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DragonKnights are officially Extinct!
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IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Why are you guys blaming Gilliam? You don't seriously think the changes to dots are his idea alone? Stop making him a scapegoat
Xbox-EU-AD
Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.2 -
Veinblood1965✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What's sad is i just had started early last year and my first toon was mag pet sorc followed by dk tank. Both changed so much I unsubscribed. I keep revisiting the forums hoping the changes will level out a bit as I'm one of those that just play one or two toons and get aggravated after spending time learning rotations and play styles and getting decent only to have it change overnight. The game, quests and scenery are so well done it's a shame to see the actual character play styles get changed so often. Speaking with my wallet which is why I won't give a dime more until I see a leveling out of this crap. I'm just glad I wasn't around for the rocks.Edited by Veinblood1965 on 26 September 2019 16:471 -
Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Magsorc is actually
Also, magDK should parse highest out of mag because they are melee.
Also also you have to increase 10% fire damage for the other classes for a direct comparison, which light attacks alone will give at least 1.5k more dpsEdited by Jodynn on 26 September 2019 15:34Jodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.3 -
Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
✭August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber0 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mag DK parses highest out of all mag classes on PTS rn
Are you referring to this?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/495270/all-magicka-dps-comparisons-on-21m-iron-attro#latest
Magsorc looks higher, and with possibly more flexibility."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0 -
Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
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Live >
Stamnecro > StamSorc > StamDK > Stamden > Stamplar > stamblade
As far as PTS in such a *** situation it doesn't' currently matter until they fix it for stam or mag because it's just so.... nasty.Jodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.0 -
Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
✭brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »
Live >
Stamnecro > StamSorc > StamDK > Stamden > Stamplar > stamblade
As far as PTS in such a *** situation it doesn't' currently matter until they fix it for stam or mag because it's just so.... nasty.
oh of course i'm asking about PTS lol.... currently on live they're fine.August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber0 -
Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
✭brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »
Live >
Stamnecro > StamSorc > StamDK > Stamden > Stamplar > stamblade
As far as PTS in such a *** situation it doesn't' currently matter until they fix it for stam or mag because it's just so.... nasty.
oh of course i'm asking about PTS lol.... currently on live they're fine.
There will be a huge change come this Monday and if they are smart they will listen to the class reps, if they do not then PTS is unplayable in my eyes because it's too drastic for one and two I'm sick of changing my build over and over and this is just plain boring playstyle on the PTS with overly simplistic, naive "spreadsheet"-esque design.Jodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.2 -
Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
✭brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »
Live >
Stamnecro > StamSorc > StamDK > Stamden > Stamplar > stamblade
As far as PTS in such a *** situation it doesn't' currently matter until they fix it for stam or mag because it's just so.... nasty.
oh of course i'm asking about PTS lol.... currently on live they're fine.
There will be a huge change come this Monday and if they are smart they will listen to the class reps, if they do not then PTS is unplayable in my eyes because it's too drastic for one and two I'm sick of changing my build over and over and this is just plain boring playstyle on the PTS with overly simplistic, naive "spreadsheet"-esque design.
you and me both.August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber1 -
Expert✭✭✭✭There's no love for this class, from the bottom of my heart as a Sorc main, i wish u all farewell.
I don't blame you if you quit 0 -
MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I used wings to reflect that snipe from the ganker hiding in the back while I fought 1 or more players in melee range. I love how ppl get mad they can't spam one skill on you. It's almost like you have to use other skills to win.0 -
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✭SapAndFury wrote: »PvP oriented comments
I am pretty deflated as well. None of our dots will be viable at all next patch, and our main burst outside of an ultimate (molten whip) depends on us first lining up 3 completely useless skills. Lol, maybe you could cast inferno 3 times...
Also, I think the engulfing flames change is garbage. We finally get magicka equivalents to Hulking Draugr and Bone Pirate, and we are forced to build spell damage or else lose 10% of our damage. Not to mention Elemental Succession and Silks of the Sun won’t count satisfy the spell damage requirement because they are not on your stat sheet.
I will say it over and over: all that they needed to do was revert their overbuff of Entropy and Soul Trap rather than gutting all other forms of single target dot damage. Instead they are making reckless decisions that are going to cost them a whole year to balance out.
This sums it up1 -
wild_kmacdb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I know this is about DKs, but can I just mention that 2 of the Necromancer passives have essentially become useless?
