Magblade changes

Chubarov_S

We ask you:
Buff magNB because he has to fight close, but he does not have protective mechanisms for survival, or increase the damage for ranged combat.
Nerf stamNB because it has too high damage.

You did:
Nerf magNB 8% since took Berserk
Buff stamNB at 8%, because in Berserk they will remain in force Camouflage Hunter, which all and so used, but now they have access to Vulnerability

Is everything all right there? Or do you still celebrate the anniversary of the game?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

NyassaV

Basically this. Magblade has long been suffering from an identity crisis and then we get spat in the face by adding a 50% heal BUT ONLY WHEN USED WITHIN 7 METERS

Am I ranged or melee? I used to be able to be both back around dragon bones when path was good and strife was fun. But that is no longer the case.

Chubarov_S

You already many people writes that manaNB dead class in pvp of a, you already never meet serious players on it in tournaments.

Over the past patches has been worsened:
Refreshing Path - removed damage, which caused NB tanks to lose the ability to collect tount trash and heal at the same time.
Swallow Soul - increased cost and removed Minor Vitality, which reduced survival

Now you want to remove Dark Kloak and Merseless Resolve
As a result, PVE Tanks will lose their healing and PVP Magblades will lose their damage.

You know the fun fact: the damage of Crystal Fragments is now completely equal to the damage of Merciless Resolve, after this patch. But crystals can fly in every 2 seconds, and onion accumulates 10 seconds in pvp of a and then from him dodge. Where are the representatives of a class? Let them show us how to fight on ManaNB without the use of proc sets against other classes both in melee and in ranged combat.

Why the main rule of a series of TES: "Be who you want and do what you want" does not work in TESO?

You made DK's wings non-reflective, but nothing has changed - all manaNB damage still consists of projectiles, which means the DK will ignore half the damage and kill them will become impossible.

You give heal from the bow, but it's absolutely useless in PVP, because the average damage is 6K, of which only 1.5 K will heal you every 10 seconds, it's "a drop in the ocean"

Our offer:
1. Make the healing of Strife and Grim Focus fixed, and independent of the damage to the enemy.
2. Impale and Strife - not projectiles
3. Change the Grim Focus sound notification
4. Keep Berserk in Merciless Resolve morph
5. Return Minor Vitality to Swallow Soul
6. Increase the burst to the level of at least half of the sorcs

Then again manaNB will be able to adequately compete in high pvp.

P. S. And show us finally the class reprasentative who knows how it works:
PVE NB TANK
PVE NB HEAL
PVP mNB meele
PVP mNB range

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam

DarkPicture

Magblade doesnt need any buffs and stamblade needed some nerfs so stop crying

Undefwun

Browart wrote: »

Magblade doesnt need any buffs and stamblade needed some nerfs so stop crying

1/10 trolling attempt...

Obviously never pvp'd on a magblade before...

DarkPicture

Undefwun wrote: »

Browart wrote: »

Magblade doesnt need any buffs and stamblade needed some nerfs so stop crying

1/10 trolling attempt...

Obviously never pvp'd on a magblade before...

Well, I do. 90% of my pvp is on magblade and I couldnt only fight vs dk because reflective spam. Magicka class (except mdk) I just burn them.

So maybe u just need to l2p?

Chubarov_S

Browart wrote: »

Undefwun wrote: »

Browart wrote: »

Magblade doesnt need any buffs and stamblade needed some nerfs so stop crying

1/10 trolling attempt...

Obviously never pvp'd on a magblade before...

Well, I do. 90% of my pvp is on magblade and I couldnt only fight vs dk because reflective spam. Magicka class (except mdk) I just burn them.

So maybe u just need to l2p?

And now replace the incap with any other ultimate - and you will be surprised (unless of course you are using cancer mechanics *)

Kuramas9tails

I made this same arguments a couple weeks back.

Nerfing Mageblades when they try to nerf Stamblades.

