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The Dungeon Explorer costume

luxius63
luxius63
Soul Shriven
why it disappeared from the shop before the date announced and why those who bought it can no longer put it on
  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    There was an exploit involving it in Cyrodiil apparently.
  • Jayne_Doe
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    Great...which means on XB it'll be months from now before we get the permanent fix, since we barely get any incremental patches. I don't PvP and none of my characters are S&B. Ah well...I hadn't actually equipped the costume on any of my characters yet, but now that I can't, I want all of them to wear it! :D
    Edited by Jayne_Doe on 18 November 2019 22:32
  • MartiniDaniels
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    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume. [snip]

    [edited for bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 29 October 2023 18:15
  • wavingblue
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    How in the hell do you code an exploit in a skin in the first place? It's cosmetic only... right?
  • CiliPadi
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    There was an exploit involving it in Cyrodiil apparently.

    Wait... a COSTUME that is an exploit in PvP? LOL?

    Edited by CiliPadi on 19 November 2019 00:12
  • Kiralyn2000
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    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume.

    Or, perhaps - disabling the costume (since they can do that nigh-instantly) while they work on fixing the exploit (takes more time).

    But, whatever. That doesn't feed into the "ZOMG ZoS = morons!" bandwagon.


    (and it also isn't remarkably similar to things other games have done when big exploits have popped up.)
    CiliPadi wrote: »
    Wait... a COSTUME that is an exploit in PvP? LOL?

    Apparently, wearing the costume in concert with some other pieces of equipment made you both invisible and un-hittable. Kind of a big deal in pvp. And the kind of odd synergy bug that takes a bit of combing through the code to figure out how the * it happened.
  • OrdoHermetica
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    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume. [snip]

    They are fixing it. The fix will roll out with the next incremental hotfix, and they're disabling it until then.
    wavingblue wrote: »
    How in the hell do you code an exploit in a skin in the first place? It's cosmetic only... right?

    Costumes change how your character appears in the world. I imagine something like, say, exploiting a bug in a costume so that it turns your character invisible to other players in a PvP setting could be a pretty significant issue.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 29 October 2023 18:17
  • Romilly
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    What I want to know is why I have not been refunded crowns for my loss...
  • VaranisArano
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    Romilly wrote: »
    What I want to know is why I have not been refunded crowns for my loss...

    Because you haven't lost it. You temporarily don't have access to it while its in the shop for repairs. As soon as its fixed, it'll be reenabled for your use.
    Edited by VaranisArano on 19 November 2019 00:31
  • wavingblue
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    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume. [snip]

    They are fixing it. The fix will roll out with the next incremental hotfix, and they're disabling it until then.
    wavingblue wrote: »
    How in the hell do you code an exploit in a skin in the first place? It's cosmetic only... right?

    Costumes change how your character appears in the world. I imagine something like, say, exploiting a bug in a costume so that it turns your character invisible to other players in a PvP setting could be a pretty significant issue.

    APPEARS... not functions... APPEARS. How in the hell does an APPEARANCE cause you to not be hit.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 29 October 2023 18:17
  • Asardes
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    [Dives into the bug filled dungeons using the group finder tool]

    deep-sea-diver-mens-costume.jpg
    Edited by Asardes on 19 November 2019 01:04
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume. [snip]

    They are fixing it. The fix will roll out with the next incremental hotfix, and they're disabling it until then.
    wavingblue wrote: »
    How in the hell do you code an exploit in a skin in the first place? It's cosmetic only... right?

    Costumes change how your character appears in the world. I imagine something like, say, exploiting a bug in a costume so that it turns your character invisible to other players in a PvP setting could be a pretty significant issue.

    [snip]

    Might I suggest you look up what a slippery slope logical fallacy means ... before commenting on what is factually correct??

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 29 October 2023 18:16
  • Strike_Maximus
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    I think the real question is who the hell figured out this costume was exploitable in the 1st place??? Like how????
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  • OrdoHermetica
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    wavingblue wrote: »
    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume. [snip]

    They are fixing it. The fix will roll out with the next incremental hotfix, and they're disabling it until then.
    wavingblue wrote: »
    How in the hell do you code an exploit in a skin in the first place? It's cosmetic only... right?

    Costumes change how your character appears in the world. I imagine something like, say, exploiting a bug in a costume so that it turns your character invisible to other players in a PvP setting could be a pretty significant issue.

    APPEARS... not functions... APPEARS. How in the hell does an APPEARANCE cause you to not be hit.

    ...if people can't see you, then they're going have to a harder time targeting you. For what I feel are pretty obvious reasons.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 29 October 2023 18:18
  • wavingblue
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    wavingblue wrote: »
    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume. [snip]

    They are fixing it. The fix will roll out with the next incremental hotfix, and they're disabling it until then.
    wavingblue wrote: »
    How in the hell do you code an exploit in a skin in the first place? It's cosmetic only... right?

    Costumes change how your character appears in the world. I imagine something like, say, exploiting a bug in a costume so that it turns your character invisible to other players in a PvP setting could be a pretty significant issue.

    APPEARS... not functions... APPEARS. How in the hell does an APPEARANCE cause you to not be hit.

    ...if people can't see you, then they're going have to a harder time targeting you. For what I feel are pretty obvious reasons.

    How does that get into production? How can you be seen running throughout Tamriel but as soon as you get into PVP you can't be seen because of an APPEARANCE issue? How is something like this not seen in testing?

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 29 October 2023 18:19
  • OrdoHermetica
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    wavingblue wrote: »
    wavingblue wrote: »
    OMG, ZOS's solution - instead of fixing exploit - disabling the costume. [snip]

    They are fixing it. The fix will roll out with the next incremental hotfix, and they're disabling it until then.
    wavingblue wrote: »
    How in the hell do you code an exploit in a skin in the first place? It's cosmetic only... right?

    Costumes change how your character appears in the world. I imagine something like, say, exploiting a bug in a costume so that it turns your character invisible to other players in a PvP setting could be a pretty significant issue.

    APPEARS... not functions... APPEARS. How in the hell does an APPEARANCE cause you to not be hit.

    ...if people can't see you, then they're going have to a harder time targeting you. For what I feel are pretty obvious reasons.

    How does that get into production? How can you be seen running throughout Tamriel but as soon as you get into PVP you can't be seen because of an APPEARANCE issue? How is something like this not seen in testing?

    If it's an exploit, it's very possible that it doesn't normally happen, and needs to be specifically triggered somehow. That sort of thing makes it through testing in all sorts of games, though yes, ESO's testing process seems to let a lot of things through that they really probably shouldn't.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on 29 October 2023 18:19
  • hakan
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    I think the real question is who the hell figured out this costume was exploitable in the 1st place??? Like how????

    not even a question. probably the guy who bought it just wear it then went for bgs/ cyro whatever with snb build then realized he is invincible and then told the others.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Hello everyone,

    With this thread derailing a bit and updates being posted here, we're going to go ahead and close this thread down. For further updates be sure to keep a watch on the Dev Tracker or this thread here.

    Thank you for understanding.
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