people for futility.

Do they need to kick you for that ? Probably not, but they have the right to do it. Nothing to do with them being toxic or elitist (nice clic bait I guess), here, it's only your fault.
But I guess it's always easier to blame other instead of yourself.

Like @Karmen said, DPS have already very long queue time, ofc they don't want to wait even more when they get in.

MEBengalsFan2001

Solution: Devs add a timer to dungeons where you have to wait 10 minutes before you can kick someone.

This is not a good solutions because it can ruin runs. Trust me.

This sounds like people simply didn't want to wait for someone fixing something. I've seen it happen; I've been kicked while trying to sell stuff after maxing out my inventory.

Alpheu5

LuxLunae wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

just to show toxicity/elitism or whatsoever...this is not special thing for only high lvl/endgame/meta players

2nd DD was barely 300cp, healer under 200 cp and tank similiar to dd, around 300cp
not even a full minute of me "afking" on start adjusting fast addon just after I noticed I need to do this and after inform on chat...and just on way to rest teama nd welp, all I can say is GG to everyone crying so much on "elitism" or being jerk on high lvl players

sorry, but I was not fast enough to get screen before kick of dungeon as this was not so long time of waiting for kick outside of this

Someone said to me "Uhh hello taunt!!"
I am sitting there carrying the whole damn party with my crappy dps in a normal dungeon and this guy tells me to taunt?
Rofl... right..

I told him that and he says

"you chose tank...better at least put inner flame(or whatever lol)"

and I'm thinking in my head..."ok what's the worse that can happen...u die....learn how to heal urself...this a normal dungeon"

Then I almost died and shouted "healer HEAL!!" .... I don't know what was going on but those mobs were powerful in that normal dungeon.

It's even worse in dungeons with untauntable things because they'll just see you explaining to them that it's untauntable as an excuse or that you're somehow not doing your job.