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List how often Zos said: Combat balance changes are done with the next patch

BohnT
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Help me to create a full list of the times when the Devs said something like:
Balance changes will be done not in this patch but a future patch
We read your feedback but we don't intend to change anything this patch.

Even better with links, quotes or time stamps from ESO Live

Edited by BohnT on 7 May 2018 15:54
  • Kilandros
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    Every patch
    Invictus
    Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
    Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
    Sias - Sorcerer / Prefect
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
  • TrinityBreaker
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    All of them.

    RIP StamDK. You will be trash for another 6months.
    Ebonheart for life.
    Xbox NA
    I am Dog Star.

    Khajiit Stam Sorc - Ji'saad Ranajiradh AR 30
    Khajiit Mag DK - Kesjhad
    Khajiit Magblade - Ji'sava Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamplar - Dro'haniAk'nir - AR 36
    Khajiit Stam Dk - Diego Ri'jhad - AR 49
    Khajiit Magplar - Dro'nara Ak'nir
    Khajiit StamBlade - Ri'artharr Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamden - Dro'hani Warbreaker
    Argonian Stam DK - Tiberius Demetros
    Khajiit Stamplar - Diëgo Ri'jhad
    Fat Khajiit Stam DK - Drö'hani Ak'nir/Dances-With-Alkosh
    Khajiit Magden - Arctic Mayhem


  • Marabornwingrion
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    That list will be huuuge.
  • Mihael
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    "We appreciated your feedback but even the easy changes that everyone agrees on will not be implemented until future patches because we are too busy making sure light attacks are right"
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Does anyone else find it funny that this will be the first patch where casting Dark Cloak actually intentionally breaks stealth?
  • Chufu
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    All of them.

    RIP StamDK. You will be trash for another 6months.

    He is not trash at all, he is still good, but yeah it's not anymore the ABSOLUTE ROOOOOAAAAAAR.
  • Dedricus
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    There's an entire thread about needed stam dk changes. its been running for 2 ptr cycles now and we've got nothing. I've defended Zenimax for far too long. This is outrageous. I'm strongly regretting buying Summerset and I'll definitely speak with my buying power moving forward.

    Not trying to make a scene, but the amount of help the devs have gotten from the players (which has mostly gone ignored) is unacceptable at this point.
    Edited by Dedricus on 7 May 2018 16:07
  • JPcrazysquirrel3
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    I mean, we post and post and post on here about problems in the game. Do they really listen? Do they really even care?

    They really only seem happy to nerf stuff. Not actually fix their game.
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
    "It's just not a home until you decorate the torture chamber, am I right?"
    "If you want to lose 10lbs of ugly fat, I'd be happy to chop your head off!"
    "Degenerates!" --- Todd Howard
    "If it's not broke, don't fix it,....unless you're ZO$ and are just doing it for the money!" --- Me
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Bio:
    I am in a Kevduit video
    PS4 (main platform)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    PC (just for PTS since Dragon Bones)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    Playing since console release in 2015

    17 characters; mainly play PvE tanks and healer, as well as PvP stamDK, magplar, and stamblade; I also have a handful of DPS toons to have variety. All AD, with one, now PvE, DC toon.

    I was on the forums before, but something happened with my account info and I had to create a new account.
  • TrinityBreaker
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    Chufu wrote: »
    All of them.

    RIP StamDK. You will be trash for another 6months.

    He is not trash at all, he is still good, but yeah it's not anymore the ABSOLUTE ROOOOOAAAAAAR.


    Nah homie, stamDK is *** garbage and has been for a god damn long time and you know it.

    Edited by TrinityBreaker on 7 May 2018 16:23
    Ebonheart for life.
    Xbox NA
    I am Dog Star.

    Khajiit Stam Sorc - Ji'saad Ranajiradh AR 30
    Khajiit Mag DK - Kesjhad
    Khajiit Magblade - Ji'sava Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamplar - Dro'haniAk'nir - AR 36
    Khajiit Stam Dk - Diego Ri'jhad - AR 49
    Khajiit Magplar - Dro'nara Ak'nir
    Khajiit StamBlade - Ri'artharr Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamden - Dro'hani Warbreaker
    Argonian Stam DK - Tiberius Demetros
    Khajiit Stamplar - Diëgo Ri'jhad
    Fat Khajiit Stam DK - Drö'hani Ak'nir/Dances-With-Alkosh
    Khajiit Magden - Arctic Mayhem


  • b.bredfeldtub17_ESO
    They really only seem happy to nerf stuff. Not actually fix their game.