I am hoping those on the PTS will test these builds and give detailed analysis of the changes to see if this on paper will holdup live or if the changes will affect Mageblades too much. Running solo/small scale Mageblade in PVP and PVE, I am not too excited.

kaithuzar

One problem with magblade is that merciless resolve, or whatever you want to call it, is completely unreliable as damage & now we’ve been provided with a completely unreliable heal too!
#RemovedFromBar

It’s a terrible skill because:
1) There is a high probability you will not have your light attacks register!!!
Do I really need to mention dodges, reflects (just because dk lost them doesn’t mean the game did), absorbs, or just completely missing the person due to targeting.

2) The skill is unsure if you are in combat! You proc it, bar swap, swap back & it unproc’d ?!?! So now you have to hit it twice instead of just using the proc because of the attempted fix for nightblades not to be sitting on assassin’s will procs while roaming through Cyrodiil. Probably one of the most terrible QOL degradations we’ve had.

3) The telegraph.
It is my belief that it’s likely to be the easiest skill in Cyrodiil to defend against & completely useless outside of PVE content.
It’s loud, it’s so slow you can see it from a mile away! The number of kills in Cyrodiil this skill has given me has been decreased by 75-80% since the added slow mechanic.

On the up side I now have an open slot for a different skill, in the meantime, I’ve slotted impale. Which is ok however, you have to get the opponent into execute range first & even with major sorcery + minor vulnerability concealed strike still hits like a wet noodle.
I’m hitting targets with concealed for 5k max!
I’m dueling necros doing at min 6k blasted bones & at max 12k & that’s with me having unbuffed 20k resistance & 2.6k crit resistance.
I have a static 1.6k unbuffed health recovery & necro class + bleeds melts me as if I’m naked; whole new cancer incoming!

Undefwun

Browart wrote: »

Well, I do. 90% of my pvp is on magblade and I couldnt only fight vs dk because reflective spam. Magicka class (except mdk) I just burn them.

So maybe u just need to l2p?

If you can't fight DKs.. then who ... you know what never mind... not here to have primary school name calling contest.

Magblade has become duller, has lost it's flare and punch. You are literally playing around Merciless Resolve.
And @kaithuzar has laid those issues out very well. Point 2 in particular is a PITA....

A lot of the magblades I do see are proc set dependent for burst, since I play mainly BGs (due to ping issues in cyro) even I have sunk to using Zaan's to lower TTK since there is no time to have drawn out 1v1s. I see alot of caluurion's on magblades.

I still enjoy playing it alot and to a point I actually like that it's an underdog class, but to say it doesn't need some love (even if they at least fixed Merciless) is plain false...

hesobad

Chubarov_S wrote: »

We ask you:
Buff magNB because he has to fight close, but he does not have protective mechanisms for survival, or increase the damage for ranged combat.
Nerf stamNB because it has too high damage.

You did:
Nerf magNB 8% since took Berserk
Buff stamNB at 8%, because in Berserk they will remain in force Camouflage Hunter, which all and so used, but now they have access to Vulnerability

Is everything all right there? Or do you still celebrate the anniversary of the game?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

ZOS has had it out for mag blades for a while now. Don't know why, outside of a zerg bomb group in cyrodill they were not really played by many in pvp. The nerfs to Strife and refreshing path some time ago, and the stream of nerfs / indirect nerfs to the class since than has well since killed the class. You very rarely see them in pvp anymore, and if u do its all the same playstyle. melee cloak ganking out of stealth with concealed weapon and caluurions legacy.

#make mag blade great again!

kalunte

since shadows got buffed for stamblades, i would say that the bests stamNB's are getting buffed. or at least not nerfed.

anyway,s devs know what they do. even when they make all stamnb to remove incapacitating strike for DBoS...

Zedrian

It would be nice to get a comparison of DPS parse on the Iron atronach between all the Magicka classes....

In my tests, the Magsorc with the Matriarch does a lot more DPS than the Magblade... Same gear, same mundus, same CP, same race, same food.

Gilvoth

Chubarov_S wrote: »

We ask you ....

no that is false, a very small group of people asked, not "WE" not the community, just a small few on this forum.

Gilvoth

the rest of us dont agree with your small group.

Chubarov_S

Gilvoth wrote: »

the rest of us dont agree with your small group.

Why are these "others" silent, but about manaNB (not stamina) there are so many posts in which not a "small group" is asked to improve manaNB?
Look around, there are a lot of players left with manaNB, and there are very few people who think that everything is alright with him.