7 day cp changing to 30 day cp no lock

Ackwalan

With the next update, it looks like the 7 day cp is being changed to 30 day cp with no alliance lock. Will there be enough locked vs unlocked people to keep both campaigns active?

NBrookus

I guess we'll find out. Most noobs and casuals will go to whichever is listed first.

BahometZ

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

Serjustin19

Ackwalan wrote: »

With the next update, it looks like the 7 day cp is being changed to 30 day cp with no alliance lock. Will there be enough locked vs unlocked people to keep both campaigns active?

Hi, I play on this campaign (so does rest of my guild) do you have a link of new change. Many thanks

Mr_Walker

BahometZ wrote: »

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

So, little change then.

VaranisArano

Serjustin19 wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

With the next update, it looks like the 7 day cp is being changed to 30 day cp with no alliance lock. Will there be enough locked vs unlocked people to keep both campaigns active?

Hi, I play on this campaign (so does rest of my guild) do you have a link of new change. Many thanks

Its in the PTS patch notes.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/493609/pts-patch-notes-v5-2-0

Serjustin19

VaranisArano wrote: »

Serjustin19 wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

With the next update, it looks like the 7 day cp is being changed to 30 day cp with no alliance lock. Will there be enough locked vs unlocked people to keep both campaigns active?

Hi, I play on this campaign (so does rest of my guild) do you have a link of new change. Many thanks

Its in the PTS patch notes.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/493609/pts-patch-notes-v5-2-0

Thank you I’ll let my guild know to.

Vapirko

Ohh I though they were simply closing the 7 day altogether and just keeping two 30 days CP/noCP. Well I predict that either it will be just some spillover and mostly dead like the current 7 day or there will be just a lot of PvDoor most of the day on both campaigns.

NBrookus

It appears we will have:
30 day no CP non vet
30 day no CP locked?
30 day CP locked
30 day CP no lock

But @ZOS_GinaBruno the stream today was a little unclear. Is there going to be a 30 day no CP at all? The notes suggest yes, the stream suggested no.

josh.lackey_ESO

BahometZ wrote: »

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

Unlocked will be the new "main" and locked will be empty.

Minyassa

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

BahometZ wrote: »

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

Unlocked will be the new "main" and locked will be empty.

But that's impossible! So many THOUSANDS of people LOVE the locks that surely NO ONE will be in the unlocked campaign! Just ask the forums!

amir412

FINALLY, We would able to know which mode most of the community prefers.

Sanct16

Community will go to the campaign that gets listed first.

AhPook_Is_Here

Seems like a good change, people who want to play for a campaign score can still and everyone can farm campaign rewards on all their alts with lots of time to hit tier 3, also this will spread people out more and reduce lag since everyone will be farming for alts, and some will still be playing for campaign competition. win, win, win.

magictucktuck

7 day campaign is already unlocked..

Palidon

BahometZ wrote: »

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

I was under the impression they are keeping the 7 day cp campaign and just adding another 30 day cp unlocked. I might be wrong. In either case great they are adding a 30 day cp unlocked.

dtsharples

30 Day unlocked will attract all the PVEers looking for Transmute Stones.
Perfect fodder for those who want 'Good fights'.

Darkmage1337

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No-CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP-Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New, Proposed by ZOS:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No-CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP-Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No-CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP-Enabled No Alliance Lock campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No-CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make the most amount of players satisfied.

New, Proposed by me:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No-CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP-Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP-Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP-Disabled & No Alliance Lock
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

Both CP-Enabled campaigns would have 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No-CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).

Who wants dreadful No-CP PlayerVsGuards gameplay for 30 straight days? An entire month of the same No-CP leaderboard is pretty miserable. Any No-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days in duration, not 30-days.

Mr_Walker

I'm sure it will still be dead in off peak, but my non-locked character might see some action. Welcome news.

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

BahometZ wrote: »

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

Unlocked will be the new "main" and locked will be empty.

