Official Discussion Thread for "Crown Store Showcase – December 2017"

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This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Crown Store Showcase – December 2017. Check out all the new items coming in the month of December with our latest Crown Store Showcase, including a mountainous abode, festive hats, a very merry mount, and the limited-time return of both the Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt Crown Crates.
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  • Tyrion87
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    This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Crown Store Showcase – December 2017. Check out all the new items coming in the month of December with our latest Crown Store Showcase, including a mountainous abode, festive hats, a very merry mount, and the limited-time return of both the Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt Crown Crates.

    So if I want e.g. a Storm Atro Horse, then I still have to gamble for it and even without a possibility to buy it with gems?

    Do I understand it correctly?
    Edited by Tyrion87 on 1 December 2017 15:26
  • Rouven
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    Isn't that a nice horsie? :)
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  • casparian
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Crown Store Showcase – December 2017. Check out all the new items coming in the month of December with our latest Crown Store Showcase, including a mountainous abode, festive hats, a very merry mount, and the limited-time return of both the Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt Crown Crates.

    So if I want e.g. a Storm Atro Horse, then I still have to gamble for it and even without a possibility to buy it with gems?

    Do I understand it correctly?

    You can buy all Storm Atro mounts with gems. They didn't introduce the super-mega-apex or whatever mounts until the Dwarven crates.
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  • Tyrion87
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    casparian wrote: »
    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Crown Store Showcase – December 2017. Check out all the new items coming in the month of December with our latest Crown Store Showcase, including a mountainous abode, festive hats, a very merry mount, and the limited-time return of both the Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt Crown Crates.

    So if I want e.g. a Storm Atro Horse, then I still have to gamble for it and even without a possibility to buy it with gems?

    Do I understand it correctly?

    You can buy all Storm Atro mounts with gems. They didn't introduce the super-mega-apex or whatever mounts until the Dwarven crates.

    So how I should understand this?
    Note that Crown Store currently supports the purchase of items with Crown Gems from the Flame Atronach Crown Crate season. Individual Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt items can only be acquired from their respective crates while on sale.
    Edited by Tyrion87 on 1 December 2017 15:33
  • casparian
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »

    You can buy all Storm Atro mounts with gems. They didn't introduce the super-mega-apex or whatever mounts until the Dwarven crates.

    So how I should understand this?
    Note that Crown Store currently supports the purchase of items with Crown Gems from the Flame Atronach Crown Crate season. Individual Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt items can only be acquired from their respective crates while on sale.

    I didn't see that line; my mistake.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno can you explain why y'all have changed the older crates to no longer support crown gem purchases? That doesn't exactly seem consumer-friendly.
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  • Aeslief
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Crown Store Showcase – December 2017. Check out all the new items coming in the month of December with our latest Crown Store Showcase, including a mountainous abode, festive hats, a very merry mount, and the limited-time return of both the Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt Crown Crates.

    So if I want e.g. a Storm Atro Horse, then I still have to gamble for it and even without a possibility to buy it with gems?

    Do I understand it correctly?

    That’s sure how it looks. I only started playing ESO in June. I was excited about the return of crates I had missed - until I saw that you will still only be able to spend gems on Flame crate contents. It’s too bad too - I was really looking forward to the Flame mounts at first but they don’t seem as detailed or animated as the older ones, more like molded plastic than living elementals.

    Come on, game! Show me something to spend my Sweetroll on!
  • Tyrion87
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    casparian wrote: »
    Tyrion87 wrote: »

    You can buy all Storm Atro mounts with gems. They didn't introduce the super-mega-apex or whatever mounts until the Dwarven crates.

    So how I should understand this?
    Note that Crown Store currently supports the purchase of items with Crown Gems from the Flame Atronach Crown Crate season. Individual Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt items can only be acquired from their respective crates while on sale.

    I didn't see that line; my mistake.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno can you explain why y'all have changed the older crates to no longer support crown gem purchases? That doesn't exactly seem consumer-friendly.

