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SUPER Excited for Greymoor, BUT Wood Elf decreased detection radius passive, when???
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have no problem with Bosmer getting the stealth bonus back except for the people here advocating that the passives be switched with khajiit.
So you would hand a useless passive to another race and gut that race instead?
Just no.
Advocate for getting stealth back for bosmer but don't gut another race in the process.
I don't think there are people here advocating for that. I think you are talking about the other thread and even there it's only one person, who probably (hopefully) realizes the error of their ways now.
There are several posts from Feb 14 saying they should be flipped.Beta tester November 20130 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have no problem with Bosmer getting the stealth bonus back except for the people here advocating that the passives be switched with khajiit.
So you would hand a useless passive to another race and gut that race instead?
Just no.
Advocate for getting stealth back for bosmer but don't gut another race in the process.
I don't think there are people here advocating for that. I think you are talking about the other thread and even there it's only one person, who probably (hopefully) realizes the error of their ways now.
There are several posts from Feb 14 saying they should be flipped.
@Katahdin There is one made by Vevvev, who doesn't specifically say they should remove Khajiit stealth. All that's being said is detection fits Khajiit better, which of course it does considering their Nightvision. Then there is a comment agreeing with that. And lastly there is a comment of the creator of that new thread who we disagree with because he/she wants to sacrifice stealth for detection, which none of us are okay with.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
anadandy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have no problem with Bosmer getting the stealth bonus back except for the people here advocating that the passives be switched with khajiit.
So you would hand a useless passive to another race and gut that race instead?
Just no.
Advocate for getting stealth back for bosmer but don't gut another race in the process.
I don't think there are people here advocating for that. I think you are talking about the other thread and even there it's only one person, who probably (hopefully) realizes the error of their ways now.
There are several posts from Feb 14 saying they should be flipped.
@Katahdin There is one made by Vevvev, who doesn't specifically say they should remove Khajiit stealth. All that's being said is detection fits Khajiit better, which of course it does considering their Nightvision. Then there is a comment agreeing with that. And lastly there is a comment of the creator of that new thread who we disagree with because he/she wants to sacrifice stealth for detection, which none of us are okay with.
In the original 90 page thread, commenters were all pretty adamant that any changes not be some kind of swap. I think people posited that lorewise improved detection made more sense for "cat people" but the general consensus was that as a game mechanic it sucked for everyone.6 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have no problem with Bosmer getting the stealth bonus back except for the people here advocating that the passives be switched with khajiit.
So you would hand a useless passive to another race and gut that race instead?
Just no.
Advocate for getting stealth back for bosmer but don't gut another race in the process.
I don't think there are people here advocating for that. I think you are talking about the other thread and even there it's only one person, who probably (hopefully) realizes the error of their ways now.
There are several posts from Feb 14 saying they should be flipped.
@Katahdin There is one made by Vevvev, who doesn't specifically say they should remove Khajiit stealth. All that's being said is detection fits Khajiit better, which of course it does considering their Nightvision. Then there is a comment agreeing with that. And lastly there is a comment of the creator of that new thread who we disagree with because he/she wants to sacrifice stealth for detection, which none of us are okay with.
In the original 90 page thread, commenters were all pretty adamant that any changes not be some kind of swap. I think people posited that lorewise improved detection made more sense for "cat people" but the general consensus was that as a game mechanic it sucked for everyone.
Yeah, we said "we don't want more nerfs" and "we don't want anyone to experience the same thing that we did" so all our solutions were suggestions to change Bosmer and Bosmer only unless they were straight up buffs, like in the case of giving Orcs detection and Argonians and Dunmer stealth on top of what they already have.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.6 -
elven.were_wolf✭✭✭✭Soooo, It’s already almost the end of the year long Greymoor Chapter and STILL nothing… -_-
I just want my stealth massive back, man. Zos can keep the crit bonus!
Achievement hunter and secret admirer of Naryu Virian.7 -
JoeCapricorn✭✭✭✭✭
✭I feel your pain, although I am hoping I don't go through it myself... where I post a question years later on an issue that deeply affected me personally.
Lorewise, Bosmer should be better at stealth than Imperials. I hope ZOS does at least return the stealth radius passive to the Bosmer.I simp for vampire lords and Glemyos Wildhorn7 -
volkeswagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭They don't need any stealth passive. They are so tiny noone can see them anyway. My wood elf is fun to play but when I need sneak I use my kitty. He can be two foot away from NPC's and not get noticed. That's how I got all the skyshards from the Craglorn group delves.Edited by volkeswagon on 8 October 2020 22:450 -
Cundu_Ertur✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭volkeswagon wrote: »They don't need any stealth passive. They are so tiny noone can see them anyway. My wood elf is fun to play but when I need sneak I use my kitty. He can be two foot away from NPC's and not get noticed. That's how I got all the skyshards from the Craglorn group delves.
Except that's the point. In the lore, Bosmer are supposed to be the amazing ones at stealth. Khajiit are the masters of Acrobatics and Unarmed Combat, Bosmer are the masters of Sneak and Marksmanship. Being forced to park your woodelf in the stable to use your Khajiit, and ONLY your Khajiit, for stealth is garbage. And the fact that now a giant Orc hides as well as a tiny Woodelf is laughably stupid. Only I ain't laughing.Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.10 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Cundu_Ertur wrote: »volkeswagon wrote: »They don't need any stealth passive. They are so tiny noone can see them anyway. My wood elf is fun to play but when I need sneak I use my kitty. He can be two foot away from NPC's and not get noticed. That's how I got all the skyshards from the Craglorn group delves.
Except that's the point. In the lore, Bosmer are supposed to be the amazing ones at stealth. Khajiit are the masters of Acrobatics and Unarmed Combat, Bosmer are the masters of Sneak and Marksmanship. Being forced to park your woodelf in the stable to use your Khajiit, and ONLY your Khajiit, for stealth is garbage. And the fact that now a giant Orc hides as well as a tiny Woodelf is laughably stupid. Only I ain't laughing.
^ This
My wood elf is shelved, along with my vampires.6 -
BangX✭✭✭They made me race change my wood elf of 3 years when the racial skills change went through. 5 second penetration after roll dodging is a joke and 3m stealth detection lol, don't make me laugh.
I miss the 10% sneak damage and reduced stealth radius, I don't wanna play an ugly orc anymore for stealthing, please buff Bosmer ZOS.
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