LOL. Everyone knows the new "main" campaign will be whatever is first in the list.

idk

Since this game launched most that went into Cyrodiil flocked to the busy campaigns though we were able to fill multiple campaigns back then. Since we have had varying lengths of campaigns it has always been the busy campaign has always been of the longer duration.

So the that fact that the a locked campaign is full and the only unlocked campaign is empty is meaningless in terms of how many favor locked and unlocked. What we will learn if this change goes live if how many really care about alliance locked campaigns, if it is the majority of us or not. Just the fact Zos is making this change says that it is not an exploit to play more than one faction and they do not see being able to do so an important issue in itself and are merely giving us choice by offerign locked campaigns.

Mr_Walker

idk wrote: »

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What we will learn if this change goes live if how many really care about alliance locked campaigns, if it is the majority of us or not.

I dunno, the recent IC event had queues for the 1st campaign on the list whilst only 1 bar pop on Red Diamond.

turlisley

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP No Alliance Locked campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make most players happy.

Both CP-enabled campaigns would get 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).

Who wants dreadful CP-disabled PlayerVsGuards leaderboard gameplay for 30 straight days? It sounds pretty miserable. Any Non-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days, not 30-days.

This would be the best option, given the current scenario. If only @ZOS_BrianWheeler would lurk and listen.

Bergzorn

turlisley wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP No Alliance Locked campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make most players happy.

Both CP-enabled campaigns would get 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).

Who wants dreadful CP-disabled PlayerVsGuards leaderboard gameplay for 30 straight days? It sounds pretty miserable. Any Non-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days, not 30-days.

This would be the best option, given the current scenario. If only @ZOS_BrianWheeler would lurk and listen.

No thanks. I enjoy 30 day no CP on PC/EU, and so do a lot of other players (it's often pop-locked on all factions at least during the EU evening). Changing it to 7 day wouldn't be the end of the world, but I see no reason for this.

Beardimus

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP No Alliance Locked campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make most players happy.

Both CP-enabled campaigns would get 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).

Who wants dreadful CP-disabled PlayerVsGuards leaderboard gameplay for 30 straight days? It sounds pretty miserable. Any Non-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days, not 30-days.

A locked 7 day noCP would be cool.

Not everyone can commit to a month etc. And scores get scale if one teams away with it. 7 days is fresh weekly.

Delsskia

The better fights will be on the CP/unlocked campaign and the wins won't be lopsided like they are now. The last week of the campaign will be fun again.

Darkmage1337

Beardimus wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP No Alliance Locked campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make most players happy.

Both CP-enabled campaigns would get 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).

Who wants dreadful CP-disabled PlayerVsGuards leaderboard gameplay for 30 straight days? It sounds pretty miserable. Any Non-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days, not 30-days.

A locked 7 day noCP would be cool.

Not everyone can commit to a month etc. And scores get scale if one teams away with it. 7 days is fresh weekly.

Exactly.

Given the nature of no-CP combat/gameplay, it makes sense for the no-CP campaign to be 7-days, or 14 days, not 30-days.
Battlegrounds are no-CP because of the short matches and quick, fast-paced combat/gameplay style of Battlegrounds.
Cyrodiil no-CP campaign(s) should also be short(er) in duration to match that combat/gameplay design style.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno

turlisley

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Current:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

"Alliance War Campaign Updates
Once this updates goes live, we will be opening a new Cyrodiil campaign. Laatvulon is a 30 day, CP-enabled, non-Alliance locked Campaign. Additionally, we will be shutting down the Yolnahkriin campaign. Anyone assigned to this campaign at shutdown will receive a free campaign reassignment."