    This predatory system apparently started to rule the crown crates as a whole...

    If gem purchases are not possible and it's pure lottery, then I'll pass. I just can't understand why there are so many awesome items that are no longer available, that now in order to get them you can only gamble for them or hope for good rng (crates, mysterious boxes etc.).
  • sebban
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    casparian wrote: »
    Tyrion87 wrote: »

    You can buy all Storm Atro mounts with gems. They didn't introduce the super-mega-apex or whatever mounts until the Dwarven crates.

    So how I should understand this?
    Note that Crown Store currently supports the purchase of items with Crown Gems from the Flame Atronach Crown Crate season. Individual Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt items can only be acquired from their respective crates while on sale.

    I didn't see that line; my mistake.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno can you explain why y'all have changed the older crates to no longer support crown gem purchases? That doesn't exactly seem consumer-friendly.

    Because they want you to buy more crates. Consumer friendliness has nothing to do with it. Only money.
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  • rhapsodious
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    Note that Crown Store currently supports the purchase of items with Crown Gems from the Flame Atronach Crown Crate season. Individual Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt items can only be acquired from their respective crates while on sale.

    Well that's disappointing.

    The New Life horse looks nice, though. And the purchase window on the Orc mansion is generous. So thanks for those.
  • czar
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    I'm curious to see what the horse looks like in-game. It looks like an new model from the picture, but I'm not 100% sure.
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  • rhapsodious
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    schip wrote: »
    I'm curious to see what the horse looks like in-game. It looks like an new model from the picture, but I'm not 100% sure.

    It looks like the skinnier horse model that the Mindshriven Horse uses.
  • LadyAstrum
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    Now we're talking. I like the horse and hats, but no nice New Life outfits?
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  • TheNuminous1
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Now we're talking. I like the horse and hats, but no nice New Life outfits?

    you get a bathing suit! and you'll like it!
  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    What about the Elk from last year? I really wanted to buy it this year? :( And no, I don't want to gamble for it! I just want to pay money.
  • Darkstorne
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno You're selling old crates AGAIN!? You realize you had a chance to regain some love with your community (that massively opposes crown crates, probably by 90%+) by using this "festive" time to sell old crown crate items directly on the store, right? Especially now that we know you're committing to another year of crown crates, so this disgusting business practice is going to frustrate your players for a long time yet.

    PLEASE consider selling old crown crate items directly soon. Maybe to mark each crate's one year anniversary? So when the next crate season starts, also sell Atronach items directly on the store around the same time. I know you won't want to do that on exactly the same day, but definitely try doing it during the same crate season. The vast majority of your players aren't idiots, and we know you guys at ZOS aren't either. We all know crates are a disgusting practice, and we know you guys don't have any ability to cut them out of the game altogether. But you should be able to talk some sense into the powers-that-be and sell crate items directly on the store when they're a year old.
    Edited by Darkstorne on 1 December 2017 17:37
  • JKorr
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    I really hope they redo that page, and make the notice regarding "use of gems for purchases will only be possible for current flame atronach crate contents" much, much larger. And a different color. Underlined. Possibly also flashing.

    People were assured the gems would carry over from one season to another. Updating information to reflect that gems can only be used for current/active crown crate season items would be a good idea. Before the rants/raging/threats of lawsuits start to appear..... @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • Acrolas
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    I do kind of wish one of the broadrim hats were completely plain, but I still really like the set.

    And I've warmed up to the New Life caps since last year so I'm glad I can pick one of those up.

    But the real burning question is certainly, @ZOS_GinaBruno Do the bells on the Dapple Gray jingle?
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  • laereal
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    Super depressed about this. :( Was hoping to get specific items from the storm atronach crates, but I really can't afford getting the crates until i get what I want this time around. Please consider putting up gem purchasable items from the corresponding crates. Maybe implement some sort of token system to indicate that your account purchased the crates during the available time period and just have it disappear afterwards.
    Edited by laereal on 1 December 2017 18:09
  • Liley
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    Old crown crates + a lot of old stuff that they sold last december. kinda disappointed.
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  • MornaBaine
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    schip wrote: »
    I'm curious to see what the horse looks like in-game. It looks like an new model from the picture, but I'm not 100% sure.

