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Official Discussion Thread for "Announcing Wolfhunter & Murkmire DLC Game Packs"
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Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭More dungeons?
As I run maybe 2 dungeons/month, and the only new story content has to be paid anyway (Chapters), I think it's time to drop my ESO Plus.
Hugely disapointed.
I never understood why dungeon DLCs are still being released.
We already have enough dungeons as it is... too many...
Dungeons as a concept is flawed, one quick completion and that's it.
The bonus of hard mode isn't even worth doing.
Achievement points ? well, that's just some value in the database, that only you can see, no actual benefit.
As for Murkmire, it can be interesting, but I'm not excited.
The Lizards culture's is not my cup of tea
The only reasons why I keep my ESO plus subscription are: craft bag and the double bank space/housing furnishings.
If I will find that I no longer need the craft bag, I may cancel my sub too.Edited by Universe on 11 June 2018 12:02Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I never understood why dungeon DLCs are still being released.
We already have enough dungeons as it is... too many...
Dungeons as a concept is flawed, one quick completion and that's it.
The bonus of hard mode isn't even worth doing.
Dungeons are viewed by the MMO crowd as "end game" and ESO had a major problem at launch in that department. Whether someone personally finds them that way is... well... personal, but generally speaking, these are what MMO players want.
Me? I want Zones and Stories, and lots of them. I don't want their annual lineup to be one Chapter, one Zone, and two Dungeon DLCs, but that is what we have this year. Zones are expensive. Dungeon DLCs are cheaper. I expect dungeons to be the thing of the future.2 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭lordrichter wrote: »I never understood why dungeon DLCs are still being released.
We already have enough dungeons as it is... too many...
Dungeons as a concept is flawed, one quick completion and that's it.
The bonus of hard mode isn't even worth doing.
Dungeons are viewed by the MMO crowd as "end game" and ESO had a major problem at launch in that department. Whether someone personally finds them that way is... well... personal, but generally speaking, these are what MMO players want.
Me? I want Zones and Stories, and lots of them. I don't want their annual lineup to be one Chapter, one Zone, and two Dungeon DLCs, but that is what we have this year. Zones are expensive. Dungeon DLCs are cheaper. I expect dungeons to be the thing of the future.
Not entirely true.
There are many players who find ESO dungeons boring and if they do any dungeons, it is one time completion.
There are already enough dungeons and the reward isn't worth completing the dungeon in the first place.
The experience or enjoyment playing it ? Well I don't find it enjoyable,
but I'm happy for the players who enjoy it, I'm sure there are many.
The grinds I had for high rank undaunted, monster helm items and group dungeon achievements were not enjoyable.Edited by Universe on 11 June 2018 12:39Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
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joaaocaampos✭✭✭✭✭Three Zone DLCs (including Chapter) per year is too much. They've never released anything like it before. In 2017 Q1, we had Homestead, not a Zone DLC.0 -
Skullstachio✭✭✭✭✭Personally, I hope there’s an option where the hunters(undaunted) become the hunted.(as in, those afflicted with lycanthropy get granted the option to defend the final boss of the dungeon from non-lycans and be awarded unique loot ideal for powering werewolves even further. Just bringing new semi-possible ideas on the board.)Edited by Skullstachio on 11 June 2018 12:58If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...
If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.2 -
Darkmage1337✭✭✭✭✭
✭I personally would have preferred a "free update" for Q3 on the scale of Homestead and One Tamriel, which both included major quality-of-life improvements and were packed with loads of bug fixes and game/class balance adjustments, as opposed to ANOTHER dungeon DLC in the same year. Hurray, more 4-person instanced story-telling. and 2 more OP monster sets (hopefully not as OP as Zans and Earthgore).
At least we are finally getting Murkmire? It only took ZOS 3 years and 6 months from its conception for ZOS to finally give it a release date, from when it was first announced.
Summer is out, Summerset is out, yet the rest of 2018 is looking pretty lackluster. Hopefully 2019 has some good Quarterly updates planned, now that the Vvardenfell-ClockworkCity-Summerset "Triad" story-arc is over, that was first teased by The Prophet in Orsinium.
