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2H 2 set piece

  • Betheny
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    Royaji wrote: »
    2H weapons gives you one set bonus. Because it is one item. One is not two. Simple as that.

    Then one weapon shouldn't take up two slots, according to your logic.

    Guess we need another item for that freed up slot then. What do we want people?
  • STEVIL
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    Arundo wrote: »
    STEVIL wrote: »

    key point is this, the set bonus is a piece of the puzzle but even if that is eauallized and you equalize the wpndmg unless you keep going to equalize the skills (ie all the same) it still wont be the consequence-free choice you are conjuring any way you want to have meant.

    me, i want my choices to matter and so... i like having different weapons do different things and not be exactly the same.

    Because you added this I will respond once more. The skills of your weapons. class, etc should be the variations you can make . It should not be because the heavy attack on one weapon hits harder then on another because of the current setbonus lacking on 2H.

    You want choice, I too want it too be able to use any weapon and not have to use a certain weapon because otherwise I'm not valid in PVE and PVP.
    re thr bold... based on what?

    On what do you base the conclusion that weapon damage and set bonuses should be immutable constants?

    Was this carved on stone tablets, spoken by incendiary ferns, what? Was it right after the same in-fern-o said havingbine take more to uograde was fine?

    And if you somehow believe that changing set counts and base attack will change the preferences of one over the other for pvp burst vs pve g/t sustain dps you should really look more closely.


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  • Arundo
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    STEVIL wrote: »

    Was this carved on stone tablets, spoken by incendiary ferns, what? Was it right after the same in-fern-o said havingbine take more to uograde was fine?

    No no my cat told me.
  • BossXV
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    Shadzilla wrote: »
    BossXV wrote: »
    Have the devs said ANYTHING, regarding this recently

    It only would give us more builds

    I duel wield a lot okay, but I would like more viable ,2H builds

    Magicka toons (staves) are already BIS for PVE, and pretty much always have been. Furthering that gap from stamina dw toons is just dumb. 2H + bow along with magicka staff toons in PVP do very well as they are currently, not interested in making them any better tbh.

    In light of how heated this has become, thank you for politely disagreeing. Perhaps some more balancing is needed than just 2H set pieces
  • BossXV
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    mcb123 wrote: »
    BossXV wrote: »
    Have the devs said ANYTHING, regarding this recently

    It only would give us more builds

    I duel wield a lot okay, but I would like more viable ,2H builds

    I think maybe 2h stam weapons but not staves. If staves classedas 2 slots iy would be far too op

    Just in my opinion, but perhaps staves need a nerf, and than a buff with the set piece so that they are not light years ahead,

    Edited by BossXV on 16 June 2017 15:40
  • BossXV
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    I do beleive 2H 2 set pieces would give more variety, but I do understand in some instances this may become over buffed, such as with staves

    This is doable but would require more reworking than simply adding a set bonus to 2H
  • Sigtric
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    Arundo wrote: »
    STEVIL wrote: »

    key point is this, the set bonus is a piece of the puzzle but even if that is eauallized and you equalize the wpndmg unless you keep going to equalize the skills (ie all the same) it still wont be the consequence-free choice you are conjuring any way you want to have meant.

    me, i want my choices to matter and so... i like having different weapons do different things and not be exactly the same.

    Because you added this I will respond once more. The skills of your weapons. class, etc should be the variations you can make . It should not be because the heavy attack on one weapon hits harder then on another because of the current setbonus lacking on 2H.

    You want choice, I too want it too be able to use any weapon and not have to use a certain weapon because otherwise I'm not valid in PVE and PVP.

    lolwat

    Destruction staves are valid in both PVP and PVE. They are extremely strong.

    And before you argue about 2h being weak in PVE, it's nothing to do with set bonuses and everything to do with the slow, mostly single target centered ability set. Suddenly getting a second 5 set bonus wont change this.

    DW and 1h/S both have very valid uses in both environments as well.

    Pass the skooma plx.
    Edited by Sigtric on 16 June 2017 15:51

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  • Phica_Lovic
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    smokey13a wrote: »
    phbell wrote: »
    This has been a topic for a long time. Those that DW and S&B want it stay the way it is - probably for the added set piece it gives them. Dual-wielder and Sword/board players can run 2 full sets and as well as a 2 piece monster set. This is a clear and unfair advantage over staff and 2h players, especially when 3 proc sets can be run simultaneously.

    I truly hope that ZOS gets around to setting this right.

    your argument holds no real weight though, I mean yes you can have the extra slot on DW and S&B but just as 1 example mag dps using staffs is the highest in the game so giving them an extra slot would make them even more powerful and make the game more unbalanced, I would give a more detailed answer but I cant really be bothered as its all been said in the numerous other discussions about this.

    I also have chars with all weapon types and it should stay the way it is.


    >your argument holds no real weight though

    >I would give a more detailed answer but I cant really be bothered as its all been said in the numerous other discussions about this.


    lol. Sounds legit with evidence. We'll just say he's right and give him the interwebz crown.
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