    I am hoping this is the case because forever I have been hoping for an entirely NEW horse model... made by an artist that has perhaps actually SEEN a horse at some point in their life. Unlike whoever created the current ones. But even if it is...I don't want a holiday theme horsie. I just....want a new REALISTIC horse mount. I'd love to see special horse mounts with CULTURAL tack. But not holiday tack.

    And is it just me or are the showcases getting more and more underwhelming and with less and less to offer? Thre's SO MUCH that has been datamined but at current rates of release I'll be ready to retire before I've seen most of it actually hit the CS. And there's still a ton of existing costumes and pets and skins and polymorphs that people have repeatedly requested that already exist in the game that aren't being done!

    I'm just... really disappointed. Again.
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  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    You guys are just absurdly greedy. It literally disgusts me.
  • Elsonso
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    Liley wrote: »
    Old crown crates + a lot of old stuff that they sold last december. kinda disappointed.

    Yeah, there really isn't much of anything there. Were we spoiled by the rapid fire stuff they rolled out a couple months back? At least people don't has as much of a need for a Crown Sale this month, right?

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  • anadandy
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    I do kind of wish one of the broadrim hats were completely plain

    Ditto - it would be an insta-buy if there was a plain one.

  • Valor
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    At least the house isn't a four day sale this time, maybe I'll actually have the money saved to buy it this time. *cough* crown sale...

    Good selection of items too, I actually really like that winter horse.
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  • Orticia
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    Would not have minded buying a crate or 2 if the items in them also could be gotten with gems... gamble for something cool/gem expensive, buy some "cheaper" gem items from gems I have/get. But seeing it's all gamble and the return without gem purchase does not allow me to get a few wanted items for sure, not even the cheaper ones i have gems for... I am not gonna bother at all. Not getting anything I want but have a just a couple of items staring at me i didn't want is more frustrating to me then not having any at all, and thus making the comeback of them feel just frustrating. Gem purchases at least make it so you can always get something you want (even if overpriced when out of luck).

    I wonder if this is just because they think this will push more crown crate sales, or if the store does not allow for 3 full crate seasons to be shown as separate buys. Time will tell if the store shows previews from the crate items or not. If everything can be previewed store limitation doesn't seem the reason.
    Edited by Orticia on 1 December 2017 19:22
  • dotme
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    Crown sale please :smiley:
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  • Left4Daud
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    I wonder if they thought about adding new Radiant Apex mounts to these two seasons but just haven't mentioned it yet. I can't imagine how much people would spend to gamble on getting a Radiant Storm Atronach/Wild Hunt mount especially with the added pressure of being so limited in availability.
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    Underwhelming if you ask me. The horse mount looks nice but I wouldn't use that mount all year long 'cuz of the ornaments so meh.

    Also, am I the only one who was hoping to see a house like this in the showcase?
    DOXzBUfUIAAAmcL.jpg:large

    Instead, they have a huge open area(Pariah's Pinacle) that will look half empty with the item limit and brought back old crown crates and hats.

    Edited by Leogon on 1 December 2017 20:32
  • Abeille
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    Any chance the horse's garland can be removed? Like you can hide the saddlebags and armor other mounts have? It's cute during this time of the year, alright, but the horse itself looks beautiful and I would prefer to be able to have it as a mount all year round without looking like one of those obnoxious neighbors that never take down their festive decorations, you know?
    Edited by Abeille on 1 December 2017 20:27
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

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    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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  • Ilsabet
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    I do kind of wish one of the broadrim hats were completely plain, but I still really like the set.

    We can hope that a plain version will be among the new runebox rewards from the in-game festival.
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