I rather liked this independent-yet-connected meta-story across multiple DLCs.Edited by Darkmage1337 on 11 June 2018 13:08ESO Platform/Region: PC/NA. ESO ID: @Darkmage1337GM of Absolute Virtue. Co-GM of Absolute Vice. 8-time Former Emperor, out of 13 characters. 3 Templars, 3 Sorcerers, 2 Nightblades, 2 Dragonknights, 1 Warden. 1 Necromancer, and 1 Arcanist. The Ebonheart Pact: The Dark-Mage (Former Emperor), The Undying Nightshade, The Moonlit-Knight, The Killionaire (Former Emperor), Swims-Among-Slaughterfish (Former Emperor), The Undead Mage, and The Dark-Warlock. The Aldmeri Dominion: The Dawn-Bringer (Former Empress), The Ironwood Kid (Former Emperor), and The Storm-Sword. The Daggerfall Covenant: The Storm-Shield (Former Empress), The Savage-Beast, and The Burning-Crusader CP: 1,900.2 -
Glaiceana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As I said in another thread, I am really happy to have something related to werewolves! I just hope that the story will have different options and dialogue depending on whether you are werewolf or not. I love it when I find quests that have subtle differences because the NPCs recognise you as a werewolf. I hope this will happen, and that you can have a chance to be on good terms with Hircine himself, since you spoke with him in the Hunting Grounds when you became a werewolf.
Priests of Hircine
Werewolves who bite for FREE! PC/EUOur total free bites: 7000+Guild Subreddit | Forum Thread | YouTube PlaylistTotal Champion Points: 1000+Main Character: Ithaera - Stam DK, Nord, Female, DD, Werewolf.
Rothelnog - Stam NB, Orc, Male, DD, Werewolf.
J'Xena - Mag DK, Khajiit, Female, DD, Werewolf.
Dances-With-Frost-Dragons - DK, Argonian, Male, Tank, Werewolf.
Raziel The Paradox - Mag TP, Dark Elf, Male, DD, Vampire.
Swims-Through-Starlight - TP, Argonian, Female, Healer, Werewolf.
Glaicean Mag Ward, High Elf, Male, Ice DD, Werewolf.
Hjurne Hircine's Forsaken - Sorc, Redguard, Male, PvP DD, Werewolf.
My Total Free Werewolf Bites: 400+ (Ask me about bites if you need one!)Playing since July 2015!3 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »I never understood why dungeon DLCs are still being released.
We already have enough dungeons as it is... too many...
Dungeons as a concept is flawed, one quick completion and that's it.
The bonus of hard mode isn't even worth doing.
Dungeons are viewed by the MMO crowd as "end game" and ESO had a major problem at launch in that department. Whether someone personally finds them that way is... well... personal, but generally speaking, these are what MMO players want.
Me? I want Zones and Stories, and lots of them. I don't want their annual lineup to be one Chapter, one Zone, and two Dungeon DLCs, but that is what we have this year. Zones are expensive. Dungeon DLCs are cheaper. I expect dungeons to be the thing of the future.
Not entirely true.
There are many players who find ESO dungeons boring and if they do any dungeons, it is one time completion.
There are already enough dungeons and the reward isn't worth completing the dungeon in the first place.
The experience or enjoyment playing it ? Well I don't find it enjoyable,
but I'm happy for the players who enjoy it, I'm sure there are many.
The grinds I had for high rank undaunted, monster helm items and group dungeon achievements were not enjoyable.
You are right, many of us actually enjoy doing the achievements for the DLC dungeons because they are the only 4-man content that offers a challenge. As we have completed all the rest of the dungeon challenges in the game, my friends and I were very excited to hear that the next DLC would be two dungeons.
Dungeon DLCs are my favorite because they offer the most replay value. No time spent clearing all the quests/delves/bosses etc. in the overland DLC zones is more than we spent in Fang Lair to get the worm wizard personality. It is a challenge that offers much play-time with a very cool cosmetic reward at the end that very few players on Xbox are able to get.
Many players in ESO who do not strive to complete all the DLC dungeon achievements may find dungeons boring, but for many of us, it is far more than a 1-time completion.0 -
craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭Born, Bred & Made in Manchester UK, RIP 22 Angels. 22/05/2017
PC-EU
The Place by Tony Walsh Please ReadThis is the place in the North West of England
It’s ace, it’s the best and the songs that we sing
From the stands, from our bands set the whole planet shaking
Our inventions are legends! There’s nowt we can’t make and
So we make brilliant music. We make brilliant bands
We make goals that make souls leap from seats in the stands
And we make things from steel and we make things from cotton
And we make people laugh, take the mick summat rotten
And we make you at home and we make you feel welcome
And we make summat happen, we can’t seem to help it
And if you’re looking for history then yes, we’ve a wealth
But the Manchester way is to make it yourself
And make us a record, a new number one
And make us a brew while you’re up, love. Go on!