New:
Bahlokdaan: 30 Day No CP & Alliance Locked
Kaalgrontiid: 30 Day CP Enabled & Alliance Locked
Laatvulon: 30 Day CP Enabled & No Alliance Lock
Yolnahkriin: 7 Day CP Enabled
Mulaamnir: Levels 10-49
Imperial City: No CP
Imperial City: CP Enabled

TBH, IMO, ZOS should replace the 30-day No CP campaign (Bahlokdaan) with the new 30-day CP No Alliance Locked campaign (]Laatvulon) and keep the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin) but turn the 7-day into a No CP campaign. I think that would make more sense and probably make most players happy.

Both CP-enabled campaigns would get 30-day durations (Kaalgrontiid & Laatvulon), one with Alliance Lock (Kaalgrontiid) and one without Alliance Lock (Laatvulon), and the 7-day campaign (Yolnahkriin, or whatever new name) should become the No CP campaign (with or without Alliance Lock, [I am indifferent]).

Who wants dreadful CP-disabled PlayerVsGuards leaderboard gameplay for 30 straight days? It sounds pretty miserable. Any Non-CP campaign(s) should be 7-days, not 30-days.

A locked 7 day noCP would be cool.

Not everyone can commit to a month etc. And scores get scale if one teams away with it. 7 days is fresh weekly.

Exactly.

Given the nature of no-CP combat/gameplay, it makes sense for the no-CP campaign to be 7-days, or 14 days, not 30-days.
Battlegrounds are no-CP because of the short matches and quick, fast-paced combat/gameplay style of Battlegrounds.
Cyrodiil no-CP campaign(s) should also be short(er) in duration to match that combat/gameplay design style.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno

Agreed.

TheMikrobe

Replacing the 7-day campaign with a 30-day one has two effects:

(1) It is harder to grind for emperor.

(2) It reduces the theoretical number of transmute crystals you can earn. Currently you can do 3 or 4 weeks of the 7-day campaign and then switch to the last few days of a 30-day campaign.

Tommy_The_Gun

I kinda fear that having more 30 days campaign will spread population and make 3 campaigns "dead" instead of one.

What I am also concern about is that we may end up with majority of players playing on their alliance locked campaign, paint the map there, and then re-log to alliance un-locked campaign, paint the map there, re-log, paint the map over & over again.

Simply because, there is no reward good enough for being loyal to you faction vs re-loging & AP farming.

Darkmage1337

TheMikrobe wrote: »

Replacing the 7-day campaign with a 30-day one has two effects:

(1) It is harder to grind for emperor.

(2) It reduces the theoretical number of transmute crystals you can earn. Currently you can do 3 or 4 weeks of the 7-day campaign and then switch to the last few days of a 30-day campaign.

The 30-day campaign(s) gives, what? 50 Transmutation crystals?
The 7-day campaign(s) gives 10. 7 days x 4 weeks in 1 month = 28 days. 10 Transmutation crystals x 4 weeks = 40 Transmutation crystals.

Sure, when comparing the 7-day and 30-day campaigns, one receives 10 less stones per 1:1 campaign cycle ratio; but, on the 7-day, one gets 4 more opportunities to get Emperor in addition to the option to swap factions an infinite number of times if one so chooses to do so.

I don't play PvP, or Cyrodiil PvP for that matter, simply to just farm Transmutation crystals. I personally have over a dozen characters with 1-40 inventory slots of green, blue, purple, and gold unopened Transmutation geodes simply because the 200/200 limit for ESO Plus subscribers is a bogus limit in the first place. Lol. And that's just on this account alone.

And, sure, one could play the long-game and do the 7-day campaign for 3 weeks (or even the full 4 weeks/28 days, if the timing is right) and then switch to the 30-day campaign for the last 2 days and get the 30-day reward, too. But that's for extreme Transmutation crystal farming. That shouldn't be the sole purpose of what Cyrodiil is all about... because clearly that's what Cyrodiil has become.

ThePedge

BahometZ wrote: »

I would've liked to keep the 7 day CP.

Unlocked will probably be a hot mess of boosters and people farming transmutes.

So, the same as 7 Day minus Emp farmers