Dueling Courtesy?

generalmyrick

why do duels have rules or "gentlemen's agreement" not to do certain things? I have heard this in chats all the time as i run to get my undaunted pledges...."dude, wtf, you used [insert op ability/potion/armor]?!"

i thought;
a duel is a fight between 2 people. 3-2-1, FIGHT, the winner is the last one alive?

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

It is but everyone knows that duellers are "salty" players just looking to cause an argument whenever possible.

Also every ability is OP if it leads to their defeat.

IlCanis_LupuslI

things that are considered not very gentlemen like are: resource poisons, viper, selene, velindreth, soul assault, Eye of the Storm just to name a few. Things that are knowingly overperforming that would give you a clear advantage in a duell. But duells are bs anyway you can set your cp for example to make you very effective against sorcs and only duell sorcs for that day giving you a clear advantage to someone who has a overland pvp build who has to take magic and physical damage and has his cp set for that. Thats why i dont duell.

DRXHarbinger

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

It is but everyone knows that duelers are "salty" players just looking to cause an argument whenever possible.

Also every ability is OP if it leads to their defeat.

knowsit.

Scrub1 "Duel me bruh"...Scrub 2 kills with light attacks...Scrub 1 "Bruh you *** mong you a hacker, reported"

IlCanis_LupuslI

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

It is but everyone knows that duellers are "salty" players just looking to cause an argument whenever possible.

Also every ability is OP if it leads to their defeat.

Werwolf OP, Draining Shot op lmao thats a few things i heard a few months ago

Beardimus

Its just BS. Duel's have no rules - thus...there are no rules.

If you want rules setup a competition and mention them before.

Tryxus

All is fair in love and war

Takes-No-Prisoner

generalmyrick wrote: »

why do duels have rules or "gentlemen's agreement" not to do certain things? I have heard this in chats all the time as i run to get my undaunted pledges...."dude, wtf, you used [insert op ability/potion/armor]?!"

i thought;
a duel is a fight between 2 people. 3-2-1, FIGHT, the winner is the last one alive?

If buddies want to make up dumb rules just for giggles, it's on them. If it's some random doing it because he's insecure about his build, he should probably be slapped.

Tan9oSuccka

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

things that are considered not very gentlemen like are: resource poisons, viper, selene, velindreth, soul assault, Eye of the Storm just to name a few. Things that are knowingly overperforming that would give you a clear advantage in a duell. But duells are bs anyway you can set your cp for example to make you very effective against sorcs and only duell sorcs for that day giving you a clear advantage to someone who has a overland pvp build who has to take magic and physical damage and has his cp set for that. Thats why i dont duell.

"Duel me brah!!

No, no. Not that way!! No, no. Not that way either!!!

Hax bruh!!"
-SmokeNToke420

I'm afraid unwritten (and frankly absurd) "Gentleman" rules and guys like SmokeNToke don't go together.

Reverb

I think the only "hard rule" should apply to bystanders: don't heal duelers. Don't stand around while people are dueling throwing out BOL or aoe heals.

Between the 2 people dueling, negotiate terms beforehand, or anything goes. Unless agreed upon in advance, there are no cheap tactics or cheap counters.

Thogard

Usually the only rules in dueling among high end players (I.E. outside the stormhaven undaunted enclave) is
1. No resource cost poison
2. No immov pots


These are rules because they are both available to everyone and are equally effective for everyone. Therefore, if one person used them, the other person would too and neither player would be happy about it.

And immov pots can get expensive...

bloodthirstyvampire

I just go along with their demands then when the fight starts I go against them just so I can hear them cry I love it when they cry

apostate9

generalmyrick wrote: »

why do duels have rules or "gentlemen's agreement" not to do certain things? I have heard this in chats all the time as i run to get my undaunted pledges...."dude, wtf, you used [insert op ability/potion/armor]?!"

i thought;
a duel is a fight between 2 people. 3-2-1, FIGHT, the winner is the last one alive?

Yep. Two men enter...one man leaves. Know if you duel me I will use defensive ults, cost poisons and throw sand in your eyes. Anything less is pure scrubbery. Don't wanna face certain gear setups/ults/skills? Don't duel. PvP might not be for you.

:-)

supaskrub

I have dueling turned off, I would however pay good money to ZOS for an emote to replace "Duel invitation declined" with a nice flip of the bird gesture or a kiss my ass kind of thing..

Sigtric

The only dueling courtesy I want is for duelers to gtfo of the populated areas and stop being annoying.

Feanor

No Meridia's Blessed Armour. No poisons. Empty your ult before the duel starts. These are 3 good rules for a better fight.

apostate9

Sigtric wrote: »

The only dueling courtesy I want is for duelers to gtfo of the populated areas and stop being annoying.

I just wish all the robot-slayers and IRL furries would GTFO of the towns with their pink text sexy-talk so the duelers could fight in peace.

OC_Justice

Sigtric wrote: »

The only dueling courtesy I want is for duelers to gtfo of the populated areas and stop being annoying.

Is there a way to turn off duel requests? Lotro had this, don't know if there is an option. I enjoy watching some fights, but don't appreciate the requests. Twice I have accepted thinking it was the dungeon que. Funny thing is I disappeared seconds after the fight started.

Pastas

Certain magsorc told me that using my ultimate (ballista) in the beggining wasn't allowed by the dueling courtesy rules.

Droping his mines before the duel starts was completely correct for him, of course.

Still laughing.

doslekis

Reverb wrote: »

I think the only "hard rule" should apply to bystanders: don't heal duelers. Don't stand around while people are dueling throwing out BOL or aoe heals.

Between the 2 people dueling, negotiate terms beforehand, or anything goes. Unless agreed upon in advance, there are no cheap tactics or cheap counters.