And make us feel proud that you’re winning the league
And make us sing louder and make us believe it
that this is the place that has helped shape the world
And that this the place where a Manchester girl
Name of Emmeline Pankhurst from the streets of Moss Side
Led a Suffragette City with sisterhood pride
And this is the place with appliance of science
We’re on it, atomic, we strut with defiance
In the face of a challenge we always stand tall
Mancunians in union delivered it all
Such as housing and libraries, and health, education
And unions and co-ops, the first railway station
So we’re sorry! Bear with us! We invented commuters!
But we hope you forgive us – we invented computers!
And this is the place Henry Royce strolled with Rolls
And we’ve rocked and we’ve rolled with our own Northern Soul
And so this is the place to do business, then dance
Where go-getters and goal setters know they’ve a chance
And this is the place where we first played as kids
And me Mam lived and died here, she loved it she did
And this is the place where our folks came to work
Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt
And they built us a city. They built us these towns
And they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound
Of the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves
They were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves
And they left us a spirit, they left us a vibe
The Mancunian Way to survive and to thrive
And to work and to build, to connect and create and
Greater Manchester’s greatness is keeping it great
And so this is the place now we’ve kids of our own
Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home
And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat
All the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets
Because this is a place that has been through some hard times
Oppressions, recessions, depressions and dark times
But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit
Northern grit, northern wit in Greater Manchester’s lyrics
And there’s hard times again in these streets of our city
But we won’t take defeat and we don’t want your pity
Because this a place where we stand strong together
With a smile on our face, Mancunians Forever
And we’ve got this* as the place where a team with a dream (*Forever Manchester)
Can get funding and something to help with their scheme
Because this is the place that understands your grand plans
We don’t do No Can Do, we just stress Yes We Can!
Forever Manchester’s a charity for people round ‘ere
You can fundraise, donate. You can be a volunteer
You can live local, give local. We can honestly say
We do charity differently, that Mancunian Way
And we fund local kids, and we fund local teams
We support local dreamers to work for their dreams
We support local groups and the great work they do
So can you …help us help… local people like you?
Because this is the place in our hearts, in our homes
Because this is the place that’s a part of our bones
‘Cos Greater Manchester gives us such strength from the fact
That this is the place. We should give something back.
Always remember. Never forget. Forever Manchester.0 -
Edrein✭✭✭I'm really hoping the Dungeons are going to give Werewolves and Wardens some great sets.
Bonus points if I get some sort of Reachman twisted nature magic effects as a warden.
(P.S. Give warden's a wolf skin for the bear, or even a werewolf. We'll gladly take it.)3 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im just hoping Murkmire isnt butchered in size. That region is huge and i love exploring the most.
I was pleasantly surprised that Dragon Bones was a bit easier than HoTR. REALLY hoping Wolf Hunter is the same.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!2 -
Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »craftycarper73 wrote: »
will probably take 1-2 years till finished ^^
It takes BGS three years to make a game. They are releasing Fallout 76 this year and the next game is Starfield next. Elderscrolls VI is not coming until the next six years from now. I do not see how people can be hype for something that has not been started on yet.4 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Darkonflare15 wrote: »LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »craftycarper73 wrote: »
will probably take 1-2 years till finished ^^
It takes BGS three years to make a game. They are releasing Fallout 76 this year and the next game is Starfield next. Elderscrolls VI is not coming until the next six years from now. I do not see how people can be hype for something that has not been started on yet.
Three years is being generous. Thankfully, there is some overlap.0 -
usmguy1234✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can we fix what's broke first... like the entire game?Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
Stormifeth- Altmer Magplar
Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.6 -
NeroBad✭✭✭✭Murkmire could be one of the most interesting unique zone to be released after Clockwork City. Im hyped for it. As for dunegon Dlc after 1,5 year Im still not finished most Veteran Trials, and Veteran Shadow of the Hist so I will pass on that for a while. But Murkmire please be a normal sized zone (Shadowfen, Stonefalls) or even a little bigger, I would play the heck out of it.0 -
Threemoons✭✭✭Dumb question--watched the entire E3 announcement on Twitch last night...are we getting crates/drops? I don't see anything in my inventory...Playing on PC/NA---UserID=Threemoons--usually on nights, weekends0 -
Toorlokviing✭✭✭hate to add to the train but another dlc dungeon is not what i was hoping for. especially in a theme i like...i still havent played though horns of the reach dungeons or the last dungoen pack you guys made...i want story content not hard content. despite that i hope you guys plans to have something nice in that dungeon pack to make up for the fact it will be difficult to do. a upgraded special werewolf appearance that any werewolf player can toggle on like the bear skin for warden bear but for werewolf form. if you do this i really hope its not a grind for achievement thing as i hate grinding a hard dungeon for achievements are are literally impossible with the groups i run with. i would rather buy this skin or have it be part of the ce or something.0 -
JasonSilverSpring✭✭✭✭✭Threemoons wrote: »Dumb question--watched the entire E3 announcement on Twitch last night...are we getting crates/drops? I don't see anything in my inventory...