    They also seem perfectly happy to introduce more monetized content. I guess they assume players will stick around regardless of the state of balance, so they can focus on other things without losing too many people. Time to prove them wrong.
  • actosh
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    Well, they said it often enough to be honest, BUT around all of my feedback has been heard in the thread "non dk tank and gener nb suggestions".

    Have to admit it almost took them a year to do changes based on feedback there.

    I think feedback is only good, if it fits the basic direction zos wants to move.
  • Valkysas154
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    To many times for me to care any more this is the last ESO any thing i will be buying
    until some major changes happen good thing we will be getting steam summer sale soon
    going to spend all the money i would of used for a good crown sale if we got one ever again

  • Kikke
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    Still, I see no links given.
    Cleared Trials:
    - vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -

    "The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
    -Someone said it, I guess.
  • Sandman929
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    kikkehs wrote: »
    Still, I see no links given.

    I don't know what kind of weirdo would have those on file in the first place.
  • JPcrazysquirrel3
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    actosh wrote: »
    Well, they said it often enough to be honest, BUT around all of my feedback has been heard in the thread "non dk tank and gener nb suggestions".

    Have to admit it almost took them a year to do changes based on feedback there.

    I think feedback is only good, if it fits the basic direction zos wants to move.

    Well, it's like someone on another post reminded me, a while back Zos had a poll to see what we wanted them to do/talk about in their next live stream, either run a dungeon or discuss class balancing. A vast majority of the votes were for the class balancing discussion, I voted for that too,...but instead, Zos ran a dungeon anyways.
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
    "It's just not a home until you decorate the torture chamber, am I right?"
    "If you want to lose 10lbs of ugly fat, I'd be happy to chop your head off!"
    "Degenerates!" --- Todd Howard
    "If it's not broke, don't fix it,....unless you're ZO$ and are just doing it for the money!" --- Me
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Bio:
    I am in a Kevduit video
    PS4 (main platform)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    PC (just for PTS since Dragon Bones)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    Playing since console release in 2015

    17 characters; mainly play PvE tanks and healer, as well as PvP stamDK, magplar, and stamblade; I also have a handful of DPS toons to have variety. All AD, with one, now PvE, DC toon.

    I was on the forums before, but something happened with my account info and I had to create a new account.
  • Waffennacht
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    kikkehs wrote: »
    Still, I see no links given.

    Well, actually, seeing as only Gina really posts, all one has to do is comb through the comments.

    I would but I gotta go to work in just a little bit
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Marabornwingrion
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    Aaaaand someone got banned. Ripperoni :joy:
  • Vaoh
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Aaaaand someone got banned. Ripperoni :joy:

    Wait did he get banned for this thread?? :o
  • JPcrazysquirrel3
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Ripperoni

    "I understand that reference!"
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
    "It's just not a home until you decorate the torture chamber, am I right?"
    "If you want to lose 10lbs of ugly fat, I'd be happy to chop your head off!"
    "Degenerates!" --- Todd Howard
    "If it's not broke, don't fix it,....unless you're ZO$ and are just doing it for the money!" --- Me
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Bio:
    I am in a Kevduit video
    PS4 (main platform)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    PC (just for PTS since Dragon Bones)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    Playing since console release in 2015

    17 characters; mainly play PvE tanks and healer, as well as PvP stamDK, magplar, and stamblade; I also have a handful of DPS toons to have variety. All AD, with one, now PvE, DC toon.

    I was on the forums before, but something happened with my account info and I had to create a new account.
  • Dedricus
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Aaaaand someone got banned. Ripperoni :joy:

    Wait did he get banned for this thread?? :o

    He did. Holy crap lmao.
  • Dreyloch
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    Not seeing anything link wise so far guys =/

    I'm with you all and hope there is some proof. When I read posts in other threads like "For months and months people have been saying this" Keyword there is people. I'd like to see links where actual DEVS have posted this. That there will be balance changes. Now technically, they did make a few changes this PTS, good and bad. But sweeping comprehensive changes hasn't really happen in this game except maybe once? Like a couple years ago?