Hmm I didn't think you could heal or buff people who were dueling. Would be funny if each person had a designated healer for the fight.

AlienatedGoat

supaskrub wrote: »

I have dueling turned off, I would however pay good money to ZOS for an emote to replace "Duel invitation declined" with a nice flip of the bird gesture or a kiss my ass kind of thing..

I keep the /kissthis emote on quickslot specifically for this (the one from morrowind collectors edition).

Tan9oSuccka

apostate9 wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

The only dueling courtesy I want is for duelers to gtfo of the populated areas and stop being annoying.

I just wish all the robot-slayers and IRL furries would GTFO of the towns with their pink text sexy-talk so the duelers could fight in peace.

Nah. Duelers in high traffic areas are a blight and a nuisance.

Go somewhere else to showcase your e-peen.

Cadbury

As long as you fight like manly men, nothing else matters.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Dueling Courtesy? No such thing. You fight to win. Period.

GreenhaloX

Code of conducts for dueling in ESO.. yeah, good luck on that. Ha ha. However, I like the.. "Oh, you beat me cause you use your shield!" or "You won cause you used your ultimate," or healing. Ha ha. What's next? "Oh, you won cause you use food," perhaps?

Coilbox

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

things that are considered not very gentlemen like are: resource poisons, viper, selene, velindreth, soul assault, Eye of the Storm just to name a few. Things that are knowingly overperforming that would give you a clear advantage in a duell. But duells are bs anyway you can set your cp for example to make you very effective against sorcs and only duell sorcs for that day giving you a clear advantage to someone who has a overland pvp build who has to take magic and physical damage and has his cp set for that. Thats why i dont duell.

This is the summum of 'obviousness'

First, nothing that you could use in your build is giving 'you' a clear advantage over your opponent, since your opponent can slot it as well and use it against you. It's about using the tools you feel comfortable with, that are available for EVERY player out there. So there is no real 'clear' advantage.

Second, and more obvious, isnt the point of a duel to find your advantage over the other player to end up killing him/her?

Im sorry but if im going to duel, im gonna use every resources at hand to try to put down my enemy, that includes poisons, nasty ultimates, nasty skills and everything i can throw at him. It's not cheating, it's not unfair, and its nothing to see with 'fighting with honor'. You fight for winning, be clever and use all your resources. They put them there for you to use. Don't listen to silly salty players xD

Drummerx04

Coilbox wrote: »

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

things that are considered not very gentlemen like are: resource poisons, viper, selene, velindreth, soul assault, Eye of the Storm just to name a few. Things that are knowingly overperforming that would give you a clear advantage in a duell. But duells are bs anyway you can set your cp for example to make you very effective against sorcs and only duell sorcs for that day giving you a clear advantage to someone who has a overland pvp build who has to take magic and physical damage and has his cp set for that. Thats why i dont duell.

This is the summum of 'obviousness'

First, nothing that you could use in your build is giving 'you' a clear advantage over your opponent, since your opponent can slot it as well and use it against you. It's about using the tools you feel comfortable with, that are available for EVERY player out there. So there is no real 'clear' advantage.

Second, and more obvious, isnt the point of a duel to find your advantage over the other player to end up killing him/her?

Im sorry but if im going to duel, im gonna use every resources at hand to try to put down my enemy, that includes poisons, nasty ultimates, nasty skills and everything i can throw at him. It's not cheating, it's not unfair, and its nothing to see with 'fighting with honor'. You fight for winning, be clever and use all your resources. They put them there for you to use. Don't listen to silly salty players xD

Pretty sure if you slot shield breaker on a stam toon while fighting a magsorc, you are giving yourself a clear advantage by definition.

FloppyTouch

Pastas wrote: »

Certain magsorc told me that using my ultimate (ballista) in the beggining wasn't allowed by the dueling courtesy rules.

Droping his mines before the duel starts was completely correct for him, of course.

Still laughing.

And ofc you can also call mines kiting and that's another big no no in duels. It kills me all these rules it's almost as if you just need to stand there and let them win for it to me fair.

If you ask me to duel I'm dropping ults using poisons popping immovable pots then running off laughing as you tell me everything I did wrong

Tandor

Keep going with all the forbidden tactics. I have no interest whatsoever in PvP of any kind but I might just consider opening up my invitations if I know all the things that will *** off the epeen-obsessed prepubescent who invites me the moment I pass a wayshrine !

SirMewser

If it weren't for the silly personalities, I wouldn't think they were so cute.

"Dude, stop using [ability]!" (because I die every time)
"How are you healing that fast?" (I never heal myself)
"Sorcerer's mines are stupid..." (I don't go around them or fight ranged)
"Shield stacking is stupid..." (I only use bow light attacks)
"NBs invisibility/evasion is OP" (I don't use AoEs/DoTs and I idle till I see my opponent)
"DKs have too much defence" (I didn't know I was fighting a tank)
"Templars can burst heal and (rapid/execute) damage!" (ya I suck against them too! )

I see no problem!

ArchMikem

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

things that are considered not very gentlemen like are: resource poisons, viper, selene, velindreth, soul assault, Eye of the Storm just to name a few. Things that are knowingly overperforming that would give you a clear advantage in a duell. But duells are bs anyway you can set your cp for example to make you very effective against sorcs and only duell sorcs for that day giving you a clear advantage to someone who has a overland pvp build who has to take magic and physical damage and has his cp set for that. Thats why i dont duell.

"Duel me brah!!

No, no. Not that way!! No, no. Not that way either!!!

Hax bruh!!"
-SmokeNToke420

I'm afraid unwritten (and frankly absurd) "Gentleman" rules and guys like SmokeNToke don't go together.

Did you just name and shame or is that a random name as an example?