@Threemoons, please note this post from Jessica:ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi everyone!
Just a heads-up that we are waiting to get some details from the Twitch stream and will be sending out Drops once we have them. Also, the Twitch extension was not required to be eligible for the Drops. As long as you were on PC/Mac (sorry console players
we're working on it), linked your ESO and Twitch accounts, and were watching the BE3 stream while logged into Twitch, you should be eligible. For the other Drops, you just needed to link your Twitch and Bethesda.net accounts and watch the B33 stream while logged into Twitch. Hope that helps alleviate some of the concern!
Hopefully we will get them soon.Edited by JasonSilverSpring on 12 June 2018 08:091 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭Dungeons Rock, don't do anything else, dont have the time for all those stories, need to work just had a hour a day and unwinding with some dungeon slaying is awesome Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only0
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TheNightflame✭✭✭✭✭Will wolfhunter be out before september? I really want to get whatever collectibles you get for no death speed hardmode before university starts up again and I disappear for 8 months
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edit: galchobar, zaan hardmode, velidreth, are all some of my favourite dlc dungeon fights! (zaan is a little bland without hardmode and with high dps though). I hope some more fights can make that list/be like those!Edited by TheNightflame on 12 June 2018 14:490 -
Threemoons✭✭✭JasonSilverSpring wrote: »Threemoons wrote: »Dumb question--watched the entire E3 announcement on Twitch last night...are we getting crates/drops? I don't see anything in my inventory...
@Threemoons, please note this post from Jessica:ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi everyone!
Just a heads-up that we are waiting to get some details from the Twitch stream and will be sending out Drops once we have them. Also, the Twitch extension was not required to be eligible for the Drops. As long as you were on PC/Mac (sorry console players we're working on it), linked your ESO and Twitch accounts, and were watching the BE3 stream while logged into Twitch, you should be eligible. For the other Drops, you just needed to link your Twitch and Bethesda.net accounts and watch the B33 stream while logged into Twitch. Hope that helps alleviate some of the concern!
Hopefully we will get them soon.
Thanks so much! Can't wait to check tonight when I get home!Playing on PC/NA---UserID=Threemoons--usually on nights, weekends0 -
Mix✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have never been a fan of the double dungeon DLCs. They seem so unpopular and it is hard to get groups for them. I have always wondered if anyone who isn't a sub even does them (ie. actually buys the dungeon dlcs...)
My Biggest Problem with Dungeon DLC is that you could take 45 min or over 3 hours to do a veteran run (non-hm) which is a huge variance and sucks when you know you could run it if the group can do it in an hour...but you only have two hours so if it isn't....you end up leaving before the end:(
In Dragon Bones - furnishings and a furniture plan were added but as far as I can tell the drop rate is abysmal for them. Doesn't seem anyone on the PC-NA can make the Blackmarrow table.
I understand drop rates on motifs being low on normal, bit more common vet, 100% vet hm. These motifs are also sold on the crown store.
The furniture items added in Dragon Bones aren't available on the crown furniture tab. There is no reason to make the drop rates so terrible. (would love a fix for it btw!)
PLEASE - make the furniture/furniture plans from Wolfhunter have a decent chance to drop on normal. Large amount of my housing guildmates are scared to do the DLC dungeons even on normal and don't even look at vet!
edit: I do want all the achievements for the DLC dungeons but getting groups is like pulling teeth...I do have a great time when i get a group though!Edited by Mix on 12 June 2018 18:231 -
Vizikul✭✭✭✭And.... do werewolves get some love?
Or are you just torturing us with that name....
well, it's called Werewolf hunter. That doesn't sound to me like werewolves are getting any love.Pugging. Pugging all the way to victory.Imperial Dragonknight --- male, stamina, heavy & medium armor, dual wield, one hand and shield, two handed.
Breton Templar --- female, magicka, light armor, restoration staff.
Redguard Warden --- female, stamina, medium armor, bow.
Breton Sorcerer --- male, magicka, light armor, destruction staff.
Imperial Templar --- male, stamina, medium armor, two handed.
Daggerfall Covenant loyalist2 -
NeroBad✭✭✭✭For some reason Im very hyped. I loved the little Argonian place in the Dark Brotherhood quest line. If it will be a diverse detailed big zone, then it could be my favorite zone yet.
I asked my fiance before E3 what zone she hopes for the next chapter and she told me an argonian one
The long mystery of when it will be released is now solved1