    "The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"
  • Tryxus
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    Well, that's one way to silence the critics...
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
    Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU
  • JPcrazysquirrel3
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Aaaaand someone got banned. Ripperoni :joy:

    Wait did he get banned for this thread?? :o

    Zos is extra salty. They've been getting a lot of hate the past few days, with the bs crown "sale" and this patch's lack of class balancing, despite saying it was coming with this patch for over a year now.
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
    "It's just not a home until you decorate the torture chamber, am I right?"
    "If you want to lose 10lbs of ugly fat, I'd be happy to chop your head off!"
    "Degenerates!" --- Todd Howard
    "If it's not broke, don't fix it,....unless you're ZO$ and are just doing it for the money!" --- Me
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Bio:
    I am in a Kevduit video
    PS4 (main platform)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    PC (just for PTS since Dragon Bones)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    Playing since console release in 2015

    17 characters; mainly play PvE tanks and healer, as well as PvP stamDK, magplar, and stamblade; I also have a handful of DPS toons to have variety. All AD, with one, now PvE, DC toon.

    I was on the forums before, but something happened with my account info and I had to create a new account.
  • Kilandros
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    Wow, they really banned him for making this?
    Invictus
    Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
    Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
    Sias - Sorcerer / Prefect
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
  • TrinityBreaker
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Aaaaand someone got banned. Ripperoni :joy:

    Wait who got banned and how can you tell?
    Ebonheart for life.
    Xbox NA
    I am Dog Star.

    Khajiit Stam Sorc - Ji'saad Ranajiradh AR 30
    Khajiit Mag DK - Kesjhad
    Khajiit Magblade - Ji'sava Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamplar - Dro'haniAk'nir - AR 36
    Khajiit Stam Dk - Diego Ri'jhad - AR 49
    Khajiit Magplar - Dro'nara Ak'nir
    Khajiit StamBlade - Ri'artharr Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamden - Dro'hani Warbreaker
    Argonian Stam DK - Tiberius Demetros
    Khajiit Stamplar - Diëgo Ri'jhad
    Fat Khajiit Stam DK - Drö'hani Ak'nir/Dances-With-Alkosh
    Khajiit Magden - Arctic Mayhem


  • JPcrazysquirrel3
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    https://imgur.com/k9m3VGP

    *Edited for trying to figure out how I actually got a picture embedded a few days ago, but can't now
    Edited by JPcrazysquirrel3 on 7 May 2018 17:12
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
    "It's just not a home until you decorate the torture chamber, am I right?"
    "If you want to lose 10lbs of ugly fat, I'd be happy to chop your head off!"
    "Degenerates!" --- Todd Howard
    "If it's not broke, don't fix it,....unless you're ZO$ and are just doing it for the money!" --- Me
    Mayrael wrote: »
    Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Bio:
    I am in a Kevduit video
    PS4 (main platform)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    PC (just for PTS since Dragon Bones)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    Playing since console release in 2015

    17 characters; mainly play PvE tanks and healer, as well as PvP stamDK, magplar, and stamblade; I also have a handful of DPS toons to have variety. All AD, with one, now PvE, DC toon.

    I was on the forums before, but something happened with my account info and I had to create a new account.
  • Kilandros
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Aaaaand someone got banned. Ripperoni :joy:

    Wait who got banned and how can you tell?

    Click on the name of the guy who made this thread.
    Invictus
    Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
    Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
    Sias - Sorcerer / Prefect
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
  • Tryxus
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Aaaaand someone got banned. Ripperoni :joy:

    Wait who got banned and how can you tell?

    If the avatar of a poster is the ESO symbol on a white background, you might wanna check his/her profile for a Banned tag
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
    Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Guess what? Combat balance comes next patch (tm). It's like they don't even know how to fix their own mess. Maybe they should stop trying to add more contents into broken game and fix things one by one without adding something that makes combat balance even worse such as new OP sets and blanket nerfing that ends up favoring only one class (usually NB) or one spec. But man, trust In ZOS. The fix is coming next patch! (Tm)
    Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel
  • Sunday_Samurai
    It's pretty lame that there's no class balance update. I hope you hurry it up and get it done within a month or so after Summerset drops.
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