(10% more DOT damage and 10% less DOT damage.. which was already crap due to the active skill requirement)
DKs may become extinct but if its any consolation, Necros never really got out of the grave to begin with :P
Edited by wild_kmacdb16_ESO on 28 September 2019 18:471 -
Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
✭wild_kmacdb16_ESO wrote: »I know this is about DKs, but can I just mention that 2 of the Necromancer passives have essentially become useless?
(10% more DOT damage and 10% less DOT damage.. which was already crap due to the active skill requirement)
DKs may become extinct but if its any consolation, Necros never really got out of the grave to begin with :P
Not a Necro thread. go away. besides, u guys had a couple of weeks out of the grave when first release and wrecking havoc in Cyrodiil....
August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber1 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭wild_kmacdb16_ESO wrote: »I know this is about DKs, but can I just mention that 2 of the Necromancer passives have essentially become useless?
(10% more DOT damage and 10% less DOT damage.. which was already crap due to the active skill requirement)
DKs may become extinct but if its any consolation, Necros never really got out of the grave to begin with :P
Dude. Look at elder dragon passive. At least both classes can play resto stick stomp well while others have fun.0 -
Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭SapAndFury wrote: »PvP oriented comments
I am pretty deflated as well. None of our dots will be viable at all next patch, and our main burst outside of an ultimate (molten whip) depends on us first lining up 3 completely useless skills. Lol, maybe you could cast inferno 3 times...
Also, I think the engulfing flames change is garbage. We finally get magicka equivalents to Hulking Draugr and Bone Pirate, and we are forced to build spell damage or else lose 10% of our damage. Not to mention Elemental Succession and Silks of the Sun won’t count satisfy the spell damage requirement because they are not on your stat sheet.
I will say it over and over: all that they needed to do was revert their overbuff of Entropy and Soul Trap rather than gutting all other forms of single target dot damage. Instead they are making reckless decisions that are going to cost them a whole year to balance out.
It's not surprising, they did the same thing with Wards after all. Having one strong single target DoT is good, having 3 strong single target DoT's is really broken. I think the solution for DoT's was the same as for shields Major/Minor DoT's to prevent stacking but still maintaining their use and relevance....
However, why would they do that when they could just nerf everything to the ground?.Edited by Lucky28 on 29 September 2019 11:38Invictus0 -
jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭SapAndFury wrote: »PvP oriented comments
I am pretty deflated as well. None of our dots will be viable at all next patch, and our main burst outside of an ultimate (molten whip) depends on us first lining up 3 completely useless skills. Lol, maybe you could cast inferno 3 times...
Also, I think the engulfing flames change is garbage. We finally get magicka equivalents to Hulking Draugr and Bone Pirate, and we are forced to build spell damage or else lose 10% of our damage. Not to mention Elemental Succession and Silks of the Sun won’t count satisfy the spell damage requirement because they are not on your stat sheet.
I will say it over and over: all that they needed to do was revert their overbuff of Entropy and Soul Trap rather than gutting all other forms of single target dot damage. Instead they are making reckless decisions that are going to cost them a whole year to balance out.
It's not surprising, they did the same thing with Wards after all. Having one strong single target DoT is good, having 3 strong single target DoT's is really broken. I think the solution for DoT's was the same as for shields Major/Minor DoT's to prevent stacking but still maintaining their use and relevance....
However, why would they do that when they could just nerf everything to the ground?.
Shields and DoT's aren't in any way comparable to each other, so you really can't justify putting DoT's on the Major/Minor system. One basically gives a temporary increase to max health from a limited number of (good) sources, the other deals damage over a period of time from a wide number of sources, which may or may not have secondary effects tied to it.
Literally just revert all DoT's to how they were during Elsweyr, and slightly buff Soul Trap and Entropy. They weren't an issue back then unless you had half a dozen or more stacked on you, and even then they alone couldn't kill you (my old stamDK used to stack like 6-8 DoT's on someone, and still required well timed stuns into an ult+execute combo in non-CP).1 -
Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭Both Stamdk and Magdk are great on live right now, if the current changes on PTS stay it will be pretty bad tho, but still not as bad as everyone thinks imo.0
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✭✭maddiniiLuna wrote: »If I had a penny every time somebody cried about dk nerfs...
You’d be rich because there’s been a TON of nerfs. Lol.1 -
Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Trancestor wrote: »Both Stamdk and Magdk are great on live right now, if the current changes on PTS stay it will be pretty bad tho, but still not as bad as everyone thinks imo.
i tried to salvage it in PTS.
it's as bad as everyone thinks.August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber0
